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LazwelX

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Not at that moment, but yeah, I'm too easily influenced by various opinions, and as a result, the development entered death spiral in which I kept reworking and reworking stuff, never satisfied by results. That's why I decided to post my next game, Isis only in complete state.

In the end though, the main reason I gave up on RoAW, aside from fatigue, was the fact I lost major part of my Koikatsu models for the game.
it's gonna sound cliche but you're never going to satisfy everyone and you will always receive criticism follow the route that most of the best creators i know follow: just do what you enjoy and those who enjoy it as well will while those who dont will complain and then find something else.obviously dont ignore legit criticism, but most of the "reviews" here and such are best ignored, sucks you lost the koikatsu stuff though.
 

Troqu

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it's gonna sound cliche but you're never going to satisfy everyone and you will always receive criticism follow the route that most of the best creators i know follow: just do what you enjoy and those who enjoy it as well will while those who dont will complain and then find something else.obviously dont ignore legit criticism, but most of the "reviews" here and such are best ignored, sucks you lost the koikatsu stuff though.
That's pretty much what he did, waiting til the next game is complete means no outside influences to change direction mid stream. Sure there might be things that need to be tweaked or modified now (I haven't had a chance to play ISIS yet so I don't even know what kind of mechanics it has if any) but I doubt there's going to be large scale rewrites.
 
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Mister XxX

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I like to think he got wore down by the forum, after all I remembered the time when he was nearly finishing the game when a lot of people lambasted him for adding the prince and related stuff, and when he was reworking the game to suit those critics he got told by others that the original version was okay or better. Pretty sure that his motivationto finish the game got grinded down to oblivion during that moment.

Well in this particular case probably, but the fact is Tjord is rarely satisfied with his work and tend to jump to one work to another.
It happens with Dark lord rises, then Noblesse Oblige, then Dark Lord.

I don't blame honestly and I think releasing finished produced like ISIS is a good idea.
 
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Not at that moment, but yeah, I'm too easily influenced by various opinions, and as a result, the development entered death spiral in which I kept reworking and reworking stuff, never satisfied by results. That's why I decided to post my next game, Isis only in complete state.

In the end though, the main reason I gave up on RoAW, aside from fatigue, was the fact I lost major part of my Koikatsu models for the game.
I just play isis and I thought it was awesome. Very straight to the point good amount of scenes.
 

xthaatgirlx

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Not at that moment, but yeah, I'm too easily influenced by various opinions, and as a result, the development entered death spiral in which I kept reworking and reworking stuff, never satisfied by results. That's why I decided to post my next game, Isis only in complete state.

In the end though, the main reason I gave up on RoAW, aside from fatigue, was the fact I lost major part of my Koikatsu models for the game.
Man, really unfortunate D:, I really loved this, wish you best of luck with your future projects tho :)
 

Mk900

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sad its abandoned, was one of my favourites and most waited games here on f95
out of curiosity, what was the planned ending for the game, and what was waiting for euphemia down the line? other than an obvious mirror fragment corruption scene. and for any of the other main characters as well, after 2 years sorry i forgot most of their names:(
unless it would spoil the story for an eventual plan of yours for a asturian war reborn(why not,one can still hope:))
 
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harold

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For the past 6 months I have been silently remaking and finishing Record of Asturion War, originally written by Tjord. With his blessing and support I am halfway finished with it! The release will be free and I hope to do it justice :) I will make a new post once finished and release the game here and on Pixiv
 

Mister XxX

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For the past 6 months I have been silently remaking and finishing Record of Asturion War, originally written by Tjord. With his blessing and support I am halfway finished with it! The release will be free and I hope to do it justice :) I will make a new post once finished and release the game here and on Pixiv
Does Bosun will be the protag this time ?
 

test011

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Awesome news, wish you luck with that.
Btw im going to kind of miss the SRPG element of the game, it made it even more unique since almost no other western dev uses it.
 

harold

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Awesome news, wish you luck with that.
Btw im going to kind of miss the SRPG element of the game, it made it even more unique since almost no other western dev uses it.
Thanks mate, appreciate it!!
I hear you, I really love playing SRPGs, one day I'd love to give making one a go, but for this one I've gone all in on Renpy
 
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Thank you for the time and dedication you are putting into this, wish you all the best!

Also got a question, if not too much of a spoiler or sounding too demanding, how open ended would the choices be? Will be like some renpy games where the few choices at the middle or the end will give you different endings, or will it be like the rare few that spilts into multiple different paths with a lot of content (and at the same time requiring an awfully lot of work needing to be done)
 
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harold

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Thank you for the time and dedication you are putting into this, wish you all the best!

Also got a question, if not too much of a spoiler or sounding too demanding, how open ended would the choices be? Will be like some renpy games where the few choices at the middle or the end will give you different endings, or will it be like the rare few that spilts into multiple different paths with a lot of content (and at the same time requiring an awfully lot of work needing to be done)
There will be two main endings (and several bad endings if you fail along the way), but a lot of content will change depending on when or how you do things. Some girls will be missable if you make the wrong choices, and battles may be more difficult without the right combination.
 

Astolostrat

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Sounds awesome, can't say I'm not excited. I'm really curious as to how it will look for new corrupted character, mind sharing one?
 

Nail

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Oh damn. I just checked this thread on a whim. I love SRPG porn games and there are so few out there, let alone ones I enjoyed as much as this one. The one by Apollo7 got me in the mood, so I thought I'd poke to see if there was any news, but I certainly didn't expect something as recent as a month ago! I understand completely the decision to rework the story in Ren'py rather than SRPG Studio, and look forward to seeing again and seeing it finished. You have brought me hope when I didn't expect to find any.

I hold nothing but respect and admiration for Tjord, and was downhearted to hear about his "death spiral" as he called it, as well as the decision to put RoAW on a permanent hiatus. I've fooled around with SRPG studio a teensy bit, and the amount of work needed to put into a game like this is, frankly, staggering. Classes, growths, levels, equipment, skills, etc. etc. are all things you might learn as a player, but then to actually balance that against enemies, maps, bosses, and the like is another level. And then do that again for EVERY SINGLE CHAPTER is mind boggling.

And that's just the base game. Then you have to factor in all the work that's required for conversations, and whether or not A talked to B or if C was defeated before A. The SRPG Studio I used was sure as shit not the easiest UI for keeping track of all of that. Or any dialogue at all really.

AND THEN you start on the porn aspect, telling an invigorating story through newly created custom characters.

To call an endeavor like this a passion project undersells just how much effort goes into a game like this. 'Passion' and 'effort' give off a connotation that if you just buckle down and grit your teeth you can get it done. You can't. It's not a sprint. It's not even a marathon. Its a lifestyle. You have to fully incorporate it into how you think, and understand that it's going to be what you're going to be doing for one fuck-ass long time.

So to Tjord: I salute you. Your perseverance is an inspiration, and your creativity is an aspiration.

And to harold: I offer you my deepest gratitude. To be working on a project for half a year speaks volumes of your own perseverance and commitment to your craft. I eagerly await to bear witness to the fruits of your labors.
 

supertails92

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I've made an update on my progress and showed off some screenshots on my Pixiv! To summarise I'm 3 or 4 months out from finishing RoAW Redux!
Very nice!

I would like to ask, why the switch of engine? Looks like you're using Ren'Py now. Is it still an SRPG?
 

harold

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Very nice!

I would like to ask, why the switch of engine? Looks like you're using Ren'Py now. Is it still an SRPG?
I appreciate the question!
I really wanted to finish this game and give a sense of closure to the plot. I totally understand that the SRPG aspect is what drew a lot of people in, but I just couldn't get my head around SRPG Studio. I'm just now dipping my toes into game making and Renpy seemed like the best option for a noob like me!

I made the combat into turn based fighting a la early FF and Pokemon. Battles are thematic so there's no need for grinding, but that's not to say they're easy... For those looking for an extra challenge some battles have challenge conditions, if you complete those you may be rewarded~

I do apologise to everyone hoping for more SRPG goodness, I only hope the plot closure and RPG system make up for it! For future titles I would love to expand beyond Renpy, perhaps one day I will make an SRPG game, but I will need more experience and practice to make that a reality.

PS if anyone should be interested in testing the combat, I can have a small package ready this weekend (several choice non-spoiler battles separate from the rest of the game). I've run through these battles half a dozen times each, but I am a mere cretin who knows the combat inside out. I would love feedback on what I can improve and how the damage scaling feels!
 
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