Ren'Py Completed Room for Rent [v16 beta] [CeLaVie Group]

[MrDL]

Most of the people in this forum like this game. I beleive that constructive criticism is always productive. This rant is, however, not constructive and an obvious troll attempt.

Suppose that as a child, you loved Easter egg hunts. You probably will like this game.

Maybe as an adult, you never pass up a scavenger hunt. This, my friend is your game.

Maybe, as an adult, you only do scavenger hunts with a map and a cheat sheet or in the company of someone that knows where all the swag is to be found.

In that case this game is not for you. You should find a different hobby.

Life is short. Thanks for playing.

I think the 2.5 rating would disagree with this. Having to guess which room to be in and at what time without a walk through mod is not fun, the silly attempt at locking out saving except on a new day is lame, I get the idea behind it but it's still lame. Hell, even with a walk through mod it's not fun, there's no real story despite the claim of there being a very good one, it's still a boring grind, uninteresting loop for pictures with a grandpa grooming teen girls, I guess on the plus side at least they're not related. The dev is also getting the most out of that one model.

But hey, if you like a mindless, brain dead grind and are a bit of a masochist then this is the game for you.

On the positive side, you can pretty much hold control and skip through most the repetitive, yet required events to advance, you might miss an added picture or two but it's not that big a deal. I've gone a fairly decent way in so far at day 119 but still no where near caught up, this would be much better if it was streamlined and all these meaningless events were done away with, there's way too much repetition that it comes off to me as padding for the sake of padding and too little reward.

 

[AbrahamFroman]

I think the 2.5 rating would disagree with this. Having to guess which room to be in and at what time without a walk through mod is not fun, the silly attempt at locking out saving except on a new day is lame, I get the idea behind it but it's still lame. Hell, even with a walk through mod it's not fun, there's no real story despite the claim of there being a very good one, it's still a boring grind, uninteresting loop for pictures with a grandpa grooming teen girls, I guess on the plus side at least they're not related. The dev is also getting the most out of that one model.

But hey, if you like a mindless, brain dead grind and are a bit of a masochist then this is the game for you.

On the positive side, you can pretty much hold control and skip through most the repetitive, yet required events to advance, you might miss an added picture or two but it's not that big a deal. I've gone a fairly decent way in so far at day 119 but still no where near caught up, this would be much better if it was streamlined and all these meaningless events were done away with, there's way too much repetition that it comes off to me as padding for the sake of padding and too little reward.

This is tedious.

There are a few dozen games on F95 that I enjoy.

There are around seven hundred that I don't play for a lot of reasons.

Maybe it's just me (it isn't), but the thought that I would spend one moment commenting in the forum for any of those seven hundred games seems a bit daft.

But hey, Ce la vie!

Thanks for playing.

 

[Fap2766]

Most of the people in this forum like this game. I beleive that constructive criticism is always productive. This rant is, however, not constructive and an obvious troll attempt.

Suppose that as a child, you loved Easter egg hunts. You probably will like this game.

Maybe as an adult, you never pass up a scavenger hunt. This, my friend is your game.

Maybe, as an adult, you only do scavenger hunts with a map and a cheat sheet or in the company of someone that knows where all the swag is to be found.

In that case this game is not for you. You should find a different hobby.

Life is short. Thanks for playing.

I don't think you can say most people like the game, especially based on the ratings. I get your point about liking the Easter egg hunts, but with those, you get a small reward regularly.

The issue with this game is that the rewards are very repetitive until much later in the game. I've played to the end, and the story does improve a lot (agree the MC is very creepy and unnecessary in telling the story), but a lot of people will give up way before things improving.

It just feels like the dev has padded out the game to make it slow burn rather than keeping it interesting while still have that Easter egg hunt feel to it. Repeating the same scenes over and over again does not make fun, in my eyes.

I really disliked the question sessions for the girls that are invited to the pool party. Without a guide, you are literally guessing what question to ask and resetting progress if you get the wrong one. How is that fun?

The other thing that is sorely missed is a gallery where you can replay specific scenes that you want to see again. Otherwise, you have to have a save for each day then remember what happened in that day that you liked to watch it again.

Overall, I was glad I persevered to the end (it's great to have models that don't have hyper-inflated breasts!) but I think we could agree it's not a VN for everyone.

 

[Shimizu69]

I think the 2.5 rating would disagree with this. Having to guess which room to be in and at what time without a walk through mod is not fun, the silly attempt at locking out saving except on a new day is lame, I get the idea behind it but it's still lame. Hell, even with a walk through mod it's not fun, there's no real story despite the claim of there being a very good one, it's still a boring grind, uninteresting loop for pictures with a grandpa grooming teen girls, I guess on the plus side at least they're not related. The dev is also getting the most out of that one model.

But hey, if you like a mindless, brain dead grind and are a bit of a masochist then this is the game for you.

On the positive side, you can pretty much hold control and skip through most the repetitive, yet required events to advance, you might miss an added picture or two but it's not that big a deal. I've gone a fairly decent way in so far at day 119 but still no where near caught up, this would be much better if it was streamlined and all these meaningless events were done away with, there's way too much repetition that it comes off to me as padding for the sake of padding and too little reward.

Finally someone that isn't a sheep. Thank you for your comment and truthful opinion.

 

[BloodyEntry]

if it wasn't for the walkthrough mod I'd never even attempted to play this game. It would be such a grind until the actual story starts.
Besides that, I really like the models in this game. so very fond of the petite body type (the faces though do look a bit too young... it's kinda ok)
If this game had animations... GOD DAMN!

 

[AbrahamFroman]

I don't think you can say most people like the game, especially based on the ratings. I get your point about liking the Easter egg hunts, but with those, you get a small reward regularly.

The issue with this game is that the rewards are very repetitive until much later in the game. I've played to the end, and the story does improve a lot (agree the MC is very creepy and unnecessary in telling the story), but a lot of people will give up way before things improving.

It just feels like the dev has padded out the game to make it slow burn rather than keeping it interesting while still have that Easter egg hunt feel to it. Repeating the same scenes over and over again does not make fun, in my eyes.

I really disliked the question sessions for the girls that are invited to the pool party. Without a guide, you are literally guessing what question to ask and resetting progress if you get the wrong one. How is that fun?

The other thing that is sorely missed is a gallery where you can replay specific scenes that you want to see again. Otherwise, you have to have a save for each day then remember what happened in that day that you liked to watch it again.

Overall, I was glad I persevered to the end (it's great to have models that don't have hyper-inflated breasts!) but I think we could agree it's not a VN for everyone.

What was described as repetitive, some see as progression. This game is hardly unique in that regard.

For those people new to the game, a scene that repeats without progression generally means you missed something in the dialog or you have reached the end of the progression.

Also, if you like a scene, make a note of the room and time and you can repeat the scene whenever you like.

Much like a gallery.

Alternatively, you could roll back to the beginning of the event and save your special scene.

Rhetorical question: If most people in this forum don't like this game, then why are they here?

 

[Shimizu69]

What was described as repetitive, some see as progression. This game is hardly unique in that regard.

For those people new to the game, a scene that repeats without progression generally means you missed something in the dialog or you have reached the end of the progression.

Also, if you like a scene, make a note of the room and time and you can repeat the scene whenever you like.

Much like a gallery.

Alternatively, you could roll back to the beginning of the event and save your special scene.

Rhetorical question: If most people in this forum don't like this game, then why are they here?

Then answer the question why the ratings on this game are so poor? We are just giving our opinion as are you. Your entitled to yours and we are entitled to ours. By giving negative feedback we hope the author will take a hint and fix what is broken. Its sad when poorly designed games allow someone to make a living. Has society declined so far that we now accept poor work and just accept it. Maybe your one of the people that orders food and when its wrong you just say oh well they tried I'll just eat it anyway. We the people that have spoken out are the opposite and would complain and get the order corrected and then accept it. That is what separates mediocre from great. Just give this some thought.

 

[AbrahamFroman]

Then answer the question why the ratings on this game are so poor? We are just giving our opinion as are you. Your entitled to yours and we are entitled to ours. By giving negative feedback we hope the author will take a hint and fix what is broken. Its sad when poorly designed games allow someone to make a living. Has society declined so far that we now accept poor work and just accept it. Maybe your one of the people that orders food and when its wrong you just say oh well they tried I'll just eat it anyway. We the people that have spoken out are the opposite and would complain and get the order corrected and then accept it. That is what separates mediocre from great. Just give this some thought.

Thank you for answering my rhetorical question with another question. It is sincerely the best laugh I've had today.

I am sympathetic regarding your recent negative encounter with the food service industry. I am curious to know what the expectation was when you sent your order back (not really).

In this regard. restaurant experiences can be analogous to the game experiences on F95. The metaphors are endless, please think of one on you own.

For everyone following this thread, my best advise is to never feed trolls.

Thank you for playing.

 

[Fap2766]

Thank you for answering my rhetorical question with another question. It is sincerely the best laugh I've had today.

I am sympathetic regarding your recent negative encounter with the food service industry. I am curious to know what the expectation was when you sent your order back (not really).

In this regard. restaurant experiences can be analogous to the game experiences on F95. The metaphors are endless, please think of one on you own.

For everyone following this thread, my best advise is to never feed trolls.

Thank you for playing.

You seem to blindly accept the game is perfect, and perhaps in your eyes, it is. However, by making your perfect game, the dev locks out people who will never bother because of the way its designed. You might be happy with that, however I'd be surprised if the dev would be happy limiting the people who would support them on Patreon out of some principle of never listening to feedback.

As to your rhetorical question, not many people are actually "here", but those that are, are either keen to make the game as good as the potential shows (me) or are trolling for fun. Contrary to what you might think, there aren't many trolls - go check out the actually popular VNs for them. A troll wouldn't really waste their time on an unpopular game with limited interest except to those who love a good grind.

Anyway, you clearly aren't interested in engaging constructively to feedback so I wish you the best in grinding away your life.

 

[BoobiesSugoi]

You seem to blindly accept the game is perfect, and perhaps in your eyes, it is. However, by making your perfect game, the dev locks out people who will never bother because of the way its designed. You might be happy with that, however I'd be surprised if the dev would be happy limiting the people who would support them on Patreon out of some principle of never listening to feedback.

As to your rhetorical question, not many people are actually "here", but those that are, are either keen to make the game as good as the potential shows (me) or are trolling for fun. Contrary to what you might think, there aren't many trolls - go check out the actually popular VNs for them. A troll wouldn't really waste their time on an unpopular game with limited interest except to those who love a good grind.

Anyway, you clearly aren't interested in engaging constructively to feedback so I wish you the best in grinding away your life.

Well, constructive feedback looks a bit different into my Eyes, no offense.

If you compare the first 7 updates with the latest 7, then you should agree, that the Game difficulty and "grind aspect" got reduced a lot already. So the Developer is actually listen to the feedback, if it`s reasonable.

In the actual sequel: "My best friend's daughter" you see complete new features and improved game mechanics.
I think it`s very well made and gathers to more casual players. It`s basically more user friendly with more advice and help on how the in Game mechanics work.

When i heard right, all this stared with like only 1 men working on it. So i dunno for what more you could ask?

I find it very sad that people on this Forum, try to insult the work of the Developer, the Game itself and demand so much, without giving anything back. I mean what kind of reasoning is behind that?!

 

[Fap2766]

So i dunno for what more you could ask?

I'm not asking for anything - I'm just challenging the concept that some have on here that this game is somehow perfect and there is nothing wrong with "grind".

It's good the dev is taking a new approach to the other game, which I have played and quite enjoyed. No doubt AbrahamFroman will hate it because there is no grind Easter egg hunt...

 

[dmmt]

Why should we have to tolerate, intolerable grind for 7 updates, to get to a point where the grind suddenly becomes tolerable? Particularly, when the grind was pointed out to the dev early on, and their basic response was...so? this is how I want it to be. Even when other devs demonstrated more efficient means f programming, and thus removing some of the grind, no joy.

I LOVE the girls in this thing. Petite is so grossly under represented in these games, when they are there, we need these titles to work. But when the game is coded such that you (the player MUST be in room "A" at precisely "X" hour on ONLY "XXXXday" in order to advance the progression, and if you miss that one shot at it you are permanently SOL...THAT, is lazy programming.

I sw anther wild clam that "most people on this forum like this game". Ummm, the rating for this game is 2.5. By definition, that means that AT MOST, half the people like it. (Not half the people on the forum, just half of those who bothered with giving it a rating.)

 

[VoidSite]

Rhetorical question: If most people in this forum don't like this game, then why are they here?

You mean like "If you dont like it, then just dont play it and shut up"?

Some of my friends are immigrants. But I don't like Nazis. Should I have just friends from my country then to avoid getting involved in racism?

In Flames (a band) changes from Melodic Death Metal to Pop-Rock in 2006. After I was a fan since 1996. I dont have the right to be mad at them now. Just "dont listen to them if you dont like them"?

Do you zap channels when the news tell you that there is a big fire that burns away thousands of animals and a forest in the size of New York, just because you dislike it?


MAYBE.. just maybe.. you can like something or dislike something and still beeing able to have an opinion that is not: close it.
In this case, i feel fooled by the game mechanics. It is tideus and to much grinding for a game that is on the very flat end of the story telling. The story wouldnt even work for a free-internet porn. So.. I see why much people here have problems. The Work/Reward balance is ... complicated. Because the Dev obviously sees a "the wind lift her skirt" picture as a reward.
But me, as a player, clicked it away before i even saw that the wind does something. For me, there is no reward in seeing "a bit of an buttcheek by accident". I am not that horny that this level of nonsense is working.

But on the other Side, there are reasons for me, playing this just now.
1. Noone looks like a Supermodel. Which is the case in almost all games.
2. Noone looks like a porn-actor. Which is really pissing me of on other games.
3. Boob-sizes are below C-Cup. Makes it probatly the only game on F95 that is not Hentai and has realistic breastsizes. And yes. I like A-C Cups much more then any other above. Makes it a very special and uniqe game here for me.


Also some parts of the game where promising from looking at it from the OT. It was looking like a game where you play an old perv that is creepy and molesting. But it turns out, it was just looking like it. If someone had told me that this is a "be prince charming and mister niceguy or Gameover"-game, i wouldn't even considered to open the thread. That on its own is a point, that forms an opinion for me and make me feel that I need to write it down here.

The only thing, where is absolutely no point I can see, is the "You dont like it, so dont use it"-Mentality.
Espeacily when something like this comes form people that wonder why the TV programm is so crappy, why Politian XY is elected, why this why that. It is probatly because noone sayed something and noone acted, other then "dont use/click/watch/vote/try it" (I dont know you, so you where not ment by the last example, that was more in general.)

And dont worry, I can feel you in some way. When I play a game that has the "rape" or "NTR" tag, then the white-knight-christian fraction is storming it and try to make clear HOW MUCH the dont like it. They even tend to fight with othe F95 members if they not immediatly switch to their opinion. Sometimes it takes some time before a Mod shows up to delete the last 300 pages of the thread because it was just angry hater nonsense. I really pissed by these morons too, when I have a question and they keep spamming endless discussions about the fact that their brain is not able to disconnect reality from fiction.
But that is not happening here. Here, people are just mad because the game looks nice and the mechanic is shit.

 

[VoidSite]

I can't talk to Amy about liza for breakfast. only anyone knows what's wrong?

Hehe.. you already will have seen, that the answer might be:
55/67 or 81/16 or something like that. I have not the slightest Idea what the Numbers mean.
But the whole thread is full of it. So it seems to be something important.

Or just do what the dev is saying in almost every second post: "Go get my WT from Patreon".
I assume that "WT" means "Walkthrough". So if you find a solution there, then be kind and post it here.
Because I would really like to see the answer.

The misterious "click on office often enough and a hint menu will plop up at some time"-Help also tells me I should
talk to Amy about Liza at 8:00 at breakfast. Did that a whole ingame-week long, no word about Liza. Always the same
"Have you slept well? Nice! Going to school like the other 912389 days, yes? Nice! Ahhh.. 14:00 you are back mh? Like all the other days? Nice!"- Talk

 

[Lukumoide]

You mean like "If you dont like it, then just dont play it and shut up"?

Some of my friends are immigrants. But I don't like Nazis. Should I have just friends from my country then to avoid getting involved in racism?

In Flames (a band) changes from Melodic Death Metal to Pop-Rock in 2006. After I was a fan since 1996. I dont have the right to be mad at them now. Just "dont listen to them if you dont like them"?

Do you zap channels when the news tell you that there is a big fire that burns away thousands of animals and a forest in the size of New York, just because you dislike it?


MAYBE.. just maybe.. you can like something or dislike something and still beeing able to have an opinion that is not: close it.
In this case, i feel fooled by the game mechanics. It is tideus and to much grinding for a game that is on the very flat end of the story telling. The story wouldnt even work for a free-internet porn. So.. I see why much people here have problems. The Work/Reward balance is ... complicated. Because the Dev obviously sees a "the wind lift her skirt" picture as a reward.
But me, as a player, clicked it away before i even saw that the wind does something. For me, there is no reward in seeing "a bit of an buttcheek by accident". I am not that horny that this level of nonsense is working.

But on the other Side, there are reasons for me, playing this just now.
1. Noone looks like a Supermodel. Which is the case in almost all games.
2. Noone looks like a porn-actor. Which is really pissing me of on other games.
3. Boob-sizes are below C-Cup. Makes it probatly the only game on F95 that is not Hentai and has realistic breastsizes. And yes. I like A-C Cups much more then any other above. Makes it a very special and uniqe game here for me.


Also some parts of the game where promising from looking at it from the OT. It was looking like a game where you play an old perv that is creepy and molesting. But it turns out, it was just looking like it. If someone had told me that this is a "be prince charming and mister niceguy or Gameover"-game, i wouldn't even considered to open the thread. That on its own is a point, that forms an opinion for me and make me feel that I need to write it down here.

The only thing, where is absolutely no point I can see, is the "You dont like it, so dont use it"-Mentality.
Espeacily when something like this comes form people that wonder why the TV programm is so crappy, why Politian XY is elected, why this why that. It is probatly because noone sayed something and noone acted, other then "dont use/click/watch/vote/try it" (I dont know you, so you where not ment by the last example, that was more in general.)

And dont worry, I can feel you in some way. When I play a game that has the "rape" or "NTR" tag, then the white-knight-christian fraction is storming it and try to make clear HOW MUCH the dont like it. They even tend to fight with othe F95 members if they not immediatly switch to their opinion. Sometimes it takes some time before a Mod shows up to delete the last 300 pages of the thread because it was just angry hater nonsense. I really pissed by these morons too, when I have a question and they keep spamming endless discussions about the fact that their brain is not able to disconnect reality from fiction.
But that is not happening here. Here, people are just mad because the game looks nice and the mechanic is shit.

Personally, I only started supporting the game because of the mechanics. I like games that are challenging. Bob has been very accommodating to all mod users and has eliminated all dead ends. Personally, I would have built in many others to make mods impossible to use. Personally, I can't understand the people who use mods or WT, how can the game still be fun? Each of us can have different opinions and I think it's good that everyone can find something they like. There are people like me (even if it's a minority) who also want to enjoy games. It would be sad if there weren't any games for people who disagree.

 

[AbrahamFroman]

You mean like "If you dont like it, then just dont play it and shut up"?

Some of my friends are immigrants. But I don't like Nazis. Should I have just friends from my country then to avoid getting involved in racism?

In Flames (a band) changes from Melodic Death Metal to Pop-Rock in 2006. After I was a fan since 1996. I dont have the right to be mad at them now. Just "dont listen to them if you dont like them"?

Do you zap channels when the news tell you that there is a big fire that burns away thousands of animals and a forest in the size of New York, just because you dislike it?


MAYBE.. just maybe.. you can like something or dislike something and still beeing able to have an opinion that is not: close it.
In this case, i feel fooled by the game mechanics. It is tideus and to much grinding for a game that is on the very flat end of the story telling. The story wouldnt even work for a free-internet porn. So.. I see why much people here have problems. The Work/Reward balance is ... complicated. Because the Dev obviously sees a "the wind lift her skirt" picture as a reward.
But me, as a player, clicked it away before i even saw that the wind does something. For me, there is no reward in seeing "a bit of an buttcheek by accident". I am not that horny that this level of nonsense is working.

But on the other Side, there are reasons for me, playing this just now.
1. Noone looks like a Supermodel. Which is the case in almost all games.
2. Noone looks like a porn-actor. Which is really pissing me of on other games.
3. Boob-sizes are below C-Cup. Makes it probatly the only game on F95 that is not Hentai and has realistic breastsizes. And yes. I like A-C Cups much more then any other above. Makes it a very special and uniqe game here for me.


Also some parts of the game where promising from looking at it from the OT. It was looking like a game where you play an old perv that is creepy and molesting. But it turns out, it was just looking like it. If someone had told me that this is a "be prince charming and mister niceguy or Gameover"-game, i wouldn't even considered to open the thread. That on its own is a point, that forms an opinion for me and make me feel that I need to write it down here.

The only thing, where is absolutely no point I can see, is the "You dont like it, so dont use it"-Mentality.
Espeacily when something like this comes form people that wonder why the TV programm is so crappy, why Politian XY is elected, why this why that. It is probatly because noone sayed something and noone acted, other then "dont use/click/watch/vote/try it" (I dont know you, so you where not ment by the last example, that was more in general.)

And dont worry, I can feel you in some way. When I play a game that has the "rape" or "NTR" tag, then the white-knight-christian fraction is storming it and try to make clear HOW MUCH the dont like it. They even tend to fight with othe F95 members if they not immediatly switch to their opinion. Sometimes it takes some time before a Mod shows up to delete the last 300 pages of the thread because it was just angry hater nonsense. I really pissed by these morons too, when I have a question and they keep spamming endless discussions about the fact that their brain is not able to disconnect reality from fiction.
But that is not happening here. Here, people are just mad because the game looks nice and the mechanic is shit.

Many people don't understand the concept of the rhetorical question.

I blame public schools.

Thanks for playing.

 

[dmmt]

Many people don't understand the concept of the rhetorical question.

I blame public schools.

I blame home schooling

 

[Deleted member 299540]

Just look at his smile in the beginning. It's hilarious! And the hint: "Don't be a pervent" just catch my eye. It's funny. Something like: "If you're playing this game you ARE a pervent."

Upd: Or that girl ^_^

UPD: Now i'm reading some lecture about sculptures of the Olympian gods.

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Well... i guess so many people just don't like such complications in adult game. Something like search for girl or see a full walkthrough with numbers is pretty annoying. I'll use Amy locator it's simple and working with v16 (just search in comments of that mode). I want to relax here not take notes.
Use F1 to save when you want it.
I don't understand the developer's idea. How can i understand that to get event with towel i need to open bathroom without knocking while the game tells me to knock everywhere?

 

[Fap2766]

I see on Patreon, the dev has revamped it so it's much less grind but also decided to try to lock down the updates to Patreons only. Fair enough, but I think any chance of this game getting exposure and new Patreons supporting are pretty much dead in the water now. Same with their other game. Shame.

 

[Celaviegroup]

I see on Patreon, the dev has revamped it so it's much less grind but also decided to try to lock down the updates to Patreons only. Fair enough, but I think any chance of this game getting exposure and new Patreons supporting are pretty much dead in the water now. Same with their other game. Shame.

You're wrong.
The game will be public at same time as it will be available for my supporters in case that no one share the game before public release date. If the game will stay behind the "walls" until that day - I'll even support players here at F95. So far I've only been able to succeed a couple of times.