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I'm really hoping that the MC doesn't mindbreak poor Roxanna, she is a little sweety

I also echo the earlier sentiments that I really hope we get a bit of backstory on Aika. I want to see how MC and her's relationship got started and if she seduced him or her corrupted her? Either way would be fun! And I really hope we get her for the new company, I need an adorable stockings clad sexretary in my life.
Roxana is bae.

And Aika needs to stop talking with her mouth full. It's just rude lol
 

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You can finish the game without having sex at all (except for the hospital scene and flashback scenes).
Don't get me wrong, I hope we absolutely fuck Roxanna, I just hope we don't end up breaking her poor little mind to do it. As forcing her/raping her would make me feel like shit.

Would absolutely romance/impregnate the hell outta her though. <3

Roxana is bae.

And Aika needs to stop talking with her mouth full. It's just rude lol
Absolutely, girl needs to be taught proper manners, looks like we still need to break Aika in more :D
 

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Don't get me wrong, I hope we absolutely fuck Roxanna, I just hope we don't end up breaking her poor little mind to do it. As forcing her/raping her would make me feel like shit.

Would absolutely romance/impregnate the hell outta her though. <3



Absolutely, girl needs to be taught proper manners, looks like we still need to break Aika in more :D
I'll agree with you there, although I would say that for all the girls unless shown to be pieces of shit, then I'm not against some breaking.
 

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Just play the game, it was NTR only when really streching the definition and the dev changed the scene (listening to users more than any other dev I've seen)... The story is good worth the try :)

Edit not sure if 3.1 has the updated scene though the way the dev talked about it, it should be enough to make the scene playable not just skip the content which is effort i can only respect. Most devs just add a disclaimer and a way to skip

Edit2 : Just checked, the scene has not been updated yet (unless i fucked up somewhere)
NTR like beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some will consider any woman in the game having sex with another man as NTR. Some will consider any potential LI having sex with another man as NTR. My point which seems to be missed is that any NTR-ish content will cost the developer money. It also sounds from some of the content that the story may contain some type of abuse. If it does and it happens to a woman or a child, that will also have a significant impact on the story's earning potential. I am making no comment about the quality of the story. I have not played it. I am only commenting on some plot elements that can detract from a story's ability to make money. The comments from this group seem to indicate that this story contains one of those elements, I could be wrong. I am just suggesting that if it does; it might explain, at least in part, why this game is on episode three and only has 22 patrons.
 
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NTR like beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some will consider any woman in the game having sex with another man as NTR. Some will consider any potential LI having sex with another man as NTR. My point which seems to be missed is that any
NTR-ish content will cost the developer money. It also sounds from some of the content that the story may contain some type of abuse. If it does and it happens to a woman or a child, that will also have a significant impact on the story's earning potential. I am making no comment about the quality of the story. I have not played it. I am only commenting on some plot elements that can detract from a story's ability to make money. The comments from this group seem to indicate that this story contains one of those elements, I could be wrong. I am just suggesting that if it does; it might explain, at least in part, why this game is on episode three and only has 22 patrons.
Why are you commenting without playing the game? And most of what we are talking about are hypotheticals at the moment.

Also, I'll have to check the NTR games to see if your argument holds water, but the abuse one doesn't look at ecchi sensei that with the patch has rape or the Trainer games or mind control ones, there are plenty that make loads of money.
 

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NTR like beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some will consider any woman in the game having sex with another man as NTR. Some will consider any potential LI having sex with another man as NTR. My point which seems to be missed is that any
NTR-ish content will cost the developer money. It also sounds from some of the content that the story may contain some type of abuse. If it does and it happens to a woman or a child, that will also have a significant impact on the story's earning potential. I am making no comment about the quality of the story. I have not played it. I am only commenting on some plot elements that can detract from a story's ability to make money. The comments from this group seem to indicate that this story contains one of those elements, I could be wrong. I am just suggesting that if it does; it might explain, at least in part, why this game is on episode three and only has 22 patrons.
Checked, your argument holds no water, only on the first page of the latest updates page when searching for NTR, most have around 100 patreons, and 3 or 4 of them are pulling over 1000 dollars.
 
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Checked, your argument holds no water, only on the first page of the latest updates page when searching for NTR, most have around 100 patreons, and 3 or 4 of them are pulling over 1000 dollars.
One hundred patrons is not what I would consider successful nor 1000 dollars per month although it would depend how long the game has been out. Let's look at it this way these are porn games. Many have argued that in pornographic movies you watch a man other that yourself having sex with a woman. I would argue that if they are like porn movies, they are like POV porn. I am no where near an expert on porn. However, what I have seen of POV porn, there doesn't seem to be other men in the scenes. What is porn all about? Making money. So why don't the majority of POV porn movies include other men, my guess would be because it's not popular. If you don't believe me, compare games of similar quality and have been out roughly the same amount of time, I think that you will generally find that the non-NTR game makes significantly more money than NTR games.
 
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One hundred patrons is not what I would consider successful nor 1000 dollars per month although it would depend how long the game has been out. Let's look at it this way these are porn games. Many have argued that in pornographic movies you watch a man other that yourself having sex with a woman. I would argue that if they are like porn movies, they are like POV porn. I am no where near an expert on porn. However, what I have seen of POV porn, there doesn't seem to be other men in the scenes. What is porn all about? Making money. So why don't the majority of POV porn movies include other men, my guess would be because it's not popular. If you don't believe me, compare games of similar quality and have been out roughly the same amount of time, I think that you will generally find that the non-NTR game makes significantly more money than NTR games.
Did you read what I wrote? these are the games on the first page of Latest updates, not the top games of the genre, most are about version 0.3 and mostly meaning update 3, so mostly new games. I'm not gonna spend an entire hour to argument this, also, in the end, it comes down to what the Dev want, not what you think the dev wants, if you have no interest in playing the game, just go do something else until the next update that will take that scene out, comes out in about a 5 days, I believe that was the estimate.
 

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Why are you commenting without playing the game? And most of what we are talking about are hypotheticals at the moment.

Also, I'll have to check the NTR games to see if your argument holds water, but the abuse one doesn't look at ecchi sensei that with the patch has rape or the Trainer games or mind control ones, there are plenty that make loads of money.
I'm talking about physical and sexual abuse. Mind control games seem to get a pass as not really rape. The story almost always includes the idea that the subject will not do anything that they really don't want to do. The sexual acts are usually depicted as what the subject secretly wants. Ecchi Sensei has been out over two years and makes less that $7000 month which is good for a game with the type of content that you have said is in there. Radiant is on has its initial release and one minor update, over $6000 per month, WVM out since August nearly $15,000 per month. They may be outliers but so is ES.

Why am I commenting without playing the game? It started when someone called the people who had issue with a particular scene "babies." All I said was the scene would cost the developer money. The additional comments are made in response to replies to me.
 

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Did you read what I wrote? these are the games on the first page of Latest updates, not the top games of the genre, most are about version 0.3 and mostly meaning update 3, so mostly new games. I'm not gonna spend an entire hour to argument this, also, in the end, it comes down to what the Dev want, not what you think the dev wants, if you have no interest in playing the game, just go do something else until the next update that will take that scene out, comes out in about a 5 days, I believe that was the estimate.
Yes, I read your comment. You claimed that you found some games on the latest update page that made some money which invalidated my argument. I increased the sample size, which as anyone can tell you, increases accuracy in extrapolating to a larger population. You are right it is up to the developer to decide what is more important to him or her: the story they are telling or the income generated. I specifically said that since the developer's goal was to reach $250/month that I believed he could do so with the current content.

P.S.: You do realize that the continued back and forth that my comments have generated do nothing but help the developer.
 

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I'm talking about physical and sexual abuse. Mind control games seem to get a pass as not really rape. The story almost always includes the idea that the subject will not do anything that they really don't want to do. The sexual acts are usually depicted as what the subject secretly wants. Ecchi Sensei has been out over two years and makes less that $7000 month which is good for a game with the type of content that you have said is in there. Radiant is on has its initial release and one minor update, over $6000 per month, WVM out since August nearly $15,000 per month. They may be outliers but so is ES.

Why am I commenting without playing the game? It started when someone called the people who had issue with a particular scene "babies." All I said was the scene would cost the developer money. The additional comments are made in response to replies to me.
Then just to end the argument, as this will go nowhere otherwise, check seeds of chaos which makes 11000 a month, what you talked about where outliers, it is simply rare for games to make that much in Patreon, there are cases, I could cite Fenoxo, or a town uncovered, summertime saga, but that amount of money is rare, it isn't the pattern, it isn't the medium, it is the top of the top, and with time, if the game knows how to appeal to its niche, it can make that amount, but it is rare, 1000 is already rare. I believe that this game has the potential to be making that kind of money, it just needs time for it to get out there, the story is interesting, the characters are good, the renders and sense of humor are also very good, and the dev obviously cares about it.
 
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Yeah, everyone trots out Seeds of Chaos; it has been out four years. Radiant could pass it with the next update. Radiant stated at the beginning that it does not and never will contain NTR. Why, because it drives many players away. WVM has been out less than a year, is currently on hold and still makes significantly more that SoC. I notice you have a WVM sig. and not a SoC. But $1000/month is not really rare. The point is moot, the developer plans to change it.
 

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Yeah, everyone trots out Seeds of Chaos; it has been out four years. Radiant could pass it with the next update. Radiant stated at the beginning that it does not and never will contain NTR. Why, because it drives many players away. WVM has been out less than a year, is currently on hold and still makes significantly more that SoC. I notice you have a WVM sig. and not a SoC. But $1000/month is not really rare. The point is moot, the developer plans to change it.
Won't say more than the point has been moot for days... thanks for keeping the thread alive and off topic. I won't answer anymore, have a nice evening :)
No offense intended, please don't take it as me being agressive I don't want to offend and have already deleted 3 full blown rants.
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Haha just thought about the door thing, haven't seen it in a long time :ROFLMAO:
 
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Talking about the story, I'm still really curious about the black aura on the Mc, I had dismissed it as to him not having much time left, or being because he technically died, but you people have sowed the seed of doubt in my mind.
 

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Won't say more than the point has been moot for days... thanks for keeping the thread alive and off topic. I won't answer anymore, have a nice evening :)
No offense intended, please don't take it as me being agressive I don't want to offend and have already deleted 3 full blown rants.
:censored::censored: ->[]

Haha just thought about the door thing, haven't seen it in a long time :ROFLMAO:
Yes, how this game will make less money because of this content is off topic. Typical, I want to have the last word so I will make a comment that I'm not going to make any more comments. Have a nice evening as well, I assure you no offence taken.
 

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I'll say that the parts where the stand in for the dev was being spanked was probably my favorite parts of the game at present
 
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