CutieLvr

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Counterpoint - Making it known to the developer that you USED to like their game, and that you think the AI images SIGNIFICANTLY lower the quality of the overall product, is really the only way you can make your opinion heard, and MAYBE cause change. Sure, there will probably always be some devs who will use AI, and a lot of them will continue to farm out garbage - that's nothing new, stolen asset games were around 20 years ago. But this is a game that didn't use AI, and people really liked the art it had, and c'mon man, what is a forum for if not to express your opinions about something.

We get it, you don't care about the change. Clearly a lot of people care about it. So, how about instead of complaining about people complaining, why don't you accept it or find another game?
Your freedom to express yourself is fine, and I have that same freedom. All I'm saying is you're beating a dead horse. Nuff said.
 

tacosnap123

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Might be wrong on this but my understanding is that the devs didn't actually make the gallery and instead someone made a mod for the game a long time ago that included a gallery at the specific version of the game. The devs then went and added the gallery directly into the game instead of making their own which created a bunch of problems especially since the gallery wasn't really updated for the new versions that came after. Then instead of fixing it they've just been trying to patch it as time went on.


To be fair the game wasn't exactly "complete" when it was completed in my opinion and instead a rushed ending was simply made and then a bunch of loose ends got left behind. The plan at the time was probably either to ditch the project for something new or maybe make a sequal in the future. However most of the patrons were invested in this game and not so much in the new games so they added new stuff to this game sporadically while working on other projects which left the game in a both unfinished state and very buggy. Then they released the so called "final version" that would be the last update to add stuff and fix all the problems. However the game was and still is very buggy so a lot of backers are still complaining about it.
does that also include areasn you can see on the map but not viset
 

CyberCy616

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Ok I want to know are the subclasses your followers can now get any good I don't what to get the new version because I just got to ACT 2 and don't want to start over just to try them myself so are they any good i.e help make combat a bit faster?
 

hgffdh

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I havent played this game in years. I've found a post from 2020 recounting that you can only get pregnant once per race by humans, elves, orcs, minotaur, wolf and a dragon. Did anything new get added since? Did they make pregnancies repeatable?
 

MuleCurse

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The whole AI thing is only going to get bigger, it aint going away anytime soon if ever.
I have my doubts. It's a scam technology done by companies not comp. scientists. AI is already starting to get retarded from learning off older AI prompts. AI isn't getting better. It's getting worse. Basically scraping isn't just illegal. It's dumb. :KEK:
 

Avaron1974

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I have my doubts. It's a scam technology done by companies not comp. scientists. AI is already starting to get retarded from learning off older AI prompts. AI isn't getting better. It's getting worse. Basically scraping isn't just illegal. It's dumb. :KEK:
I said it will get bigger not better.

People spend hundreds to thousands a year on useless shit especially when it comes to gamers. If people are willing to buy VR that's basically an expensive paperweight once the novelty wears off then they will spend money on stuff created by AI.
 
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Loktahar

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AI ethics stuff aside, someone tell me they are at least doing some post-work on the AI art itself. Like fixing some issues and colouring certain pieces properly. It has come to cycle in AI art that there are good AI art and shit ones. Tell me at least its the good ones.
 
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So I've had that game in my list for a while now and tested it early on (long time ago), but now i got to ask. We can choose the starting gender, but what is the ratio per gender ? From what i see there is no gay tag, so i assume the Male MC don't get dicked down, but is there still monsters that will engage with him ? Or is he safe from it ? (not really interested in Male MC getting that kind of attention).
Basically what i want to know is which starting gender would get the most "fun" ? I see a futa tag but not a futa protag tag. So would it be better to be a Male MC that can get all the girls ? or a female MC that can get guys(?) and girls (lesbian tag) ?
Are there actually any "monster on FMC" content ?
 

Avelait

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AI ethics stuff aside, someone tell me they are at least doing some post-work on the AI art itself. Like fixing some issues and colouring certain pieces properly. It has come to cycle in AI art that there are good AI art and shit ones. Tell me at least its the good ones.
The only good thing when it comes to AI "art" in this game is that (so far) the devs haven't added more of it.
The "good" AI pics are only like that because the devs fed a good art piece for AI to take a steaming dump all over. Why? I couldn't tell you. One would assume that the devs have the original, high res versions of those pics, so there was no need for AI "upscale".
The bad ones though? Literally zero work have been done to correct AI fuckups, even the extremely obvious ones.
 
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So I've had that game in my list for a while now and tested it early on (long time ago), but now i got to ask. We can choose the starting gender, but what is the ratio per gender ? From what i see there is no gay tag, so i assume the Male MC don't get dicked down, but is there still monsters that will engage with him ? Or is he safe from it ? (not really interested in Male MC getting that kind of attention).
Basically what i want to know is which starting gender would get the most "fun" ? I see a futa tag but not a futa protag tag. So would it be better to be a Male MC that can get all the girls ? or a female MC that can get guys(?) and girls (lesbian tag) ?
Are there actually any "monster on FMC" content ?
MMC can be dicked and even few gay scenes in game, but all of them are avoidable, depends on ur choise only. MMC is more like harem and FMC has more bestiality, gangbang, monster etc content
 
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MMC can be dicked and even few gay scenes in game, but all of them are avoidable, depends on ur choise only. MMC is more like harem and FMC has more bestiality, gangbang, monster etc content
Oh ok, nice. Thank you for the intel. Now i can dive in without feeling like i might have made a mistake and enjoy the story to its full extent.;)
 
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halluva

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Looking at the guide, it seems that some companions like Ruksana have "corruption" endings that seem very evil, but at the same time the things that generate corruption for those characters are just sex. Ruksana's is even explicitly anything that is
submissive". Am I reading that right? It seems strange to conflate "corruption" in the porn sense with "corruption" in the morality sense.
 
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Itumaak

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Oh, boy. My love-hate relationship with that game just keeps growing.

I can't even say what I hate most about it.

The incomplete features they don't add, even though they say they will again, again and again?
The fact they use that fugly bimbo art style that kills all individuality the characters have?
That characters don't look the same in all the scenes they have?
The audacity to use AI, after they drew stuff by hand for more than 9 years and make more than 10'000 USD a month on Patreon since years?
The lead dev who doesn't give a shit about opinions, other than that of the boot lickers on his discord, who agree with everything he says and does?
The price for their patreaon and the fact you get almost nothing for it?

Still, what I do like is how sex is being treated here. No bullshit like "No, I am still a virgin!" "It hurs, please stop!" "You want this too, stop lying." "Uah, this is dirty..." It's a huge fuckfest and I like that. I wish more games had a positive attitude to sex and no trash like hesitation or corruption or guilt.
Well and Kat. She really tickles all the right places for me, even though I don't even like most of her scenes. Luckily every scene in the game is optional.
Anyway, I loved 2.4, was somewhat okayish with 4.8 and hated 6.0. Sonner or later I will play it again, the qustion is only if I can get some joy out of it or go completely ballistic.

Now why I even made that post, besides ranting.

The main issue with your counterpoint is the devs of this don't come here so they won't ever read your issues with the AI art.
Nope, the devs were here several times already. He was Deleted member 1238938, you can search this thread for him.
He also complained on his discord after the release of 6.0 about how awful this site is and how ungrateful its people are. As you can see he deleted his account here. Arvus doesn't take critisism, throws everybody who does so out of his discord but still reads f95 only to get pissed. Even the fact people do things like adding back the hand drawn art simply gets ignored. Kaliyo just doesn't give a shit about the people who play the games of his studio, Arvus Games, and have ideas on how to make the game better or simply ask about stuff that was promised. The lead Kaliyo is always late, breakes promises and is overall just childish, completely unfit to have the position he has. Well, thanks for the good time I had with 2.4 anyway, I guess. And reading this thread now and then does kill a decent amount of time when I am bored at work.
 
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