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Exactly two very different MCs. One realistically masculine character who behaves reasonably (mlc) and a neurotic submissive weak willed scared of sex pathetic character. In mlc the character is honest and ok with himself while still battling the morality of it. In SA it's always the same thing, horny girls who want his D, while he agonizes over his own attraction and what other people think.
Every scene where the girls make it clear he's NOT their dad and want him and he gets all neurotic and scared of adult girls who have their own agency and have made it abundantly clear, OVER AND OVER AGAIN, what they want. My point is this MC is a thoroughly unlikely and unlikeable character who obviously deserves being cucked multiple times since he's to afraid to take what's offered and express his own agency.
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Well said, and coming from just recently playing the latest update to MLC, I can say it has spoiled me in terms of any potential F/D kink dynamic. You are correct in how the MC in that game is a complete 180 compared to this one, while still managing to keep his grounded sense of humor at the crux of his awakening desire for all of the temptations around him while managing to still be a decent human being and a loving father and husband.
I've essentially argued a similar stance regarding the MC in SA recently and perhaps my own bias has to do with why I've struggled with the immersion in this game.... typically I'd say suspension of disbelief coming from other games like MLC when it comes to comparing MC's PoV. While I respect the dev's choices about how his MC deals with his own feelings and desires, I agree there is a happy medium where the MC doesn't necessarily need to constantly give in to the constant self-flagellation and hand wringing guilt over being man, with the typical desires that come with being single after a traumatizing divorce and now having multiple adult females attracted to him.
I get the added complication that stems from these females formerly under his care when they were children (in Abby's case) and adolescents (in Becca and Lilly's case), but there really should come a time where the MC decides he's had enough (much like the MC in MLC) and is going to reject them outright and preserve the ideal image he has in his head of his girls at the risk of permanently damaging their relationships with him over the idea he ultimately knows what's best for them. Or, he can be open to having a serious, adult conversation with all of them regarding their feelings for him, (and for each other, i.e. Becca/Abby & Lilly/Abby) his evolving feelings for them, and ultimately if they are aware of the consequences of pursuing a consensual adult, romantic relationship with a former 'parent' and all the complications that may result. Either way, Frank is well aware of Becca's feelings for him, has a pretty good idea where Abby's feelings are, and only needs Lilith to come clean and confess how she feels to finally put this decision to a decisive end.
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Also, if you remember what Becca said at some point during the last update (during/after the blowjob), according to her plan, MC/Frank can't fuck Becca or Abby until Becca says so - "Lilly has to be first, She needs to think she's not, but she needs to be".
The ending of Lillith's side story seems to fit into Becca's plan. First, Lilly caught Becca giving MC/Frank a blowjob, and probably thinks they've been doing more already, and now, seeing Abby in bed, naked, with MC/Frank, might make her think they've already been doing it. Sure, the last one was more or less by coincident, but it still fits into her plan somewhat. Within Lillith's side story, 2 months for Lilly and Becca's bet could be overkill, and might even be "fulfilled" long before that deadline, maybe even within the first couple of weeks into the story after update 0.11. I predict Becca sporting a new hairstyle (as a result of their bet, seen near the end of Lillith's side story) perhaps as soon as update 0.13 or 0.14 (not in update 0.12, which is expected to be released by the end of May, if the last Patreon update is correct).
I'm sorry for all the inline spoilers here, but it would be necessary for those who haven't played update 0.11 all the way to the end, or even played through Lillith's side story. The spoiler tags in the first paragraph are for Single Again, while the spoiler tags in the second paragraph are for Lillith's side story.
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Exactly. And I think I understand Becca's plan better bit by bit. Lilith has to be the first because she has the most difficult relationship with Frank so far. If it were just Becca and Abby, both would certainly be willing to share Frank without a problem. With Lilith, however, it also goes some way toward healing emotional wounds and making her further aware that Frank loves her just as much as the other two. That she has to think that she is not the first makes sense insofar as it would make the constellation Frank-Becca-Lilith-Abby complicated or impossible. In the best case it would only be Lilith in the worst case she would feel betrayed by Frank like by her ex and would make the romantic relationship of these characters to Frank impossible and would destroy the "family bond" (even if strictly speaking only Becca and Lilith are related to each other) permanently. Besides, Becca also hinted that Lilith has a little timer ticking until she does something stupid and ends up, to put it a bit flippantly, getting knocked up in an outhouse at a concert or something.
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I remember when I was living at home my mum would say things like "Have you seen your mother's car keys?".
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OK I'm a little confused, I thought Becca's plan stressing the importance of Lilith needing to be the first one inducted into a potential polyamorous relationship with Frank was because ultimately with her fragile mental state and explosive emotional outbursts, she is the lynchpin in whether this experiment gets off the ground. Clearly she's demonstrated trust and daddy issues along with being a little too clingy and overprotective of Abby, treating her as a lover/girlfriend rather than a casual FWB/fuckbuddy and former stepsister.
So with that in mind, how is the ending of LL (where she comes across Abby & Frank in flagrante delicto) not to mention catching Becca & Frank in an even worse position still going according to Becca's plan? If anything wouldn't that be the second betrayal (first Becca, second being Abby) essentially be problematic for Lilith to want to get into any relationship with Frank let alone a sharing one if she feels she can't trust anyone, not Becca, not Abby, and definitely not Frank?
man its killing me waiting for an update for this game.
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What's important here is that Lilith trusts Abby and is very protective of her. Her anger at that moment is really directed against Frank, as someone already mentioned, because she will assume at that moment that Frank has "manipulated" Abby into this situation, although strictly speaking it is the other way around.
In the scene where she watches Becca and Frank, it's a bit different: Lilith knows that Becca knows what she wants and knows how to get it, so she can assume that Becca was the initiator of the whole thing.
But how can the scenario be saved with the frantic Lilith finding Frank and Abby in bed?
Abby herself goes through a certain character development and from a rather passive mini-version of her mother also becomes more similar to her in character (without becoming a simple copy of her mother) and I think here too Becca has her fingers in the pie to a certain degree.
Abby can now save the situation in the following way: First she will probably show Lilith the note she wrote to herself. Then she will mention Frank's back problems due to the couch. Frank can also contribute a lot here by mentioning his recurring nightmare with Shannon's ex-husband, who is balls deep in Shannon when he catches the two of them. As we saw in Lilith's side story, she has already witnessed Frank having severe nightmares on the couch, among other things.
And finally, CNG has already posted little teaser pictures with Abby, Becca and Lili and in the picture with Lilith she looks completely relaxed and interacting with Frank, so it should be possible to calm her down.
That's why I also assume Lilith must think she's not the first. So the quadrangle relationship can arise most uncomplicatedly. If she knew she was the first, then the quadrangle would most likely be impossible (why would she share Frank, especially with Becca) or, in the worst case, would repeat the scene with Lilith's ex, which would permanently damage the relationship of the four.
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The game is great, just ( Frank sorry ) it gets tedious after a while.
Don't forget the Lillith's Longing release not long ago.
From Patreon:
I don't know when the full update will be done but I'm shooting for the end of the month. I'll make a post with preview pics when I get closer to release.
- Mar 9, 2019
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I don't care about the lilith side story thing, I doubt most people care either. She got raped by that one asshole blah blah, did we really need a backstory for this? They could easily explain this in a short sentence of the main game.
You may not have but other people might, and it's already done, so, we just wait for the next update 
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She was not raped, her boyfriend cheated on her with a mutual work colleague. The only time it's alleged that someone had been molesting the girls was in the presence of the judge. Here it was Shannon who accused Frank of this. An insinuation, but one that the judge saw through pretty quickly.
In Lilith's subplot you get insights into how Lilith feels within her family (especially the relationship with her mother Shannon) and the slowly changing feelings she has for Frank (even if they are only subliminal at first). At the end there is a series of memories from the past that show the family life of Frank, Shannon, Becca, Lilith and Abby and the interactions between Frank and Lilith. The last scene is debatable, but I think everyone agrees on that.
In Lilith's subplot you get insights into how Lilith feels within her family (especially the relationship with her mother Shannon) and the slowly changing feelings she has for Frank (even if they are only subliminal at first). At the end there is a series of memories from the past that show the family life of Frank, Shannon, Becca, Lilith and Abby and the interactions between Frank and Lilith. The last scene is debatable, but I think everyone agrees on that.
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Dont feed the trolls, just ignore them.
