BeenThroughHell

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DEV let the MC progress with this HIGH LVL of Reluctant. make the MC just accept "slowly" the advances of his girls/daughters.
I started playing this until V6 cause of his HIGH LVL OF R. I'm just gonna laugh it off.
 

BeenThroughHell

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I absolutely agree... When I started this game I had a few nitpicks but I wanted to see where it went. Unfortunately the MC dreams like an 18 year old but is afraid of his own shadow, has less character growth than Peter Pan, and whines about having 3 nubile young ladies who want to jump his bones.

The whole "no, we can't!" but then he finger fucks Becca in the library, "no we can't" but he then face fucks her in his kitchen, "no we can't" but then he fucks Lilith... It's nails on the chalkboard level of annoyance. This MC is never going to embrace the fact that he wants them just as much as they want him and will protest every time, at least that seems to be all he does.

Because of the MC this entire game has become "ugh" .
" straight back to being an annoying cunt. " Quote of the Day. Lmao
 
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Naxos

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Since im bored and still awake for some weird reason or another....

Lemme show my issue with the MC with charts and graphs! :)

this first graph shows the daughters "Growth", "Movement", "Whatever Ya Wanna Call It"

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Even if one doesnt want to acknowledge any growth/whatever in the daughters, there was movement with the characters in one shape or form.

Now lets take a look at our MC shall we?..........

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remember kids, he's worse than hitler!
I think you're being to kind to the MC after this update.
 

Leon Blaze

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Why the fuck does Lilith have so much say in the relationship between MC and Abby in the first place. Abby is an adult and can make her own fucking decisions. I really just wanna say her to mind her own fucking business.
Seriously one of the worst 'bitch' in any VN I've ever played.
And is MC just a miserable cunt who can't even defend himself when she's only giving shit to him whenever they meet.
 
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Exanadae

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It leads to a gameplay experience where the consequences of your actions are so obscure and disconnected from the actions themselves that you don't feel meaningfully in control of the story, and the only way to know what's going on is to have the game's script open in another window while you're playing.
I've been reading my own post, because I'm that kind of narcissist, and I'm starting to think this is deliberate and says a lot about what the developers are trying to do with this game, and why it rubs people the wrong way.

The protagonist of a story is the character responsible for moving the plot forward. While they're usually the same, there's no rule that says the protagonist has to be the point-of-view character. In the Sherlock Holmes stories, for example, the POV character is Watson, but his role is to follow Sherlock around, tell us what Sherlock is doing, be the person Sherlock explains things to, and tell us how awesome Sherlock is.

In "Single Again", the MC isn't the protagonist. The girls drive the story, the MC is a character the story happens to. It's a reverse-seduction game where the characters lead you down the path to depravity, and even when they level you up to access a new scene, your character has to remain essentially reluctant and unwilling to push things any further so that getting you to the next milestone is still a challenge.

It's a game where you get to experience being an NPC in a porn game.

Even the obscured, disconnected decision trees make more sense in this reading. The game decides, based on the totality of how your character has behaved towards it, whether it likes you enough to give you certain options.

In Single Again, the harem ending chooses you.
 

Avaron1974

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so no love for that nice big waitress? what a shame
She probably has a father which means she's a daughter so he can't do that, it just wouldn't be right.

Maybe in 7 more updates when he's debated it in his dreams with the fairy girls.

After that he can ask her out on a date ... if she's sure of course, but no, he can't it's just wrong but go on then if she's really sure but wait .. no ... okay then do me big girl ... I mean him ... *coughs*
 

jhustrue

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This MC... Did he forget his balls in his purse somewhere for the entire duration of this game? Constant whining and backpedaling. I don't understand why you make an "incest" (technically not even that) game and it's just a constant "we can't do that" simulator.
 

Jace_Herondale

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Why the fuck does Lilith have so much say in the relationship between MC and Abby in the first place. Abby is an adult and can make her own fucking decisions. I really just wanna say her to mind her own fucking business.
Seriously one of the worst 'bitch' in any VN I've ever played.
And is MC just a miserable cunt who can't even defend himself when she's only giving shit to him whenever they meet.
I don't agree. Yes, Lily is overprotective in Abby's case but this makes her character imperfect but not bad. I actually love her. She had some things to overcome and for the most part, she did this.
 
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Jellyluve

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Could someone upload the new update to mega please I always have a bad time with any of the downloading websites with big downloads like this. :cry:
 

B00G1E

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My one and only question is " WTF is the MCs problem "he is not blood related in any way shape or form so no Taboo exists except in his own tiny mind the girls want him yet he fights every second and beats himself up as if he raped them in their sleep even for something as simple as a damned kiss at first this was acceptable but after chapter after chapter of the same thing it starts to wear thin, please dev for the love of god move on from this cliché
 

Paitryn

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I disagree with the majority. I like this MC.
One of the features of this game is that the MC is not a "seducer" or a hunter.
He is, one might say, the prey and victim of someone's plan.
At the head of the story is that Becca actually makes him look at his daughters from a different angle and accept hidden feelings.

Unlike many other games, MC is primarily a good person and a father. For him, this is new and dreadful.

And I like his constant struggle between his desire and what is right. This sets this story apart from other similar games.

To be honest, if the author removes MC's uncertainty, I will most likely lose interest in the game, because it will turn into another banal sex marathon with a perverted father.
I don't think the issue is so much his normal character, it's the to the level of uncertainty that the MC keeps having because no matter your decisions as the player, your character does not progress. In VN terms this is emotionally. It is too soon I know, but some indication of progress would be nice. There are also some inconsistencies that I'll get into in a moment.

I was frustrated with the scene as well, but for different reasons. Why the fuck does anything going on be conferred as Taboo by the author? They are not related, nor are they under 18 (legal binding age) much less the age of consent. But these two hangups seem to be his largest ones. Why?

He's always going on about how he's so screwed if anyone finds out but the worse that would happen is he looks like a prick for running away with the ex's daughter(s) or breaking the half plus 7 rule. The MC should not be obsessed by this. His Ex may use it to fuck up his life in some way, sure, but that isn't a taboo problem.

Also, we have two MCs occupying the same body. One is an adult male, the other the father.

The adult male watches porn, fucks a lesbian and dreams of his daughters having sex with each other.​
The father has never heard a woman call herself a whore in bed, would never even think of touching his daughter and refuses to acknowledge their feelings.​

The Author seems to switch between the two as needed in the story vs a good merge. I expect writing issues from amateur writing so it's not so much a big deal as pointing it out. The MC based on written should know the difference between a girl calling a guy daddy in bed and wanting to fuck their real dad just on the fact he watches porn alone much less fucked more than one girl. He even eludes to it in an internal dialogue. So why does he have Becca explain it again?

If anyone in the room has mental issues, it's the MC. He's so convinced he's the girls real dad that doing anything with them is incest.

And maybe this was Becca's real reasoning for the big plan. She knew all the girls real feelings and knew that the MC could never JUST be their father. He had to be more than that for them and set about her plans.
 

cooldude33

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In "Single Again", the MC isn't the protagonist. The girls drive the story, the MC is a character the story happens to. It's a reverse-seduction game where the characters lead you down the path to depravity, and even when they level you up to access a new scene, your character has to remain essentially reluctant and unwilling to push things any further so that getting you to the next milestone is still a challenge.

It's a game where you get to experience being an NPC in a porn game.
That seems like the kind of thing someone tells to themselves to explain why something in a game is shit. Like people saying the combat in Silent Hill 2 is supposed to be shit, that it's deliberately made to suck because the main character is kind of an idiot and not a fighter, when in fact it's shit because the developer had no idea what to do regarding the combat.
Similar thing happening here, you say this choice is deliberate, I say it's the creator having no idea what to do with the MC.
 
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Avaron1974

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Is there more content with Beth? She kinda is the only reason why I play this game.
If that's one of the lesbians then there won't be much with her. She is only a side thing and won't have anything serious, she's married after all.

That will be an as and when thing.
 

Sancho1969

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I was frustrated with the scene as well, but for different reasons. Why the fuck does anything going on be conferred as Taboo by the author? They are not related, nor are they under 18 (legal binding age) much less the age of consent. But these two hangups seem to be his largest ones. Why?

He's always going on about how he's so screwed if anyone finds out but the worse that would happen is he looks like a prick for running away with the ex's daughter(s) or breaking the half plus 7 rule. The MC should not be obsessed by this. His Ex may use it to fuck up his life in some way, sure, but that isn't a taboo problem.
Why? Imho it's simple. Frank's a whiny-assed bitch. He ain't the first in the VN world and he certainly won't be the last. For me the constant repeating of the same internal dialogue is a bit nauseating at this point and feels like it's done just to string out the "size" of the project instead of fleshing it out with meaningful storyline progress. Meh, being that it's the author's vision, it is what it is. I'm sure some folks adore it, which is cool. I'd mod it to full kinetic and edit the dialogue drivel but not sure it's worth the time and effort as it wouldn't necessarily be seen as a benefit to folks. Regards.
 
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