VN Ren'Py Abandoned Rand Family Values: Daddy's Home [S1E1 Update1] [Jack Redd Games]

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cooperdk

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I know, even step-family is considered incest in most places, that's why I said ""real" incest". But this isn't the real world, it's a fictional VN, so rules and laws don't matter. Most people prefer blood relations in their "incest" games, the more taboo it is, the kinkier it gets.
In most Western countries, rules and laws actually do matter in games, too. If you for example depict an underage engaging in sexual activity (fx a 12 year old), it is child pornography regardless of the images being drawn or generated.

I am unsure as to whether or not it's the same with incestuous relationships, but I believe there's a reason why Patreon doesn't allow it.
 

Glooskabe

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That's it, without that narrative I don't know what they can do, the only other conflict would be Rosa and/or any other women he chooses.

I'm not writing it off but i'm not convinced it will work with an incest setting. It would remove all the conflict going on and be your basic slow burn dad/daughter plot.

I don't think many will try it without incest but i'm not convinced it will work with it. Like I said, the last 15 minutes or so will need completely removing, the plot involving the non junkie twin will need a complete overhaul and everything with the diary would have to go.

I'll see how they handle it but i'm not convinced as of yet.



Wouldn't work and this is the issue i've got.

The major plot line at the end is one of the twins being angry she was never told he isn't her real dad. They find a diary telling them about how the first daughter was born and the mom knew who he was but lied to them about it and then how she was pregnant when she met the MC and they both lied to the twins.

All that needs a complete overhaul before changing relationships or it would be a massive plot hole.

To add actual incest will take a bit of work and that's something they should have thought about before hand if it's what they planned to do.



The dev said on the previous page they are going to do a version with incest so we're trying to figure out how it will work because that storyline would have to go.

It's a bit of a mess.
Ya, this thread kinda blew up between downloading, playing and posting. (I forgot to refresh before posting, or I would have read everything first. Ooops!)

I'm in total agreement that doing this as a "true" blood related incest game is kind of a headscratcher.
 

cooperdk

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:unsure: No incest patch? Adopted daughters ? :(
I understand that the patreon version must have adopted daughters, but on SubscribeStar no need to hide real incest which means that these may or even should be his biological daughters.
Of course this is just my opinion, but I know from experience that most people who like incest in games prefer real incest so blood related characters.
Just for the hell of it, once again.

The Patreon version cannot have adoptive daughters either, since sex with an adoptive daughter is also legally considered incest. They should be step daughters, but Patreon probably doesn't allow that either.

The fix is to make the woman the MC's best friend, and the daughters his god daughters. Or something else.

She could be his sister, too, and the girls be his nieces. That is not incest.
 

MrFriendly

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Uncle fucking his nieces is most deff incest.
Yeah... I think some people don't understand what they are talking about...

Weird, I just am super curious as to how this could be done on Subscribestar without giant rewrites like you've mentioned before.
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Yeah... I think some people don't understand what they are talking about...

Weird, I just am super curious as to how this could be done on Subscribestar without giant rewrites like you've mentioned before.
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That would work but you know this community as well as I do, they won't be happy with one.

Without even playing it we have people demanding incest. Not sure they even care about the plot to be fair.

This one is in a really weird place, gonna be interesting to see how they fix it.
 
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You've clearly been around long enough to realize that Radiant didn't start the trend of "widower father with his daughters" in adult games. Absurd that you'd suggest this is a Radiant rip-off knowing that.

Presuming you weren't just being disingenuous. I guess that's possible as well.
Most convenient excuse to get rid of the father (cuck)
 

cooperdk

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Uncle fucking his nieces is most deff incest.
Uhm.... no. Not in legal terms which is what matters when talking about Patreon etc.
(I am in Scandinavia, but this applies in all of Europe, Canada, Australia, and the US as well. I checked)

Incest is sex with your ascendants or descendants in a direct line.
Sex with your grandparents, parents, children, grandchildren and siblings is incest. Even if any of those are adopted.

Anything else is not. It is sex between family members, but not in a sense that makes it incest.
 
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str8up

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my only complaint is not being able to name our mc ..speaking of mc i like how he looks
i hope this game gets completed...90% of decent games with incest always end up abandoned and forgotten about
going to keep an eye on this one and try it at a later date like 6 months or more IF its still around by then
i use to play new games but can only play 5min teasers for so long then get to the point of saying the hell with that
NOW i only play NEW games once they made the 6month to a year mark BECAUSE alot of new games dont even make it that far
let alone get completed so.....best of luck to you dev !!!
 

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unsure why I need to "see" myself all the time... remove MC from the normal renders, feels kind of stiff games and remove the numbers from the choices....
 
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Avaron1974

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unsure why I need to "see" myself all the time... remove MC from the normal renders, feels kind of stiff games and remove the numbers from the choices....
The MC isn't you, he's designed as a third person.
 
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Uhm.... no. Not in legal terms which is what matters when talking about Patreon etc.
(I am in Scandinavia, but this applies in all of Europe, Canada, Australia, and the US as well. I checked)

Incest is sex with your ascendants or descendants in a direct line.
Sex with your grandparents, parents, children, grandchildren and siblings is incest. Even if any of those are adopted.

Anything else is not. It is sex between family members, but not in a sense that makes it incest.
Huh. Learn something new every day. You're right, that's also the actual definition according to what I'm finding online.
 

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Coming in hot...

This is one of those game which I feel that actually having a Harem route might benefit the story as it helps to tie the whole family closer, cheesy as it sounds.

The girls all need MC in a way and going by a route for the multi-girls route which sounds like excluding some of the other "daughters" might end up feeling "forced", especially if the game is focused on a happy ending for the family eventually.

Its still early game so i might be jumping the gun here but its just my vibe from playing the game currently. I might feel differently later but for now, I hope MC daddy can love all the girls equally.
 

Avaron1974

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Uhm.... no. Not in legal terms which is what matters when talking about Patreon etc.
(I am in Scandinavia, but this applies in all of Europe, Canada, Australia, and the US as well. I checked)

Incest is sex with your ascendants or descendants in a direct line.
Sex with your grandparents, parents, children, grandchildren and siblings is incest. Even if any of those are adopted.

Anything else is not. It is sex between family members, but not in a sense that makes it incest.
Allow me to present the large middle finger of evidence...



No idea where you pulled your nonsense from but any blood relations is classed as incest.

Coming in hot...

This is one of those game which I feel that actually having a Harem route might benefit the story as it helps to tie the whole family closer, cheesy as it sounds.

The girls all need MC in a way and going by a route for the multi-girls route which sounds like excluding some of the other "daughters" might end up feeling "forced", especially if the game is focused on a happy ending for the family eventually.

Its still early game so i might be jumping the gun here but its just my vibe from playing the game currently. I might feel differently later but for now, I hope MC daddy can love all the girls equally.
You can have all the daughters without a harem, there are multi LI groups planned.

Harem means ALL the girls and there are a lot of girls, that wouldn't work for obvious reasons.
 

MrFriendly

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Huh. Learn something new every day. You're right, that's also the actual definition according to what I'm finding online.
Except they are wrong. In the United States it is a state by state issue (because we can't even make fucking someone simple). All you have to do is look at the Wiki: and see that in most states it is legally considered Incest to fuck the children of your siblings.
 
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