PervyParadox

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If there was, I hope there isn't now. Most people don't want to even pretend to be brutal to other people. Seek help.
You might want to delete this message, or at least the last part. I also despise fantaisies of violence and abuse but there's no help to seek if one can understand the difference between reality and fiction and no one gets hurt for real.
 

PervyParadox

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Anyone that gets a stiffy from rape really does need help.
That's awfully judgemental, especially for this place. People who don't suffer from their fantaisies or don't make others suffer because of their fantaisies don't do anything bad and therefore don't "need" help, at least not for that matter. We can't help what our preferences are, and accepting our fantasies does not mean acting on them. That's what games and other fictions are for actually.

There's not much of a debate there, he litterally just asked a question. You don't have to be friend with that person, but F95 is one of the worst place to judge people openly only because of their fantaisies. We don't know enough to really say if someone needs help here.

I mean we all more or less could use some help but that's beside the point :p
 

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Thanks for the quick answers guys, appreciate it.



Don't worry I'm not shitting on vanilla games, they have their place like everything else. On some days I even enjoy a good vanilla game if the story and characters are good, although when I'm in the mood for something like that I usually stick to regular original Japanese 2d eroge romcoms.



Shame, but no sweat off my back. You're right, there's plenty of really good games on here that offer that kind of satisfaction, like for example : Corrupted Kingdoms / Deviant Anomalies / V.I.R.T.U.E.S / Harem Hotel / The Inn / Twisted Memories / Waifu Academy ( Damn those were / are good games )

Yeah, I think I'll just wait some more until this one is completely finished if it ever happens and then give it a shot when I'm really bored with nothing better to do. Have a good day guys o/
I like some fucked up shit but I also like Ripples as well. Though if you're not a story or character kinda dude, then it may not be for you.

I'd recommend Pale Carnations, has a lot of bdsm/prostitution/domination/submissive/drugs/water torture stuff (all optional for others that may wanna try the game), but also an interesting story surrounding it.

Of course this game might also be too tame for you lol but I think its pretty good, nice balance of dark shit and wholesome shit
 
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Anyone that gets a stiffy from rape really does need help.
Fantasies are fantasies. There are people out there who find rape fantasies hot but don't like it in real life, hence the word "Fantasy". As long as they separate fiction and reality I don't see any issue there.

Why not hold other gamers to the same standard? A lot of gamers login to open world RPG games like GTA and Skyrim and just go ham on the people there, killing everyone to destress. Does that mean they're violent killers in real life, and need to seek help? No. They may enjoy murdering people in front of their screen but a lot of them don't like seeing/experiencing it in real life.

I myself am not fond of the rape genre, but I'm not really one to judge those who are. As long as they keep their fantasies as fantasies then you should leave them alone.
 

Son of Durin

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Fantasies are fantasies. There are people out there who find rape fantasies hot but don't like it in real life, hence the word "Fantasy". As long as they separate fiction and reality I don't see any issue there.

Why not hold other gamers to the same standard? A lot of gamers login to open world RPG games like GTA and Skyrim and just go ham on the people there, killing everyone to destress. Does that mean they're violent killers in real life, and need to seek help? No. They may enjoy murdering people in front of their screen but a lot of them don't like seeing/experiencing it in real life.

I myself am not fond of the rape genre, but I'm not really one to judge those who are. As long as they keep their fantasies as fantasies then you should leave them alone.
A RPG where you're shooting at an enemy shooting back is different. A game like GTA, though, where you go on murder and rape rampages would get the same reaction from me. The mind that wants to even fantasize and pretend to beat and rape a woman, or mow down random people on a sidewalk, is a mind that scares me a bit.
 
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A RPG where you're shooting at an enemy shooting back is different. A game like GTA, though, where you go on murder and rape rampages would get the same reaction from me. The mind that wants to even fantasize and pretend to beat and rape a woman, or mow down random people on sidewalk, is a mind that scares me a bit.
Well, human minds are complex. Some want one thing in their imagination but don't want the same thing in reality. I won't even try to pretend that I understand it. We usually won't know about this unless the people who do/enjoy these explicitly tell us or we see them play. So as long as they're not acting it out in real life, ignorance is bliss I guess.
 

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Well, human minds are complex. Some want one thing in their imagination but don't want the same thing in reality. I won't even try to pretend that I understand it. We usually won't know about this unless the people who do/enjoy these explicitly tell us or we see them play. So as long as they're not acting it out in real life, ignorance is bliss I guess.
Yea, its like incest likers
Its not like they wanna fuck their mom and sisters irl







...right? :HideThePain:
 

Dragon59

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Yea, its like incest likers
Its not like they wanna fuck their mom and sisters irl







...right? :HideThePain:
I never had a step mom or step sister (my parents have been married for 65 years), so that has no bearing on me. I did have a step-cousin...

I occasionally saw parents and sister naked and it did nothing for me. It was just non-sexual nudity. I roll my eyes at the porn scenes where the protagonist loses all control at the mere sight of familial nudity.

On the other hand, I admit to lusting a bit after my sister's girlfriends and the daughters of my parents' friends though...

It is probably the closest I came to the trope in real life. That of course, makes me think of a key aspect of the incest trope.

Like the (step) incest tropes, my own attractions were people who were in the house, at least temporarily. This convinces me that the incest trop is largely the stuff of introvert fantasies--finding sexual partners without having to leave the house and actually having to get to know new people!
 

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I agree with what most people are saying. While I don't like games where the guy MC is a pyscho who will do anything to get laid no matter if it's lie cheat steal drugs or some other form of manipulations that doesn't mean anyone who does has some kind of issue. I much rather people get that itch out in the virtual world rather than the real world. As for the whole modern warfare is ok because they are fighting back thing. I look at it like this if the game has stuff that makes you uncomfortable then don't play it there are many games on this website that have graphics that I am like hmmmm but then I see what it's about and I end up avoiding it. If games were made to cater only to a specific thought process the world would get boring.

with that logic then don't ever watch horror movies they promote killing. Does that make anyone who has ever watched a horror movie a bad person who needs help. In that same vain does porn in general not promote a thought process that it's ok to do what you want cause it will all turn out ok in the end. Anyone who has every thought about punching their boss in the face do they all need to seek help as well. Don't get me wrong I am not saying there is no line at all but it can become a slippery slope real fast.

Just because I am not into certain things don't make someone sick because they are. That logic has got us so divided in this world already. The world isn't black or white it's very grey and if you only look at it from your perspective only and never try and see other views then your going to miss a lot of things and hurt a lot of people.
 

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There are adult games here, and there are porn games here.

Adult games are games that happen to have adult content.

Porn games are porn that has gameplay/story for the primary purpose of enhancing its pornographic eroticism.

Ripples is an adult game but not a porn game. Yes, funny place to say this because the game itself pokes fun at that

"Whatever you enjoy is fine if it's not hurting anyone" is one of the biggest myths that are widely accepted now.

Is it okay for a pedophile to record your preteen daughter naked in the bathroom at her middle school, jerk off 6 times a day moaning her name and make drawings of her getting raped and tortured in ways that would make most hentai artists vomit? It's "not hurting anyone" if nobody knows about it.

I'm not saying he should be arrested or punished for what he does in private, that would be insane. However, what he is doing is NOT good or okay, even though he is "not hurting anyone". "Well I'd rather him do that than rape her for real" is disingenuous. How about, "I'd rather him get help rather than keep relying on these antisocial outlets."
 
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Yesterday i saw someone made a 3D video on rule 34 about someone fucking a headless Tifa with Scarlet held her head in the background, i personally dont believe it if anyone who could enjoying such abomination is okay in the head. just saying tho
fuck i saw that same vid :HideThePain:
ive read my fair share of guro shit, i hate guro shit, but i sometimes hate read it to see wtf is happening (like that tifa vid, i was so confused when i saw Tifa's head blink her eyes)

While i would find it weird for someone to find that hot and fap to it, i can understand the human feeling of curiosity making them interested in fucked up things. Porn games like Starless are famous for a reason.

Even for all that, i would say not to judge a person based on the media they consume.

A lot of people like true crime shows, where they explain all those fucked up murders and kidnappings,
but doesnt mean the viewers wanna be murderers.

People have the ability to compartmentalize different events they experience, as to not let their imagination bleed into their everyday life. If we couldn't, world would be way more fucked up (than it already is, those fucked up ones are ones that cant separate reality from fiction)
 
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Yesterday i saw someone made a 3D video on rule 34 about someone fucking a headless Tifa with Scarlet held her head in the background, i personally dont believe it if anyone who could enjoying such abomination is okay in the head. just saying tho
Does laughing counts as enjoyment ? Because just imagining it sounds hilarious :LUL:

Though reducing someone to his fantaisies is the trap here. Someone perfectly fine otherwise could just enjoy fapping to this kind of thing. I'd totally laugh at them for that because I found it ridiculous, but it's possible to laugh at something without judging the someone. Same for disgust, being disgusted by something and not by someone, laughing at something and not at someone. The difference is subtle but it's there, and understanding this difference is the key to learn how to judge acts and ideas instead of judging people.

Though disgust is less pleasant than laughter I'd admit.

I was about to ask the link for this, but I think I can live without the image in my head :HideThePain:
 

somedude0190

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There are adult games here, and there are porn games here.

Adult games are games that happen to have adult content.

Porn games are porn that has gameplay/story for the primary purpose of enhancing its pornographic eroticism.

Ripples is an adult game but not a porn game. Yes, funny place to say this because the game itself pokes fun at that

"Whatever you enjoy is fine if it's not hurting anyone" is one of the biggest myths that are widely accepted now.

Is it okay for a pedophile to record your preteen daughter naked in the bathroom at her middle school, jerk off 6 times a day moaning her name and make drawings of her getting raped and tortured in ways that would make most hentai artists vomit? It's "not hurting anyone" if nobody knows about it.

I'm not saying he should be arrested or punished for what he does in private, that would be insane. However, what he is doing is NOT good or okay, even though he is "not hurting anyone". "Well I'd rather him do that than rape her for real" is disingenuous. How about, "I'd rather him get help rather than keep relying on these antisocial outlets."
If you want to take everything to the extremes then water is bad for you. If you drink to much water you die it's called water intoxication. You are taking a leap from someone getting their "kink" or just indulging in whatever you want to call it in game that was specifically designed for that and everyone who took part in making that game hopefully consented to. Then making a straw man argument well what if it happened in the real world. With that argument 90% of porn and these games (which I am assuming since your on these boards you enjoy) are bad.

There is a huge line between doing something in a game and wanting to do that to someone in real life. Yes if he wanted to rape, drug, or any other of the things he mentioned to a real person then I would be very concerned and think he needs to be supervised, but to simple ask if it's in a game cause he wants to get that fetish out no I don't think that person should be vilified as if he did it to someone in real life.

This is what I am talking about with grey areas. I said that if he wants to get the kink out in a virtual world I would rather that then the real world and you come back with well what if he did it to your daughter 6 times a day. First off as far as I know these games are not illegal where pedophilia, and kidnapping and torture are illegal so already there is a significant difference from what I said to what you suggested.

I also stated but you seemed to have left out that yes there is obviously a line but you should be careful cause it's a slippery slope. We can take anything to an extreme and make it bad (not saying what he likes isn't bad but it's to a digital character that was made for that purpose apposed to a real life person who did not consent). How about any movies that glorify violence or any video games. If you get stronger by beating up on things in a game is that not "bad" if you get enjoyment watching a hero or villian (depending on who you are routing for) beat up on one another does that make you violent?

I am not saying that a game like that (rape, manipulation, etc, ect) is good but what I am saying is I rather someone do it here then in the real world. A millions of people (if not billions) do things in video games every day that they wouldn't even think of doing in real life it doesn't mean they are prepare to actually do it in reality.

I don't mean to come off as I am shaming you for your comment, but I think you need to really think about things before you post it. Granted right now even though I have thought about what I am writing I am sure there are things I probably didn't say right and it might come off the wrong way, but I worry that people worry about the wrong things when there are a lot of things out there to truly worry about. I am less worried about some random guy getting kink of in a virtual world that don't hurt anyone then I am about our society as a whole.

There really are a ton of people who do need mental help because they can't handle the stress of day to day life or they get bullied and because they don't end up getting the help they need they do terrible things. Those are the things I think we as a society need to worry about. Instead of casting the first stone at someone why not do a random act of kindness instead it might be something like staying an extra 10 or 15 seconds at a door holding it open for someone, but that little act might literally save a life. I am sure some of you probably think I am being stupid but I don't know how many times a small gesture made my day go from crappy to good.
 

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If there was, I hope there isn't now. Most people don't want to even pretend to be brutal to other people. Seek help.
I would like a bit of corruption (in an healthy way) though, along with impregnation. The rest he mentioned really isn't my thing at all.

I don't even think the game is the vanilla type he wants to compare, sure there are moments like that, but it fits the cuteness of the female characters and the good nature of the MC.

I hope not! :p (What's wrong with vanilla? To many games here are totalled by all those weird kinks of you guys, grrrm mumble, mumble)

Joking aside, so far this game seems to be giving signals that it will stay pretty vanilla.
Besides the MC potentially being the father of several of his own LI's (Time Travel Galore!) he seems pretty loving and caring in a non- creepy way.
(There is a bit of cucking and *cest, that's it so far)
Personally I do prefer vanilla, although dark themes from other characters, if well written can enrich the plot, as well reinforce the "good nature" from the MC. I really think it doesn't fit the game, as well the way mentioned it probably means he wants to do that as MC (which really isn't my thing at all), still just wanted to mention that if well written, dark moments can enhance the goodwill of the MC and yours as well, if you like the MC's actions to somewhat represent yours in real life.
You might want to delete this message, or at least the last part. I also despise fantaisies of violence and abuse but there's no help to seek if one can understand the difference between reality and fiction and no one gets hurt for real.
I do agree with you, the thing is that the way he mentioned it made it seem like he didn't care about the plot and just wanted his fetishes. I mean, the game isn't that vanilla imo. It has vanilla yes, but isn't the main genre.

Vanilla is stuff like Kanon, I basicly felt asleep at one episode lol.

A RPG where you're shooting at an enemy shooting back is different. A game like GTA, though, where you go on murder and rape rampages would get the same reaction from me. The mind that wants to even fantasize and pretend to beat and rape a woman, or mow down random people on a sidewalk, is a mind that scares me a bit.
I loved GTA has a kid, I played tons and tons of times, and did all the missions. And I still despise violence and guns, and as an non-american, I'm extremely vocal about the lack of gun control on the US.

If anything, I can even say GTA helped to understand the consequences of it. So yeah, it isn't as literal as you mention. But i guess that's also a matter of the education of family, friends and even culture for that to happen. But this is just my opinion btw, and I respect yours.
 
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