VN Ren'Py Abandoned Second Girl's Happiness [Ch. 4] [Obrecht13]

[Naxos]

Yeah, not sure about the maid yet, she doesn't sound too loyal when talking about her BF and then walking in on MC and Kendra, seems like she's ready to stray

Will be interesting if the surfing lessons happen to see how the girls react to Rachael's BF with MC there and as with Kat she was more tolerable this chapter, though it does seem like she's just biding her time and waiting to strike

Indeed, plus she was pretty quick to get undressed for that movie and the way her bf is ignoring her, she might want to stray sooner than later. Plus if she finds out he's the creator of the game she might fuck him as payback to her bf... "you want to ignore me for a game, i'll fuck the creator of it then!"

 

[mistwolf_2k]

Indeed, plus she was pretty quick to get undressed for that movie and the way her bf is ignoring her, she might want to stray sooner than later.

To be fair....if anyone had those other 2 hotties trying to coax them out of their clothes in addition to being attracted to the MC, I am surprised the clothes stayed on that long. Just because she is "trying" to be good, doesn't mean she is succeeding all that well.

 

[Glooskabe]

The thing is this was not intended to be a femdom game, sure it has a femdom aspect in it with one of the girls BUT it was always meant to be a zero to hero harem game.

Source for this assertion? Has the Dev said this somewhere?

 

[mistwolf_2k]

Source for this assertion? Has the Dev said this somewhere?

From Obrecht

One of the girls will see if she can dominate you and it will be one of the routes of the game, but not the main one.

There will also be a choice right at the beginning of chapter 2 that will determine if she will seduce or dominate (or neither) the other girls as well.

 

[Glooskabe]

From Obrecht

One of the girls will see if she can dominate you and it will be one of the routes of the game, but not the main one.

There will also be a choice right at the beginning of chapter 2 that will determine if she will seduce or dominate (or neither) the other girls as well.

Yes, I've seen this. However, I read this as confirming a Femdom route was always intended which would make it a Femdom game. Perhaps the person I quoted intended to say it isn't primarily a Femdom game which I would absolutely agree with.

 

[mistwolf_2k]

Yes, I've seen this. However, I read this as confirming a Femdom route was always intended which would make it a Femdom game. Perhaps the person I quoted intended to say it isn't primarily a Femdom game which I would absolutely agree with.

Yup, not sure how far the content would go but it seems to be a possible path. Not that I can get behind behind being dominated, but someone somewhere likes it, so all good lol.

 

[AmerHST]

Yes, I've seen this. However, I read this as confirming a Femdom route was always intended which would make it a Femdom game. Perhaps the person I quoted intended to say it isn't primarily a Femdom game which I would absolutely agree with.

Yes like I said "sure it has a femdom aspect in it with one of the girls BUT it was always meant to be a zero to hero harem game" there is one girl who you can have a femdom type of relationship with but that's only 1 route.

The game is about a guy who starts out shy and awkward and gains confidence overtime and get his "harem".

 

[Incest games fan]

That woman is the mother of Life with Pleasure game

 

[Ninjaman2]

With the money this MC is spending on these girls he could've payed a lot of prostitutes. Cause the only thing he will get from them is sex anyway cause feelings these bitches don't have.

I get the idea that you dislike the concept of femdom.

 

[Brawnstar]

OK so after the girls are introduced my first thoughts are that these thots are completely irredeemable but honestly after awhile my opinion has changed and now I think that Kendra is the only irredeemable one.

Katrina comes across as the least golddiggery of the bunch. Her interest in the MC seems more based on the fact that he was successful than a desire to leach off of him (non femdom path, don't know about the femdom path).

Emily is probably initially the worst as far as golddiggerness goes but if MC calls her on her BS she apologizes and seems to accept she was acting like shit.

Gianna seems to just go with the flow and seems to have the weakest relationship with the MC to begin with. She also seems to accept that she treated him badly and wants to make amends.

But Kendra....Kendra is the MCs childhood friend but has been pretty shit to him the past few years. It is her that suggests the girls end their friendship with him. Some people think that her revealing this to the MC makes her better but the fact that she omits that it was her idea and tries to act like they all decided this make her much worse imo. As soon as she finds out he is rich she does a complete 180, being affectionate with the MC and acting as if she is behaving normally. She NEVER ONCE apologizes for her behavior despite claiming that she did in her stupid hula dance, where she claims she always had feelings for him despite you know BEING THE ONE THAT CONVINCED EVERYONE TO END THEIR FRIENDSHIPS WITH HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE. I dunno if she is gaslighting the MC or the dev actually forgot that they hadn't had her apologize or that they said she had been cold to him for years.

So while I do think the dev managed to right alot of the wrongs with 3 of the 4 girls Kendra is still a pos.

 

[Wills747]

Hi all, My unofficial Android port of Second Girls Happiness CH3
compressed and usual gestures etc.
Mega

Updated my Android Port, there may be a WT etc mod later...

 

[Naxos]

OK so after the girls are introduced my first thoughts are that these thots are completely irredeemable but honestly after awhile my opinion has changed and now I think that Kendra is the only irredeemable one.

Katrina comes across as the least golddiggery of the bunch. Her interest in the MC seems more based on the fact that he was successful than a desire to leach off of him (non femdom path, don't know about the femdom path).

Emily is probably initially the worst as far as golddiggerness goes but if MC calls her on her BS she apologizes and seems to accept she was acting like shit.

Gianna seems to just go with the flow and seems to have the weakest relationship with the MC to begin with. She also seems to accept that she treated him badly and wants to make amends.

But Kendra....Kendra is the MCs childhood friend but has been pretty shit to him the past few years. It is her that suggests the girls end their friendship with him. Some people think that her revealing this to the MC makes her better but the fact that she omits that it was her idea and tries to act like they all decided this make her much worse imo. As soon as she finds out he is rich she does a complete 180, being affectionate with the MC and acting as if she is behaving normally. She NEVER ONCE apologizes for her behavior despite claiming that she did in her stupid hula dance, where she claims she always had feelings for him despite you know BEING THE ONE THAT CONVINCED EVERYONE TO END THEIR FRIENDSHIPS WITH HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE. I dunno if she is gaslighting the MC or the dev actually forgot that they hadn't had her apologize or that they said she had been cold to him for years.

So while I do think the dev managed to right alot of the wrongs with 3 of the 4 girls Kendra is still a pos.

Lol, my take on them is almost the complete opposite.

One hole in your thinking about Kendra, yes she was the one to bring it up BUT she was still going to go through with it even after he says he's rich, Katarina is the one who stops her. They all agreed on the action and would have pretended it never happened, she at least had the stones to 'fess up even if it was her idea in the beginning. The whole situation would have been different if she hadn't, the MC would have carried on thinking he was off with his loyal friends and would have given into everything they wanted. She's also the one who told him he has to no to them from time to time. She also insisted on paying for stuff on the date, the other bitches just want to take and take.

Kat is a total golddiger, ffs she tries to seduce him into doubling, no more than doubling the budget, then when she gets shot down, takes it out on Karina by buying her a coach ticket and embarrassing her.

I also still call BS on Emily's change, I think she's more embarrassed by her actions and his standing up to her.

Gianna, I agree.

 

[Brawnstar]

Lol, my take on them is almost the complete opposite.

One hole in your thinking about Kendra, yes she was the one to bring it up BUT she was still going to go through with it even after he says he's rich, Katarina is the one who stops her. They all agreed on the action and would have pretended it never happened, she at least had the stones to 'fess up even if it was her idea in the beginning. The whole situation would have been different if she hadn't, the MC would have carried on thinking he was off with his loyal friends and would have given into everything they wanted. She's also the one who told him he has to no to them from time to time. She also insisted on paying for stuff on the date, the other bitches just want to take and take.

Kat is a total golddiger, ffs she tries to seduce him into doubling, no more than doubling the budget, then when she gets shot down, takes it out on Karina by buying her a coach ticket and embarrassing her.

I also still call BS on Emily's change, I think she's more embarrassed by her actions and his standing up to her.

Gianna, I agree.

Yeah my beef with Kendra is not that shes a golddigger but that shes a piece of shit. Frankly her change of heart is the most baffling as you're right she doesn't seem to be trying to leach off the MC but what other than his wealth changed to make it seem to her that he is now worth her time when she was so ready to kick him to the curb?

Her "fessing up" is tempered by the fact that she doesn't apologize or take responsibility. She suggests that it was a group decision to fuck him off when the idea was 100% hers and the others just went along with it. Her paying for the date means little because her motivations are so unclear. Perhaps it is a long con where she pretends that she isn't just in it for his money so the MC chooses her. Perhaps not. However the fact that one day she wants to cut ties with MC & the next she is coming on to him is highly suspect.

As to Kat while she did try to get MC to double the budget I am not sure it is a definitive nail in her coffin as it is tied to her dom storyline. I realize that is kinda metagamey. If taken on its own it is certainly damning but in the context of her wanting to dom the MC it is less so. I mean its still a bitch move but it could easily be seen as trying to establish her dominance as opposed to a naked cash grab.

As to the coach ticket maybe thats why she did it, maybe she is trying to cement her place in the harem hierarchy. I honestly didn't put that much thought into it as I was just happy to have atleast some way to punish Kendra for her shitty behavior.

With Emily that maybe the case but to me her apology seemed genuine enough and afterwards her shitty behavior stopped. Which is all we have to go on now.

I'm still hoping at the end we can tell all of the to pound sand.

 

[Naxos]

Yeah my beef with Kendra is not that shes a golddigger but that shes a piece of shit. Frankly her change of heart is the most baffling as you're right she doesn't seem to be trying to leach off the MC but what other than his wealth changed to make it seem to her that he is now worth her time when she was so ready to kick him to the curb?

Her "fessing up" is tempered by the fact that she doesn't apologize or take responsibility. She suggests that it was a group decision to fuck him off when the idea was 100% hers and the others just went along with it. Her paying for the date means little because her motivations are so unclear. Perhaps it is a long con where she pretends that she isn't just in it for his money so the MC chooses her. Perhaps not. However the fact that one day she wants to cut ties with MC & the next she is coming on to him is highly suspect.

As to Kat while she did try to get MC to double the budget I am not sure it is a definitive nail in her coffin as it is tied to her dom storyline. I realize that is kinda metagamey. If taken on its own it is certainly damning but in the context of her wanting to dom the MC it is less so. I mean its still a bitch move but it could easily be seen as trying to establish her dominance as opposed to a naked cash grab.

As to the coach ticket maybe thats why she did it, maybe she is trying to cement her place in the harem hierarchy. I honestly didn't put that much thought into it as I was just happy to have atleast some way to punish Kendra for her shitty behavior.

With Emily that maybe the case but to me her apology seemed genuine enough and afterwards her shitty behavior stopped. Which is all we have to go on now.

I'm still hoping at the end we can tell all of the to pound sand.

If you care and haven't yet, read my posts on the previous page, don't want to spam the thread repeating stuff or quoting myself.

I like the metagamey aspect and trying to imagine possible thoughts and motives beyond what is expressed in the game and I'm really enjoying this a lot more than I thought I would when I first started.

 

[Brawnstar]

If you care and haven't yet, read my posts on the previous page, don't want to spam the thread repeating stuff or quoting myself.

I like the metagamey aspect and trying to imagine possible thoughts and motives beyond what is expressed in the game and I'm really enjoying this a lot more than I thought I would when I first started.

I hadn't read your previous posts but have now. I totally understand your reasoning but the only reason I don't think MC should forgive Kendra is that she hasn't apologized. That is the literal bare minimum required to forgive someone. Whether you think they are sincere or not the others have all apologized for their actions.

Personally I found all the crap she said before their first time to be utter bs. Not least of which saying she had apologized when she hadn't. The stuff about always liking him rings pretty false too unless we use the theory you discussed with someone else that she never intended to cut him out but was trying to remove the others from the equation. At this stage it is just speculation and we may never actually no since the dev seems to have moved them past a point where an apology is needed despite one never having been made.

So as it stands I still see Kendra as an irredeemable bitch. I give her credit for telling the MC they were going to ditch him but hold against her the fact which it was her idea plus the lies about it and their relationship. If she had apologized I would say her character was basically redeemed but she didn't and now it makes very little narrative sense to do so. Or if you wanted to be very cynical she now has the MC exactly where she wants him. He has forgiven her & she is number one in the harem race and didn't have to do anything that affected her negatively to get there.

 

[ZagorTeNay]

The thing is the MC did not become confident at all but they were all over him because he got some cash but a few minutes ago they were all ready to ditch him for good.

I have no problem if none of them were attracted to him at all and they friendzoned him then after he turns his life around and gains some confidence they begin to see him differently but that's not what happened.

Also they are not some random girls he met, they are supposed to be his friends so ditching him because he is not "confident" is not something true friends would do.

Well he did, at least that's the impression I got ( as weird as it is): you get that scene with Emily (in shower...where you have "light domination scene"), Gianna ( deepthroat, at the beach), and in last update ( Kendra..for someone who was a virgin two days ago, he should start acting in porn movies ).
Without complete rewrite, I think this is still somewhat easily fixable, by restructuring the story, changing a few lines and adding a small number of scenes:
- Open up a game with showing MC and his relationship with girls/background ( you see this as MC monologue that plays after that meeting in cafe)
- Then a scene where he finds out that girls want to "move on" ( for example: he overhears conversation or reads a few messages on Kendra's cellphone)
- Few images and monologue: they break from him, he becomes depressed, starts to work on a game, becomes rich&succesfull, meets a lot of new people, changes his apperance/style, dates a few girls, etc, etc.
- Then it switches to that scene in cafe ( right at the opening), where he invites girls and proposes they go on vacation together ( so it is his idea instead, which makes them a bit more likeable and plot more plausible)
- Then story proceeds as it is.

 

[AmerHST]

Well he did, at least that's the impression I got ( as weird as it is): you get that scene with Emily (in shower...where you have "light domination scene"), Gianna ( deepthroat, at the beach), and in last update ( Kendra..for someone who was a virgin two days ago, he should start acting in porn movies ).
Without complete rewrite, I think this is still somewhat easily fixable, by restructuring the story, changing a few lines and adding a small number of scenes:
- Open up a game with showing MC and his relationship with girls/background ( you see this as MC monologue that plays after that meeting in cafe)
- Then a scene where he finds out that girls want to "move on" ( for example: he overhears conversation or reads a few messages on Kendra's cellphone)
- Few images and monologue: they break from him, he becomes depressed, starts to work on a game, becomes rich&succesfull, meets a lot of new people, changes his apperance/style, dates a few girls, etc, etc.
- Then it switches to that scene in cafe ( right at the opening), where he invites girls and proposes they go on vacation together ( so it is his idea instead, which makes them a bit more likeable and plot more plausible)
- Then story proceeds as it is.

All things you said happened later, they already had changed their mind the moment they knew he got money.

Some of your ideas are good but the dev need to change the beginning. It's fine if they friendzone him then changed their mind but cutting all ties with him then change their mind after he got rich is not redeemable especially from Kendra since she is his childhood friend.

 

[eddie987]

All things you said happened later, they already had changed their mind the moment they knew he got money.

Some of your ideas are good but the dev need to change the beginning. It's fine if they friendzone him then changed their mind but cutting all ties with him then change their mind after he got rich is not redeemable especially from Kendra since she is his childhood friend.

Yeah. I know Kendra is supposed to be the "good one" and a lot of people like her, and I have to admit that the whole story she told in this last update about wanting to cut ties with him so she can move on, because she regretted rejecting him, was a smart move by the dev, but I still don't buy it... I mean the whole, "Come to my pool, where I stopped inviting you since you asked me out and I rejected you, but now I'm totally fine with you coming over and the fact that you're rich is definitely irrelevant so I can warn you about those gold diggers who changed their attitude towards you, right after they found out you got rich... Oh, do you like my thong bikini by the way? How about we get into my jacuzzi for the first time ever?" seems a tiny bit insincere and manipulative... Also, if she really regretted it, there's no way she didn't know that all she had to do was wink at him or something, and he'd be running behind her like a lost puppy... She lost her top so fast in the movie shooting, I can't believe she's that innocent!

Like I said in a previous comment, they only "change of heart" I can accept is Gianna's. Sure, she starts off as a gold digger too, but we know they weren't so close anyway and we see that she's really submissive, so I can believe that she actually likes it when the MC takes control and becomes more dominant. I still would see her more as a "trophy wife" than an actual loving girlfriend, but it's more than I can say for the rest of them.

 

[Glooskabe]

Yeah. I know Kendra is supposed to be the "good one" and a lot of people like her, and I have to admit that the whole story she told in this last update about wanting to cut ties with him so she can move on, because she regretted rejecting him, was a smart move by the dev, but I still don't buy it... I mean the whole, "Come to my pool, where I stopped inviting you since you asked me out and I rejected you, but now I'm totally fine with you coming over and the fact that you're rich is definitely irrelevant so I can warn you about those gold diggers who changed their attitude towards you, right after they found out you got rich... Oh, do you like my thong bikini by the way? How about we get into my jacuzzi for the first time ever?" seems a tiny bit insincere and manipulative... Also, if she really regretted it, there's no way she didn't know that all she had to do was wink at him or something, and he'd be running behind her like a lost puppy... She lost her top so fast in the movie shooting, I can't believe she's that innocent!

Would your thinking about her change/soften if the dev were to give her a chance to demonstrate that she isn't after his money (not just give lip service to the idea) as I suggested above? I thought her explanation was a good step forward but insufficient by itself due to the egregiousness of her previous treatment of him...

BTW, good to run into you again. We seem not to have been frequenting the same forums lately.

 

[eddie987]

Would your thinking about her change/soften if the dev were to give her a chance to demonstrate that she isn't after his money (not just give lip service to the idea) as I suggested above? I thought her explanation was a good step forward but insufficient by itself due to the egregiousness of her previous treatment of him...

BTW, good to run into you again. We seem not to have been frequenting the same forums lately.

Well, my main issue with her is that her first interaction with the MC after she found out he got rich, wasn't a friendly chat/warning/coming clean type of conversation, but more of a "are you seduced by my womanly charms yet?" + "let me tell you how manipulative everyone else is..." kind of thing, where she also forgot to mention that it was her idea to ditch him... Now I keep thinking that everything she does follows the same pattern. Sure, she wants to pay for her half for the date for instance, but what is a few hundred bucks if she'll end up with a millionaire? A smart gold digger will play the long con.

That's why I can only see Gianna being somewhat redeemable. The MC found something she's into, something that gets her off, so it kinda makes sense for her to go back for more of that. The rest of them just had a five minute conversation with him each and they suddenly saw the light and changed their ways...

Again, what Kendra said in this last update definitely makes sense and I wouldn't question her intentions if it wasn't for the thong/hot tub scene, which felt manipulative in more than one ways.

*Good to run into you too. I've just been busy with work recently.