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WICKEDp4th

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Well i haven't played last human yet and i will, but i did see you mentioning Rin in some adventure in last human. Does that mean she is going to cheat on the MC of serenity. If that is the case then i would like to see an option to remove her permanently from the harem, after all i don't like sharing in that sense, even if i am playing both MC’s.
Jeez, keep your pants on. Nothing happens in Last Human. At least play before you worrie too much.
 
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Damios

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I will and it is nothing happens YET. Being a more then logical conclusion of the possibility of a crossover. Hence my question and statement if that was actually going to be the case in the future of either game, even if it hasn’t happened yet.. After all don’t forget about Melody and Celeste. Sure they are copies, but their copies are now in the process of becoming a part of another MC’s harem, so it’s very much on the border line of how one see’s it.
 
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I will and it is nothing happens YET. Being a more then logical conclusion of the possibility of a crossover. Hence my question and statement if that was actually going to be the case in the future of either game, even if it hasn’t happened yet.. After all don’t forget about Melody and Celeste. Sure they are copies, but their copies are now in the process of becoming a part of another MC’s harem, so it’s very much on the border line of how one see’s it.
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I will and it is nothing happens YET. Being a more then logical conclusion of the possibility of a crossover. Hence my question and statement if that was actually going to be the case in the future of either game, even if it hasn’t happened yet.. After all don’t forget about Melody and Celeste. Sure they are copies, but their copies are now in the process of becoming a part of another MC’s harem, so it’s very much on the border line of how one see’s it.
Good grief... Do some of you just immediately assume the worst before you even give a dev a chance to tell his story? LOL
I won't respond to your comment concerning "YET" because it is pointless. But consider this: If you're going to immediately assume the worst case scenario in any AVN (in other words, you think it isn't going to go your way), then why bother ever reading another one? When you watch a movie, do you turn it off in the first 15 minutes because you didn't like something? Or do you stick it out and see if there is more to it than what you saw on the surface?
I'll make a deal with you - force your way through it all. If at the end, when the game is complete and final, you still didn't like it, I'll write your review for you. Post all the hate you want in here about it (within reason of course, staying within the rules of this site). But, if you actually enjoyed it, post a good review for me.
Happy New Year to you
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Well i haven't played last human yet and i will, but i did see you mentioning Rin in some adventure in last human. Does that mean she is going to cheat on the MC of serenity. If that is the case then i would like to see an option to remove her permanently from the harem, after all i don't like sharing in that sense, even if i am playing both MC’s.
So you have not played either game to fruition, and yet you come in here to complain and cry. That is the very basics of being a troll and a snowflake. I would suggest that you never download any game ever again and instead create your own. That way you will always know what did and will happen without ever bothering to actually play said game.
 

Damios

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Good grief... Do some of you just immediately assume the worst before you even give a dev a chance to tell his story? LOL
I won't respond to your comment concerning "YET" because it is pointless. But consider this: If you're going to immediately assume the worst case scenario in any AVN (in other words, you think it isn't going to go your way), then why bother ever reading another one? When you watch a movie, do you turn it off in the first 15 minutes because you didn't like something? Or do you stick it out and see if there is more to it than what you saw on the surface?
I'll make a deal with you - force your way through it all. If at the end, when the game is complete and final, you still didn't like it, I'll write your review for you. Post all the hate you want in here about it (within reason of course, staying within the rules of this site). But, if you actually enjoyed it, post a good review for me.
Happy New Year to you
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It’s not so much about wanting to assume the worst case scenario or even hating on a/the game. Which I don’t by the way, I love Serenity and many others on this site. Story wise it’s one of the more unique ones on the site. But as a gamer if you’ve invested time in a game. You have experienced the story of the writer. Naturally you will create your own ideas and feelings towards the characters, as each story/game does. So if you start to see things like this character leaves (which is refreshing and understandable, the no incest) and that LI character goes on an adventure in this game and these two are now part of the harem. Then yeah assumptions are made perhaps too quickly, without playing the other game. Yet, initially they are made or at least the question arises of is it going to be the case, does the pattern repeat itself, yes or no. Hence my original question/statement.

Not to mention, I hadn’t even heard of your other game, until you mentioned it within serenity. Well I knew you were working on another game, just didn’t know the name or what it was about. However ReservoirCreature, basically answered most of it. So no worries. Happy New Year and looking forward to how the story unfolds and yes i will play your other game, since it has atleast peaked my curiosity.
 

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So you have not played either game to fruition, and yet you come in here to complain and cry. That is the very basics of being a troll and a snowflake. I would suggest that you never download any game ever again and instead create your own. That way you will always know what did and will happen without ever bothering to actually play said game.
Well I have played Serenity since it first came out. Ow i wish i could, unfortunately coding and anything Daz related are way beyond my capabilities, not for the lack of trying. However since I do often actually support game creators on patreon, if I like a game. No matter how big or small the contribution. I would say it would be well within my 'right' to ask any questions I want to ask.
 

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It’s not so much about wanting to assume the worst case scenario or even hating on a/the game. Which I don’t by the way, I love Serenity and many others on this site. Story wise it’s one of the more unique ones on the site. But as a gamer if you’ve invested time in a game. You have experienced the story of the writer. Naturally you will create your own ideas and feelings towards the characters, as each story/game does. So if you start to see things like this character leaves (which is refreshing and understandable, the no incest) and that LI character goes on an adventure in this game and these two are now part of the harem. Then yeah assumptions are made perhaps too quickly, without playing the other game. Yet, initially they are made or at least the question arises of is it going to be the case, does the pattern repeat itself, yes or no. Hence my original question/statement.

Not to mention, I hadn’t even heard of your other game, until you mentioned it within serenity. Well I knew you were working on another game, just didn’t know the name or what it was about. However ReservoirCreature, basically answered most of it. So no worries. Happy New Year and looking forward to how the story unfolds and yes i will play your other game, since it has atleast peaked my curiosity.
To explain my reaction to you when I replied... you have to remember that developers of these AVN's tend to get criticized more harshly than movies, singers, writers, etc... When I say harshly, I mean that. Someone DM'd me when I first started and said I should quit because I sucked. I thought "really? but I just started!" This is the reality of AVN development. Although I must say, I am glad that I didn't listen to that person because I have met and made friends with so many new people. But, after of a couple of years of hearing stuff like that, I tend to come off a bit strong when defending myself. And sometimes, even my devoted and longest fans will even chime in; sometimes I don't need to say a thing because they're like my shields. There is a kind of magic thing going on with Serenity and Last Human that is different from other AVN's, very different. I can't explain it. I have a few patrons who have been supporting on my highest tier since I started over 2 years ago. If someone likes what I'm doing, its rare that I lose that person. I love that.

Anyway, didn't mean to sound too snappy in my reply. And I appreciate that you've remained cordial in yours (many out there do not). Thanks for following the games. Stick around, I'm pretty sure you won't be disappointed. ;)
 

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That is very true, I can understand that. I meant no disrespect, even if it could have been construed that way, I was just curious from a fans perspective. Yes the criticizing, i see that across all the games, which I can imagine to be hard at times. Some great games have fallen to it or went from great VN’s to making too many changes, just to appease some. I do like Serenity, so I hope many more adventures await and I just finished Last Human. It was short but good. I understand it now and can’t wait to see on what adventures they might go. Now all we can do is wait for the next Chapters……:D
 
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While you're correct in saying that the MCs of Serenity and Last Human are alternate dimension counterparts, I have to HIGHLY disagree that a LI from one game being lewd with the MC of the other would not be cheating. They are still different beings with different lives, experiences, knowledge, etc... Taking Rin as an example, Rin and the MC of Serenity love each other, the MC of Last Human only briefly met Rin, so neither of them loved each other. How could it possibly not be cheating? And to be clear, it would still be cheating even if the Last Human MC did love her (for some reason), because he's still his own person. All that said, there was no indication that Rin would become physically/romantically involved with anyone other than Serenity's MC. So it's a non-issue.
 
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While you're correct in saying that the MCs of Serenity and Last Human are alternate dimension counterparts, I have to HIGHLY disagree that a LI from one game being lewd with the MC of the other would not be cheating. They are still different beings with different lives, experiences, knowledge, etc... Taking Rin as an example, Rin and the MC of Serenity love each other, the MC of Last Human only briefly met Rin, so neither of them loved each other. How could it possibly not be cheating? And to be clear, it would still be cheating even if the Last Human MC did love her (for some reason), because he's still his own person. All that said, there was no indication that Rin would become physically/romantically involved with anyone other than Serenity's MC. So it's a non-issue.
I understand that they're not actually the same person, the two Mikes are not interchangeable. Following from that a relationship between Rin and Last Human Mike would not be the same thing as Rin's existing relationship with Serenity Mike. Whether that would constitute cheating is a little bit open to interpretation, I think. I personally think that there is enough overlap between Serenity Mike and Last Human Mike that I wouldn't feel like Rin had cheated on me whenever I'm reading Serenity. Likewise I wouldn't feel like Mr. Steal 'Yo Girl while reading Last Human.
 

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Good grief... Do some of you just immediately assume the worst before you even give a dev a chance to tell his story? LOL
I won't respond to your comment concerning "YET" because it is pointless. But consider this: If you're going to immediately assume the worst case scenario in any AVN (in other words, you think it isn't going to go your way), then why bother ever reading another one? When you watch a movie, do you turn it off in the first 15 minutes because you didn't like something? Or do you stick it out and see if there is more to it than what you saw on the surface?
I really wish "fans" of these games would not spend so much effort trying to browbeat devs into changing their stories based on their personal preferences or "fears" of the dreaded 3 letter word. Honestly, it seems like every thread I read nowadays, every few pages has a few fans or other complaining about some theoretical future event in a game that hasn't even happened yet, just so they can try to shame the dev into deleting the offending event.

I think you nailed it right on the head N2TheFire. If you are a reader of books, you don't expect the author to write a story that is exactly how you expect it to be from the book description. If you are watching a movie, you don't expect the director to tell a story completely straight, twists are celebrated if done well. But for some reason AVN writers get tons and tons of criticism over every single aspect of their stories that doesn't match a fans preconceived notions of what he wants it to be.

Seriously, guys (you know you you are), take a deep breath and chill out. If you like a story, or a particular dev trust that he will write his AVN so it is an overall fun and positive experience.

I am not saying you shouldn't criticize if, say, the quality drops off a cliff from one update to the next, or part of the story makes no sense, or you hate a particular character. Say what you want. But to try to complain over things that haven't even happened, or to be so sensitive that the character in a completely different game, can't have be a different MC's LI, this is just silly.

Are you going to get all upset if the Melody copy in Serenity is an LI because you liked her in the game Melody, or you liked Celeste from Sylphia Island (too late)? Just have fun with the game. It's not real life (hint see cat ears and tails + magic).

Anyway, for the 95% of people around here that don't spend their time moving from thread to thread trying to intimidate devs to tell stories exactly how they personally want, feel free to ignore my rant.
 

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I understand that they're not actually the same person, the two Mikes are not interchangeable. Following from that a relationship between Rin and Last Human Mike would not be the same thing as Rin's existing relationship with Serenity Mike. Whether that would constitute cheating is a little bit open to interpretation, I think. I personally think that there is enough overlap between Serenity Mike and Last Human Mike that I wouldn't feel like Rin had cheated on me whenever I'm reading Serenity. Likewise I wouldn't feel like Mr. Steal 'Yo Girl while reading Last Human.
Look at it this way, if some guy who looked and acted basically the same as you showed up one day and started banging your wife, assuming she knows its not you, is she cheating? I really don't understand how it could possibly not be cheating because he's objectively a fundamentally different person from you. Personally, I would go so far as to say that even an absolutely perfect copy of yourself would constitute cheating, because its still a separate entity from you.
 
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Look at it this way, if some guy who looked and acted basically the same as you showed up one day and started banging your wife, assuming she knows its not you, is she cheating? I really don't understand how it could possibly not be cheating because he's objectively a fundamentally different person from you. Personally, I would go so far as to say that even an absolutely perfect copy of yourself would constitute cheating, because its still a separate entity from you.
Let me settle this for everyone: There won't be any crossover sex between Serenity and Last Human characters. So, no need to debate this anymore (before it starts getting ugly). With that said, let me clarify something for you guys. YOU are the MC in both. I'm guessing no one has figured that out? Anyone remember the things we learned about the Serenity book and how we compared it to "Neverending Story"? You're part of the story. That is the case in every AVN where the story is from the protagonist's POV. So, technically, if Rin and the MC in LH had sex, it is still you. However, there is of course one caveat: if LH MC has sex with Rin (a Fade being), there is the possibility he'll be pulled into the fade with her - and into Serenity! Two Mike's in the same place!
Now, debate that instead. :D
 

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Let me settle this for everyone: There won't be any crossover sex between Serenity and Last Human characters. So, no need to debate this anymore (before it starts getting ugly). With that said, let me clarify something for you guys. YOU are the MC in both. I'm guessing no one has figured that out? Anyone remember the things we learned about the Serenity book and how we compared it to "Neverending Story"? You're part of the story. That is the case in every AVN where the story is from the protagonist's POV. So, technically, if Rin and the MC in LH had sex, it is still you. However, there is of course one caveat: if LH MC has sex with Rin (a Fade being), there is the possibility he'll be pulled into the fade with her - and into Serenity! Two Mike's in the same place!
Now, debate that instead. :D
SOooo, I'd be cucking myself? or sharing with myself? Or like being twins except the same person in different places?
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kiiiiiiiiinky!

I'd rather just have two of each girl from both games, 15 pounds of Viagra and a week to sleep it off later....
 
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