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Avaron1974

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Why must you continuously tease me with andi (the name change and hair colour change is still a bit to get used to :S ).... And why must I continuously enjoy every moment XD
I don't know if you'd read the previous posts or not but because I seem to always end up shitting on peoples hopes and dreams in other games, may as well do it here too.

There is no incest in this game so Andi will never be an option.

You do still have the option of the 3 LI's which are Nicky, Vicky and Eve.
 

RogueKnightUK

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There is no incest in this game so Andi will never be an option.
I think (as the earlier exchange with Rythan25 showed) people sometimes mistake why there is no incest in this game for some kind of moral judgement. The reality though is that it just didn't fit.

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Rythan25

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All this complaining about the goths and nerds... the girl I found the hottest in the game got one sex scene and DISAPPEARED from the story completely... and yet I dont come calling for the devs head to include her at all... I'm talking of course of Tania...

We have seen James, Markus, and Lucas multiple times, and their agency... but Tania got swallowed by a black hole it seems...

I am complacent, cause unlike people that make stuff up, I have kept up with all 109 pages of people talking about the game... mostly the posts from MrKnobb and RogueKnightUK , and when S2 started up till like ep3 it was STATED that only 2 LI would exist... those being Nicky and Vicky.. I am glad Eve garnered enough support to make them change their mind and include her as the 3rd.

Honestly go back to the early pages... I remember asking Knobb if the "barista girl" would get a dicking, as I found her stupidly hot !! Then I forgot about her till I saw Eve dressed up I remembered who she was before she used the Barista disguise again.

However I am not gonna lie to MrKnobb , I once told him Andi wasnt that cute... and her original model with sunken cheeks and very petite frame was unapealing to me... she has gotten way more attractive in the later episodes... I still sadly think ReyRey (smurf) >>> Andi... but I Andi is incredibly attractive now rather than "meh". hell Nicola(my least favorite girl perhaps) has gotten far more attractive with those new muscles LOL.
 

RogueKnightUK

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I have kept up with all 109 pages of people talking about the game... mostly the posts from MrKnobb and RogueKnightUK , and when S2 started up till like ep3 it was STATED that only 2 LI would exist... those being Nicky and Vicky.. I am glad Eve garnered enough support to make them change their mind and include her as the 3rd.
If you look again you'll see we were being a little sneaky with what we actually said, as Eve was a planned third LI right back in S1, so we said things like "only Vicky and Nicky are options" (which is not the same as saying we only intend for there to be only 2 all through). ;)
 
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Rythan25

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If you look again you'll see we were being a little sneaky with what we actually said, as Eve was a planned third LI right back in S1, so we said things like "only Vicky and Nicky are options" (which is not the same as saying we only intend for there to be only 2 all through). ;)
I hate you for that...

I like speaking in LITERAL terms !! None of that in between the lines... LOL.

I suppose I can give you that one, since at the time of S1 Eve hadnt even been revealed, she was still just "Barista Girl" with no connections to "The Major" as of yet. I just hate seeing those few people brag how "they always knew Eve was an option"...

I am going to hunt down my posts here and on Patreon where I flat out asked that question, and got told "no"... I appreciated it since it means you guys "refused to spoil me, even for something I clearly wanted"... but this wasnt a "its so obvious you were just dumb" type thing... shit didnt get obvious till the "Cabin episode", and that point no matter how hard you or Knobb tried to deny it, it was obvious Eve was sneaking in as a LI... the fact that by the end of that episode your choice of who to sleep with was "Nicky, Vicky, or EVE", just was hammering it in.
 

RogueKnightUK

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Yeah, we do take a few liberties with little 'misdirections'. One of them you just pointed out - that first scene where the Barista flashed her ass is precisely the kind of thing games do to show you you'll get a chance to have her later as some small side-chick role thing. A set-up, so you never suspected she was anything more, making the later reveal all the sweeter.

Another would be the way we hung the possibility of Nicky being the biological daughter out there, and kept the suspense for a while, so that even though you 'knew' we'd said no incest, you still had to wonder, at least a tiny bit.

The story as a whole is supposed to keep you guessing a bit. Both in the big stuff of guessing what the heck is going on with the bigger plot, but also in some of the finer points. After all, when you have correctly worked something out, or at least guessed right, you get that pleasant feeling of satisfaction when it is confirmed.
 

BadWolf71

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Okay, so I was going to make a post with quotes from those that didn't like the 2nd Season (Series as the Brits call it), because of this reason or that reason. But there were too many quotes that I kept getting tired of clicking on the "Quote adding it to the list.

So, I'll just sum up and then post my comments on what was said: "The 2nd Series was a mess, I'm out!" "Female protagonists, I'm out!" "No Mei as an LI, I'm out!" "The writing sucks so I'm going to leave a shit post and then have a big pissing contest with the writer because I can do better. Oh, wait..... the writer replied and made me look like a jackass, I'm out!" "Lesbians! I'm out!" "No incest, I'm out!"

I think that's all of it summed up. My response: "Buh Bye!" "Don't let the door hit you, where the good Lord split you!" "If you don't like what you see here, get the fuck out!" (That last one I paraphrased from the Extreme song "Get the Funk Out". Good song, look it up.).

Yes, opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one.

Did I like that Mei wasn't going to be a love interest? No, not really. But that didn't matter that much to make me not play this 2nd season out. I still am catching up with other games, so I have yet to have a peek at ep. 6 (And I'm dying to see it, but in good time). I happen to like the story writing, being a person that has a taste of writing things of my own (currently writing dialog for a Skyrim SE mod that I happened to get some talented mod creators and a VA to do all of the magic stuff that I can't do), I think it was well written. People that do not like it.....well, again. That's your opinion that you have a right, as a human, to have. But no need to try and make your point be having arguments with others in here, let alone the writer of said game. You're in waaaaayyyyy above your head with that. Go swim back to the shallow end to save yourself from drowning.

Lesbians? What's the problem? Wanted man/man action? There are other games out there (I don't look for them, but I'm sure they're out there.) that should have the man/man thing in it.

Female Protagonists: Hmmm, let me see if I have the, somewhat, definition as to what a Protagonist is. Protagonist: Main player/character in a game or book. So, by saying that there were so many female protagonists in this season/series is saying that Jensen is no longer in the story and that you are making choices/seeing the perspective of only one of the many different females in this one. Nope, unless I missed the switch, it's still about Jensen.

Incest: Come on, we all need a break from it in a good story now and then. At least I needed it. And this one is a good reason for that break from it.

The 2nd season/series was a mess? How? Because the focus was off of Jensen and no fucking in the game? Hello....Lesbians (I'm not one to not like a good girl/girl action. I'm a living, breathing, married (For too damn long) man! I love some good girl/girl action!)!

Lastly, back to the writing again, and how this season played out (That I have played so far. Up to ep. 5 only). Jensen was damn near dead. I knew that coming into this season. So, unless you wanted really bad writing at the beginning of this season, were you expecting in the 1st ep. that Jensen fucked a woman on the first image and made a full recovery and out after the "Ghost"?

Boy, are you in the wrong place. Anyone should have expected that this was going to be more of a supporting cast season. I expected as much. Oh, but wait, I'm not part of the team and I have a mindset of a writer, so I guess not everyone could have seen that coming. You can't end one season, with Jensen falling from that height. To where, at the beginning of this season, Jensen fucking one of the women in the story and a flashback to how he recovered and why he is fucking a woman. If that's what you expected, then go find that shitty writing in another game. It won't be in here.

And with that, I will end this full page editorial and say my last line after I thank the entire team for the 2nd Season and I will return when I play the 6th ep. to make my final thoughts public.

Thank you for your time, I now send you back to your regularly scheduled thread discussion already in progress.
 

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Rythan25 and everyone else reading this... When you watch a movie or TV series.. you teh watcher kinda knows before the main characters what the bad guys are thinking / doing right....

Not so in a VN or atleast not ours.. We show you some of what the bad guys are doing but not all... If we just told you everything up front then RTP will be bland. I know you get this...
 

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(That last one I paraphrased from the Extreme song "Get the Funk Out". Good song, look it up.)

DUDE.. we are best bud's Nuno is guitar GOD... and Extreme III probably best CD for me...(yes i know it's not from that cd)

LOLZ ... sorry if that is all i am quoting from your post... ;)
 

BadWolf71

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(That last one I paraphrased from the Extreme song "Get the Funk Out". Good song, look it up.)

DUDE.. we are best bud's Nuno is guitar GOD... and Extreme III probably best CD for me...(yes i know it's not from that cd)

LOLZ ... sorry if that is all i am quoting from your post... ;)
It's okay. I understand. He's good, but a far cry from Steve Vai & Joe Satriani. They are all great technical guitar players. I have my top 3 (And it's an opinion, mine alone....wait, my youngest son shares my top 3 and not because I'm his Dad. But because he's learning guitar because of them):

1. Ace Frehley
2. Jimmy Page
3. Slash

P.S. Rest in Peace....I love that song. Get the Funk out is my favorite. When I'm President is good also. I know, 2 different albums. Extreme II: Pornografiti & Extreme III
 

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100%.. people say this or that guitarist is best ever .. you know the type... Santana is best or Mark Knofler is best...
Meanwhile people like Al di Meola, Frank Zappa, John Mclaughlin and Allan Holdsworth are just ... well next level...

For me EVH, Gary Moore, Eric Johnson and SRV...

Guess it's like these VN's... up to one's taste

It's okay. I understand. He's good, but a far cry from Steve Vai & Joe Satriani. They are all great technical guitar players. I have my top 3 (And it's an opinion, mine alone....wait, my youngest son shares my top 3 and not because I'm his Dad. But because he's learning guitar because of them):

1. Ace Frehley
2. Jimmy Page
3. Slash

P.S. Rest in Peace....I love that song. Get the Funk out is my favorite. When I'm President is good also. I know, 2 different albums. Extreme II: Pornografiti & Extreme III
 
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100%.. people say this or that guitarist is best ever .. you know the type... Santana is best or Mark Knofler is best...
Meanwhile people like Al di Meola, Frank Zappa, John Mclaughlin and Allan Holdsworth are just ... well next level...

For me EVH, Gary Moore, Eric Johnson and SRV...

Guess it's like these VN's... up to one's taste
B.B. King, Ted Nugent, Brian Setzer, Angus Young, Lindsay Buckingham, Mark Knofler, George Thorogood, Santana, Neil Schone (Who was discovered and played with Santana when Niel was 16), SRV, Eric Clapton....my list can go on. My preference is more Gibson players because of the deep sound they can give out. I'm learning myself & I'm 48. It's a slow process when having to work and write and play games to unwind from work. Sometime, I'll share my pictures of the 2 guitars that I own.
 

RogueKnightUK

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Yes, but, IMHO, he was okay. Not overly impressed by him. Now Prince, he was a damn good player.
Maybe we should move this to another forum, like the General Chat ... but I'm still going to say that I love Jimmi Hendrix for having the artistic vision to do it all before that was what guitarists do. Prince though, that guy was so much more than a guitarist - composer, writer, producer, and played and wrote for just about every instrument known ... He was like the short and kinky Mozart of our age. :D
 
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