VN Ren'Py Abandoned Second Girl's Happiness [Ch. 4] [Obrecht13]

[AmerHST]

I haven't played this yet, but I'm downloading now because I've had so much fun reading people being so distraught by this game. It's like many people have never seen a girl in their lives. There are many types of girls in the world with different ambitions, but to think that like 30 guys on this Thread were so bothered by strong women that know what they want (regardless of motives/morals) reveals more about them than the game. I can't wait to play this, based on what the Dev Obrecht13 has said, it seems to be in great hands. As long as it avoids NTR, I'm with this game till death.

I'll let you know what I think

What strong women? I didn't see any, Where are they? if by strong women you mean women who wanted to ditch a guy not wanting to even be his friends then when he becomes rich not only do they want to be friends again but they also want to fuck him then sure they are very strong women... SMH

 

[ZagorTeNay]

Strange game. I really like the idea behind it, but seems odd how author decided to "structure it". Like it skips through most relevant plot/character development points.
Imo, it would be way more interesting/logical if it went something like this:
1. Player and girls introduction, backstory, scenes from the past
2. "Humiliation part"...they ditch MC, find other boy/friends, he becomes depressed, isolates himself, etc. Unavoidable NTR ( or whatever goes here for NTR...but it's important for story here)
3. He pulls himself out, starts developing his project, becomes rich, more confident, re-enters social circle ( now everyone throwing themselves at him)
Then the story proceeds, similar as is now. Do you want to humiliate, use them, forgiveness or friendship route, focus on one girl, someone else, harem, etc. Classic "life in city" story, all the drama, MC portrayed as someone who is really cunning.
As it is, it's hard to really give a damn about any of characters (

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Feels like this could have far more depth otherwise.

 

[Mauser45]

It's almost like I mentioned that in the comment YOU responded to. I'm not the one that got triggered by what I said okay? You did. By the way, I'm not saying these are likable characters.

I don't know what point you're trying to make. The comments above mine summarise it clearly. Forget "triggered" - you haven't even played the game yet you seem to think yourself something of an expert on it...and somehow something of an expert on why people dislike it

Excellent job passing the buck, though

 

[AmerHST]

Strange game. I really like the idea behind it, but seems odd how author decided to "structure it". Like it skips through most relevant plot/character development points.
Imo, it would be way more interesting/logical if it went something like this:
1. Player and girls introduction, backstory, scenes from the past
2. "Humiliation part"...they ditch MC, find other boy/friends, he becomes depressed, isolates himself, etc. Unavoidable NTR ( or whatever goes here for NTR...but it's important for story here)
3. He pulls himself out, starts developing his project, becomes rich, more confident, re-enters social circle ( now everyone throwing themselves at him)
Then the story proceeds, similar as is now. Do you want to humiliate, use them, forgiveness or friendship route, focus on one girl, someone else, harem, etc. Classic "life in city" story, all the drama, MC portrayed as someone who is really cunning.
As it is, it's hard to really give a damn about any of characters (

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Feels like this could have far more depth otherwise.

The problem isn't really the MC since the author wants him to start as a "loser" with no confidence then change over time into someone who is more confident and assertive which I think is a great idea for the story but the problem is the girls, none of them are likable or redeemable in anyway so what's the point? he either needs to rework them or add other girls so the MC can go for them instead.

Right now the story is not playable for me(and a lot of other people here) because not a single girl is worth it which is a shame because I actually like the idea of the story.

 

[JoleenStar]

I played through the game, but I didn't really care for any of the girls?

If I was him I would 100% fuck them all and then move on with my life, but that's just me.

 

[Glooskabe]

I played through the game, but I didn't really care for any of the girls?

If I was him I would 100% fuck them all and then move on with my life, but that's just me.

From chatting with the Dev a bit, I kind of suspect that that or something like it may be an option...

 

[eddie987]

From chatting with the Dev a bit, I kind of suspect that that or something like it may be an option...

It would be funny if you'd get the option for the MC to throw a "party" at the same cafe, just to let them know that he's going to cut them out of his life... For their own good of course!

 

[ZagorTeNay]

The problem isn't really the MC since the author wants him to start as a "loser" with no confidence then change over time into someone who is more confident and assertive which I think is a great idea for the story but the problem is the girls, none of them are likable or redeemable in anyway so what's the point? he either needs to rework them or add other girls so the MC can go for them instead.

Right now the story is not playable for me(and a lot of other people here) because not a single girl is worth it which is a shame because I actually like the idea of the story.

I'm on the fence with Kendra and Emily ( they at least seem regretful of how they've treated MC), and "confidence part" is very much true ( women are biologically attracted to confidence and wealth, same way as guys always notice looks first). But Katrina and Gianna can go fuck themselves. It makes you gag how transparent they are at sleezing up to MC. ( he may as well order an escort, would probably also end up saving some money)
But the whole game would be better of without trip to Havaii ( so MC cancels it, after he hears from Kendra), and take it a bit slower with character/relationship building. This is something that would fit better in final updates.

 

[MrFriendly]

I just finished playing chapter 2 of this game after I quit halfway through the first chapter because I hated every single character(especially Katrina) and after playing chapter 2 I still hate every character.

I'm still going to keep an eye on the game but it seems like you are going to be forced into fucking every character without any choice. This has got to be one of the few porn VNs that makes me want a choice to play as a celibate monk and refuse all sexual content with the possible LIs in the game.

I don't get why after rejecting Katrina's plan because you want to improve your friendship with the girls you are forced into sexual content with them. This is especially prevalent with the Emily scene in the shower after calling her out for taking advantage of you you end up eating her pussy why don't you get the choice to tell her to leave instead.

Yeah, the entire set up of this game feels more like a kinetic novel in terms of giving the player any real choice, the MC is so weak willed when it comes to these women, as if being pretty on the outside would excuse how terrible they are as friends. I get that the MC is going to go on vacation with these girls whether we (players) want to or not. That's fine, I am not going to argue that the Dev should completely change the game and get rid of all the women they rendered.

However, the player should, at minimum, be able to decide who the MC fucks. Especially after telling Katrina that you don't want a harem. Yet even with that conversation taking place the MC still eats pussy (even after telling Emily that he isn't going to let her use him), gets a blowjob, and a standing 69 with these two faced gold diggers. I understand that these are supposedly his closest friends and that he's had a thing for them forever, doesn't mean that he should then disregard how he is feeling betrayed and taken advantage of and continue to spend money and time on them. The MC has no reason to trust a single word that comes out of their mouths after finding out that they never really liked him and were just using him for their own gains. Yet he still is like a dog begging at the dinner table when it comes to fucking any of them.

I would love a path in this game where the MC tells the women to fuck off and then they have to watch as he brings woman after woman back to the villa to fuck. Let them regret their choices and actions. Unfortunately this game, though it has a lot of amazing graphics, is not going to give the player a chance to make choices that impact the overall story and that is really disappointing.

Sign me up for the "keeping an eye on it until we get a monk route or an ability to turn down every single one of these gold digging "friends"".

 

[Glooskabe]

Especially after telling Katrina that you don't want a harem.

Nitpicking, but probably wise to nip incorrect information in the bud. He doesn't say he doesn't want a harem. He says he doesn't want Katrina orchestrating a harem for him. In other words, he prefers to go it alone. Whether he pursues a harem on his own is left unsaid for the moment... but it certainly looks like he CAN do so if the player decides...

 

[MrFriendly]

Nitpicking, but probably wise to nip incorrect information in the bud. He doesn't say he doesn't want a harem. He says he doesn't want Katrina orchestrating a harem for him. In other words, he prefers to go it alone. Whether he pursues a harem on his own is left unsaid for the moment... but it certainly looks like he CAN do so if the player decides...

Yeah, that is nitpicking, LOL, but that's fine.

Personally I don't want a harem that includes any or all of those women in any capacity. Garbage personalities but beautiful bodies are not worth having to deal with... And the player doesn't get to make any decisions in terms of who is or isn't a sexual partner or included in a potential harem. All of these "friends" are still hanging around like the leeches they are, the MC still ends up eating pussy and receiving a blowjob from two/three of them even if the player doesn't want to have anything to do with them. <shrug> Would be a better game if the MC wasn't such a weakling.

 

[kameohawk]

Gotta say.... I thought this looked interesting to have a go at but literally the first scene put me right the hell off. We spend about 5 minutes listening to how everyone hates the MC and would be better not even being friends with him anymore....and then I can't hear any more of the dialogue from the sound of panties hitting the floor after they find out how rich he is. Like... what? Does the dev think that's an attractive thing in a woman? For them to be catty and only want a guy for their money?

I didn't misread that right? That's what happened right? Everyone of those girls basically bad mouthed him and was all "we can make this a party not for his game but for moving on".

Like... if I wanted to get bad mouthed behind my back only to see a lassie plaster a fake smile on their face when I turned up then I'd phone my ex....

 

[kameohawk]

Literally the only reason I'm tempted to keep going after the first scene is to see more of the absolute BEAUTIFUL specimen that the barman is rocking on his upper lip. Go on yourself lad! Own it.

 

[Rinbael]

Yeah, the entire set up of this game feels more like a kinetic novel in terms of giving the player any real choice, the MC is so weak willed when it comes to these women, as if being pretty on the outside would excuse how terrible they are as friends. I get that the MC is going to go on vacation with these girls whether we (players) want to or not. That's fine, I am not going to argue that the Dev should completely change the game and get rid of all the women they rendered.

However, the player should, at minimum, be able to decide who the MC fucks. Especially after telling Katrina that you don't want a harem. Yet even with that conversation taking place the MC still eats pussy (even after telling Emily that he isn't going to let her use him), gets a blowjob, and a standing 69 with these two faced gold diggers. I understand that these are supposedly his closest friends and that he's had a thing for them forever, doesn't mean that he should then disregard how he is feeling betrayed and taken advantage of and continue to spend money and time on them. The MC has no reason to trust a single word that comes out of their mouths after finding out that they never really liked him and were just using him for their own gains. Yet he still is like a dog begging at the dinner table when it comes to fucking any of them.

I would love a path in this game where the MC tells the women to fuck off and then they have to watch as he brings woman after woman back to the villa to fuck. Let them regret their choices and actions. Unfortunately this game, though it has a lot of amazing graphics, is not going to give the player a chance to make choices that impact the overall story and that is really disappointing.

Sign me up for the "keeping an eye on it until we get a monk route or an ability to turn down every single one of these gold digging "friends"".

I'm just hoping that Aili and Rachel the maid are possible LIs and you can completely reject anymore scenes with the four gold diggers but it doesn't seem like that will be the case so far. I mean Kendra is talking about how she wants to give the MC her virginity I just hope you get the option to tell her to keep it cause your not interested.

I agree that it seems to be more like a kinetic novel so far. I understand that it's the dev's first game but it's irritating not having a choice about who you want to bang. One of my biggest pet peeves with these kind of games is unavoidable sexual content and so far it seems like that won't change.

 

[MrFriendly]

I'm just hoping that Aili and Rachel the maid are possible LIs and you can completely reject anymore scenes with the four gold diggers but it doesn't seem like that will be the case so far. I mean Kendra is talking about how she wants to give the MC her virginity I just hope you get the option to tell her to keep it cause your not interested.

I agree that it seems to be more like a kinetic novel so far. I understand that it's the dev's first game but it's irritating not having a choice about who you want to bang. One of my biggest pet peeves with these kind of games is unavoidable sexual content and so far it seems like that won't change.

I want to be understanding about the fact that it is the dev's first game but at the same time if they are familiar with the genre they should know that giving people the ability to refuse sex or choose who the MC fucks is a basic ask from the community. If they want to make a kinetic novel they should do it but as it stands a visual novel/game should let the player have some input into what happens.

Lack of choice when it comes to who the MC fucks is my biggest pet peeve with these games, easily. I can put up with a lot of other things but being unable to refuse someone, especially someone who has a toxic personality, is a big turn off for me.

 

[Rinbael]

I want to be understanding about the fact that it is the dev's first game but at the same time if they are familiar with the genre they should know that giving people the ability to refuse sex or choose who the MC fucks is a basic ask from the community. If they want to make a kinetic novel they should do it but as it stands a visual novel/game should let the player have some input into what happens.

Lack of choice when it comes to who the MC fucks is my biggest pet peeve with these games, easily. I can put up with a lot of other things but being unable to refuse someone, especially someone who has a toxic personality, is a big turn off for me.

I completely agree with you if I was in the dev's shoes I would probably make this a kinetic novel with the femdom path since people seem to like that aspect of the game, it's personally not my kink but it would be a good way to learn how to use Daz and renpy without making it harder on yourself with different choices. Though the game is still incredibly new so it might be able to change further down the line so I won't write the game off completely yet.

 

[ZagorTeNay]

Gotta say.... I thought this looked interesting to have a go at but literally the first scene put me right the hell off. We spend about 5 minutes listening to how everyone hates the MC and would be better not even being friends with him anymore....and then I can't hear any more of the dialogue from the sound of panties hitting the floor after they find out how rich he is. Like... what? Does the dev think that's an attractive thing in a woman? For them to be catty and only want a guy for their money?

I didn't misread that right? That's what happened right? Everyone of those girls basically bad mouthed him and was all "we can make this a party not for his game but for moving on".

Like... if I wanted to get bad mouthed behind my back only to see a lassie plaster a fake smile on their face when I turned up then I'd phone my ex....

He was "friend-zoned" by all the girls, who didn't really respect him ( as a man), while he was still infatuated with them and never "moved on". So they decided they needed to distance themselves from him. Harsh, but some could see this a "tough love". I liked the dialogue with Kendra about it ( and it really wasn't in her interest to tell him).
But instantly switching from that to "Hey, you're a millionaire and now we're really interested in you", really leaves a sour impression. ( and you don't really know anything about characters before that...so it's hard in any way to sympathize with them). And it makes MC look like a fool ( which he is not) if he simply goes along with it.
I guess this could still be a good domination game, but the plot would be far more engaging if there was a slower build up to it. So you see MC slowly build up confidence, change his appearance, re-build relationship with the girls, gain some experience...instead of moving at high speed with sex party at Havaii( where they are already one step away from having orgies)
Strange, but it kind of reminds me of Last of Us II/Abby...writers decided to build her as a character/show her background after they made sure most players would absolutely hate her character ( same with other members of her group). And at point most people simply didn't give a damn about it.

 

[AmerHST]

I'm on the fence with Kendra and Emily ( they at least seem regretful of how they've treated MC), and "confidence part" is very much true ( women are biologically attracted to confidence and wealth, same way as guys always notice looks first). But Katrina and Gianna can go fuck themselves. It makes you gag how transparent they are at sleezing up to MC. ( he may as well order an escort, would probably also end up saving some money)
But the whole game would be better of without trip to Havaii ( so MC cancels it, after he hears from Kendra), and take it a bit slower with character/relationship building. This is something that would fit better in final updates.

"confidence part" is very much true ( women are biologically attracted to confidence and wealth, same way as guys always notice looks first)." I 100% agree with you but the problem is not that they didn't want to date him because he lacked both confidence and wealth(which is fair) but the fact that they treated him like shit and didn't even want to be his friends or be anywhere near him really then after he got money(he didn't even have any confidence at that point) they all changed their mind .

 

[Wildbill5150]

Needs ntr tag? It is avoidable though!!
Let me explain if you take Katrina's offer to HELP MC she takes Gina upstairs for a Full sex scene then sends the mc the cuck video, next day on beach with Gina even though mc has her jewelry nothing happens no nude pics no 30sec bj so katrina helps mc get nothing she cucked you and Gina doesn't do anything because she belongs to katrina now not mc.

If you turn down katrina she will help mc by telling him about Gina's jewelry and next day on the beach Gina will take nude photos for mc and mc gets about a 30-40sec blowjob and just like many ntr games only the person that cucks you gets a full sex scene immediately mc only gets full sex scene after 5-6th update so yeah mc only gets 30-40sec blowjob??

Classic ntr if Katrina's name was steve or karl this game would already have the tag at least the ntr is avoidable! That path is after all Katrina's harem mc even says she gets to fuck Gina 1st something like maybe I can have threesome with them SOMEDAY.
During Katrina's whole offer to be your 1st girl and sleep with the other girls 1st she never offers to sleep with mc?? Because she's cucking him and wants to take control of the other girls that way she has control over mc!!

Just because it's a female doing the cucking/ntr still needs tag guidelines on this site at least says ntr can be done by a male or a female and katrina is definitely trying to take the girls out from under you otherwise she would have helped you with Gina or if her powers of manipulation are so good why not let mc join her and Gina??? I mean it is THIER harem right??? But no Gina and katrina barely even talk to mc rest of the update??
Katrina also shows no affection to mc all the others do but not her even if you agree to her being your 1st girl and take her offer??

Thank you for your time
I for one will never accept Katrina's offer after I finished this update I went back to an earlier save because I was curious if my hunch was right and yes it was just like I had said in an earlier comment.
So my main game will always be to turn her down! Hm curious how many players actually took her offer??

Great game though if the dev keeps going like this and keeps the content well some what balanced wish mc would've gotten a full sex scene also, but will see how it goes at least it sounds like we maybe getting one next update with the date with best girl outta the group or at least most honest one so far but have to wait and see?? If next update stays good I will subscribe and support this game!!

 

[eddie987]

Needs ntr tag? It is avoidable though!!
Let me explain if you take Katrina's offer to HELP MC she takes Gina upstairs for a Full sex scene then sends the mc the cuck video, next day on beach with Gina even though mc has her jewelry nothing happens no nude pics no 30sec bj so katrina helps mc get nothing she cucked you and Gina doesn't do anything because she belongs to katrina now not mc.

If you turn down katrina she will help mc by telling him about Gina's jewelry and next day on the beach Gina will take nude photos for mc and mc gets about a 30-40sec blowjob and just like many ntr games only the person that cucks you gets a full sex scene immediately mc only gets full sex scene after 5-6th update so yeah mc only gets 30-40sec blowjob??

Classic ntr if Katrina's name was steve or karl this game would already have the tag at least the ntr is avoidable! That path is after all Katrina's harem mc even says she gets to fuck Gina 1st something like maybe I can have threesome with them SOMEDAY.
During Katrina's whole offer to be your 1st girl and sleep with the other girls 1st she never offers to sleep with mc?? Because she's cucking him and wants to take control of the other girls that way she has control over mc!!

Just because it's a female doing the cucking/ntr still needs tag guidelines on this site at least says ntr can be done by a male or a female and katrina is definitely trying to take the girls out from under you otherwise she would have helped you with Gina or if her powers of manipulation are so good why not let mc join her and Gina??? I mean it is THIER harem right??? But no Gina and katrina barely even talk to mc rest of the update??
Katrina also shows no affection to mc all the others do but not her even if you agree to her being your 1st girl and take her offer??

Thank you for your time
I for one will never accept Katrina's offer after I finished this update I went back to an earlier save because I was curious if my hunch was right and yes it was just like I had said in an earlier comment.
So my main game will always be to turn her down! Hm curious how many players actually took her offer??

Great game though if the dev keeps going like this and keeps the content well some what balanced wish mc would've gotten a full sex scene also, but will see how it goes at least it sounds like we maybe getting one next update with the date with best girl outta the group or at least most honest one so far but have to wait and see?? If next update stays good I will subscribe and support this game!!

It's not NTR because the MC agrees with her seducing the girls, so it's not supposed to cause any jealousy. Other than that, if the scene is like you described it (I don't intend to play "Katrina's bitch" path, not even out of curiosity, so I'll just have to take your word for it) some people probably loved it, but for others (me included) it definitely sounds like cuckolding. It's not the first time I've seen the "I banged the girl you've been flirting with, but if I send you a video of it, you should find it hot" trope being used in a game and since it's girl on girl everyone has to like it or find it playful, but that's a different story for a different thread...

The thing is, if you choose to let her seduce the girls, you're basically asking for something like that. I don't think that path will get more love from the dev (Katrina has a scene with Gianna in that path, the MC has a scene with her in the other), though it's too early to tell for sure, but I've already said (right after the first release) that Katrina's offer sounds more like she wants to build a harem for herself and she's willing to give the MC some access to it (if not making him a part of it too...), if he's a good boy of course, rather than building a harem together. I know, she's more experienced and being a manipulative bitch is always a plus in these type of situations, so it makes sense for her to have some kind of an upper hand, but like you said she could have easily involved the MC too if she wanted to or at least give him a little something to seal their "partnership".

Anyway, at this point I'm more interested to see if the new girls are going to get more screen time in the next update and if there are more of them to be introduced in the near future.