VN Ren'Py Abandoned Project SAGE [Act 1 v0.19d] [Paperwork]

[fjabbegreven]

Ehm you kinda make me hope he restarts - just imagine Project Sage v2, where it improved just as much heck even half as much, it would be insane.

Kinda curious where it's all leading, but honestly my favourite part is the budding corruption...

 

[Myster_E]

This is the reboot and its great. I wouldn't want Paperwork to restart again and i don't think he needs to.

 

[Kaidman]

I've played both versions the original had a character development issue where she went from zero to a hundred in a single instance which made the corruption point feel sporadic this new version is a slow burn but is exciting in the subtlety where the main character feels like a more real character than the previous version of her was and from hearing from the creator you could tell they really enjoyed making this story and that means the world when it comes to writing stories

 

[jinxpowpow69]

Dont know what u mean. i sign in and nothing happens. just see his site. but nothing to see there.

after signing up, go to settings and click the "r-18" - show button on

 

[meanguy]

I think the new version is way better than the previous one. Amy was open. Wide open. Too open. With everyone, everywhere, every hole. There was no slow burn at all and the MC easily turned into a cheap fuckslut in no time.
The Amy of this second version is a young girl exploring her sexuality, making decisions, teasing, doing something crazy, regretting it, doing it again...
She has a personality, an adorable one, a personality you get to love and connect to. The previous version was OK for a quick fap but got ultimately quite predictable and boring.
My two cents.

 

[defd©™]

After playing the old abandoned version: This was a game with unique story in the first release that was abandoned.
now is a more like a normal corruption story... (I have started with the 19b release and I try the okd version just a few days ago and this is my opinion after that)
in porno game I like to see girls that love have sex because in the real life this is impossible or very rare.
so many of you want a story that reflect the reality???
Fortunately the world is beautiful because there are different opinions and freedom of expression is always respectable to me.

I have read a lot of moralistic justifications about the new version (non-sense and so) but the story is totally different now, AMY is different
Amy was a girl that like to have sex without losing her Virginity... so a little adorable Anal Whore" fantastic story line with a lot of sense

The butt plug comes with more non-sense than the anal gangbang in the start of the old version to me.

... I can understand why ... obviously my personal taste about how a porn game should be is not the same as others ...I like to play with women who like to have sex and are not ashamed for it.
My opinion is that the reboot could solve the corruption score problem without completely changing the sense of the story and the MC ... and then the young girls are the only ones who can do what Amy does in the old game where the story makes a lot of sense for me. and it is more spontaneous and original than this.

I suspect there was a poll in his patreon where donors have been suggesting how to change Amy and the story... and I think this caused a detachment from what was spontaneously the story that Paperwork wanted to tell ... now the game is beautiful but much more like others ... and I think there are still a lot of non-sense in the new story and Amy is still a lot open because this was the story

The spontaneity and originality have been lost but I really hope that Paperwork will back to the original story soon without any reboot... just go forward by back to the original Story.

This would be my suggestion to him at the time of the Poll.
Correct the corruption point issue and go forward to the story without changing nothing (maybe he can still do this)


my question is
there was a poll about that reboot?

Just my two cents

 

[Myster_E]

So i checked Paperwork's Patreon and it looks like there was a poll about character progression but not about a reboot. Looks like Paperwork noticed the game was too linear and didnt have any character progression and wanted there to be more variety. Where Amy can be more open in some situation (poker/home) and conservative in others (School/work). The poll vote that won was " Different stages for different kind of events are a good idea". If anyone else is a patreon is super easy to find, just sort oldest to newest.

A next update Paperwork mentions that he noticed he made very bad mistakes regarding plot (wasting Hank and Matt) and that he could start his actual intended plot. "The game, as it is now, has come to a point where I can not move to my original plot any more. It will feel very superficial and people (including most probably you too) won't believe it. The name of the game, projectSAGE, was intentional and it was about the MC's past and future" Paperwork went on to say it was very difficult to write some scenes in general because Amy has gone too far with alot of characters already.

Hope this helps. Honestly i think PW made the right decision and it looks like alot of people on here and patreon agree with it.

 

[defd©™]

So i checked Paperwork's Patreon and it looks like there was a poll about character progression.

Thanks for let me know
I think my opinion is near to be true
Reboot a game is always not a good idea and the bad mistakes about the Matt is a prove that I'm in the right "path"

He has lost the will to continue ... because for an artist to admit his serious mistakes is like saying that he has lost something in which he himself no longer believes...
I think the first spontaneous inspiration is always the best for an artist
the enthusiasm is the only thing required to continue in an artistic project and
the poll may be the cause that made him lose his enthusiasm and the desire to continue the story.

I hope he can back to work to the great 17a version by correct the corruption progression.
The MC is more credible in the old version...

In any case I suggest to PaperWork to continue without care too much about the poll result... usually the winner option in a poll is not the best for the creativity.
the polls are made only to understand about what people think... but it is wrong to give the power to change the original inspiration of the story.

 

[minmax]

ban this heretic
otherwise, from its bad taste, it becomes bad
it makes a perfect replayable game, not a one-time game

 

[Kaidman]

Thanks for let me know
I think my opinion is near to be true
Reboot a game is always not a good idea and the bad mistakes about the Matt is a prove that I'm in the right "path"

He has lost the will to continue ... because for an artist to admit his serious mistakes is like saying that he has lost something in which he himself no longer believes...
I think the first spontaneous inspiration is always the best for an artist
the enthusiasm is the only thing required to continue in an artistic project and
the poll may be the cause that made him lose his enthusiasm and the desire to continue the story.

I hope he can back to work to the great 17a version by correct the corruption progression.
The MC is more credible in the old version...

In any case I suggest to PaperWork to continue without care too much about the poll result... usually the winner option in a poll is not the best for the creativity.
the polls are made only to understand about what people think... but it is wrong to give the power to change the original inspiration of the story.

ok I'm going to explain this because you're kind of missing the point in the first game she was supposed to be a virgin and one of the first things she does when she encounters the police on the beach is give them a blowjob which was nice to cut to the chase but ultimately it made it so you pretty much dead ended any future encounters with those other characters and also made it seem unrealistic in her other encounters with people she was closer to than the cops when she doesn't do anything with said people like if she was so quick to do that why does she hesitate with people she knows well then we had another scene where she has anal sex on top of a car these kinds of escalations hurt the flow of character growth and made her seem more like a bot than the character the creator was developing and made the game feel like the kind you skim past the story until you hit sex scenes and that is not the kind of story paperwork would want to make

 

[Myster_E]

defd I dont want to be rude, because i think everyone is entitled to their opinion but I'm begining to think you are delusional. I personally don't know why you think the original was 'unique' and the reboot isn't. I could go over points but i think your eyes just glaze over anything that doesn't agree with you.

In the end it was Paperwork who decided to reboot not anyone else. Why? because he was no longer able to do the story HE wanted. I dont know where you're coming up with the idea that he lost the will to continue. like, WHAT?!! You dont tell Picasso how to paint, you just let him paint. This reboot is what Paperwork is painting, just drop the original bit and let the man do this thing.

If you want a nonsense fuckfest with no depth or character just go to the Latest Updates page and sort by low rating. you'll fined countless ones.

 

[defd©™]

defd I dont want to be rude, because i think everyone is entitled to their opinion but I'm begging to think you are delusional. I personally don't know why you think the original was 'unique' and the reboot isn't. I could go over points but i think your eyes just glaze over anything that doesn't agree with you.

In the end it was Paperwork who decided to reboot not anyone else. Why? because he was no longer able to do the story HE wanted. I dont know where you're coming up with the idea that he lost the will to continue. like, WHAT?!! You dont tell Picasso how to paint, you just let him paint. This reboot is what Paperwork is painting, just drop the original bit and let the man do this thing.

If you want a nonsense fuckfest with no depth or character just go to the Latest Updates page and sort by low rating. you'll fined countless ones.

Why you want to be rude with me?
there somthing strange are you angry with me?

just my opinion and I'm not alone in this so why you want repeat your point?

PW was unexperienced and young artist
I have replay to you without repetition

I just explain my point of view and there are a lot of evidences that I'm in the right plot about the reboot of this game

Also PW said about mistakes in the reboot... that are not in the Original Version

he just follow the Poll and the coplains of his patreons... he have lost a lot of patreons doing this...
there are a lot of games that was very near to be abandoned by this way Like Katie Corruption that comes with a great story
fortunatel Katie that is in my favourite list of game was completed
I'm always with the artists because the crowd is always envious of the success of others

the original game is better for me.
and i have to thank you about the answer to my question about poll in PW patreon page

 

[Myster_E]

I'm not trying to be rude.You can say the original is better. I can disagree. But how can you honestly say you're right about things like plot and the creators will to continue when the Creator HIMSELF wanted to reboot that game because he didn't like how he plotted the first game?!?!?! Im a Patron i see all the polls. No where did anyone tell him to reboot. Paperwork asked the patrons to bare with him as HE wanted to reboot it.

Regarding lost patrons, that because he was silent for a long time. During that time he was dealing with personal issues due to the Covid Virus. He had a horrible thing happen to him and i'm glad he took that time for himself. Im overjoyed he's back but Patron left because they did not hear from him for like 4 months. They didn't leave because of the direction the game was taking. If anything he had a bunch of people because they enjoyed the new direction on the game.

 

[Holysix9]

I was thinking that the 17a was the same as this version... but after playing!

I hope PaperWork will be back to the Original inspirational story of the game because I'm afraid that his decision about reboot the full game was caused by the complaining of the donors.
sometimes the complaints of donors can kill the creativity of an artist
The 17a was abandoned in a time where ther was no covid problem

I think that when he will be back to this game will be also back to the original inspiration of the story that is in the 17a and was lost in the new rebooted version

I'm starting to play the 17a abandoned version. Only today I see there 2 version of the same game,
very interesting

 

[claymorez]

I think the remake is to let you love Amy.
And the first version is to ... let you do what you need to do ...

 

[meanguy]

I think the remake is to let you love Amy.
And the first version is to ... let you do what you need to do ...

You have a point here

 

[meanguy]

The reboot is the best thing that could happen to this game. If it was because of a poll, then God bless the poll. I think though that for all the effort Paperwork put into re-designing the plot, it must be something that he had in his heart as well. Amy is simply perfect now, this is the game that kept me checking for updates and had me play all the different routes. Version 17 was just another game about a virgin that turns into a nympho for no apparent reason.
Besides, defd you are entitled to your opinion, but to brand people that disagree as "moralistic non-sense" does not encourage them to be particularly soft in their reply, just sayin'.
There is nothing moralistic in hoping that the MC of a game shows some internal consistency, it's what we look for in novels, movies and, why not? porn games.

 

[minmax]

they are envious, PW don't listen to them, they want to degrade your content. even after all the hardships, they want to passively aggressively ruin everything, but of course you have the last word

 

[ray3dave]

I think everyone made his or her point clear enough and more than once. Let's just wait what Paperwork will bring up. In general most people posting here seem to agree that we love his work.

 

[Deleted member 1157790]

for me the older vrsion was better about sex scenes and the same about the story...
there are scenes in the subway that comes with no sex and no sense in this version...
and now the game was near to be abandoned... mmm,,,
I'm not sure that Paperwork like this game even he reboot. The 17a is a great peace of ART.
The spontaneity of the 17a version seems to be lost (I'm afraid)... because publishing something, then repenting is not the best way ... I hope this was not caused by the patreons ... sometimes the complaints of donors can kill the creativity of an artist

I love this game and I hope that the dev will be back to the original enthusiasm and to the ORIGINAL STORY of which the old version is full.

I wish all the best for PaperWork

This is almost certainly a minority opinion. The current version (while lacking sexual content - it's a slow burn game and I'm sure PW will get there), is so much better from a story perspective; Amy's actions are way better motivated, which infuses a sense of realism. Personally, I hate when the character either turns into a turbo slut for no discernible reason or doesn't give you a choice in the matter. PW certainly made the right decision rebooting it.