rudy007

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It's funny because imo LomL's MC is probably the closest comparable to Frank, not counting NTR protagonists. Dude's just a decent guy trying to be a good father getting corrupted to absolute shit by his lovably degenerate daughter Denise. Sure Frank is way more of a wet blanket, a brutal worrywart and all around murderer of all things fun, but the dynamic between the two games, with a hesitant MC being corrupted by his more perverted daughter as she tries to make a family harem so everyone she loves can be together forever is pretty well identical.

My advice. If Frank does or says something ridiculous or stupid just laugh and maybe even call him a boomer or something. This game will drive you crazy if you don't make Frank's stupid moments into a laugh. Like him freaking out over Lilith's belly button piercing, that made me roll my eyes but it was genuinely funny.
I started with laugh long time ago, and yes, it helps. Agree with your opinion about Single Again. There are few quite funny situations in this game. Writing is good, few time jumps. Renders are good (I know some people preferred the old ones, but it's personal preferences).
We did become Maiko as LI, but I have the feeling developer struggles to put her in right light. Possible now when
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, she become faster growth. She is sheltered, yes, but other girls will try their best to accelerate it. (She said, she isn't lebian or bi, that will make it tougher for girls, but they can do it without creating another bi character. She is a smart character, I like the way how CNG made her.
 
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I started with laugh long time ago, and yes, it helps. Agree with your opinion about Single Again. There are few quite funny situations in this game. Writing is good, few time jumps. Renders are good (I know some people preferred the old ones, but it's personal preferences).
We did become Maiko as LI, but I have the feeling developer struggles to put her in right light. Possible now when
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, she become faster growth. She is sheltered, yes, but other girls will try their best to accelerate it. (She said, she isn't lebian or bi, that will make it tougher for girls, but they can do it without creating another bi character. She is a smart character, I like the way how CNG made her.
I really hope she stays "plain straight". Not because I have anything against bi characters, nor do I complain about the girls having fun with each other, but generally some variation is welcome, even if ever so small that Mei stays out of the other girls' knickers (normally I'd have said "panties" but I love how some get their own in a twist over the use of this word. ;) )
 
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rudy007

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I really hope she stays "plain straight". Not because I have anything against bi characters, nor do I complain about the girls having fun with each other, but generally some variation is welcome, even if ever so small that Mei stays out of the other girls' knickers (normally I'd have said "panties" but I love how some get their own in a twist over the use of this word. ;) )
Well said. I too don't have against it, but they shouldn't jump from every game I play.
 

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Ahh, I see your confusion, this character doesn't just think with his dick. His agency, as you put it, is to be a loving father and protector to three girls that he loves with all his heart even though they aren't biologically related to him. He has never thought of them in a sexual way before because he is a good man with strong morals. I know that might be a foreign concept to some people who just see women as living sex dolls. This is a corruption game, but it is flipped where the MC is the one being corrupted by the women. Where the game is now he is happily engaging in sex with not only Beth but Lilly and Becca too. He is well on his way to including Meiko in that. The corruption is working. The way things are going Abby will probably make the first move but that is because he has been her father before she was even born.
I would agree with you in principle, but I have seen the same thing done better without Francis' deficient personality traits and Hamlet-like soliloquies about how hard his daughter-fucking life is. The Daddy Plan is a reverse corruption game and doesn't have that bullshit. Radiant doesn't have that bullshit. Nor does A Moment of Bliss. It just grates on people. It's like a record scratch when everybody is dancing. This is meant to be a joyous game and every time he steps up onto his mental soap box it kills joy. Everybody is having fun but Frank and it causes ludonarrative dissonance. Because people like the reluctance but not the self-flagellation. Ain't nobody have time for that we are trying to make a porn game here.
 

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The Daddy Plan is a reverse corruption game and doesn't have that bullshit.
No it just has low-mid tier writing, an uncharacteristically ugly MC and an annoyingly unavoidable non familial LI.
Radiant doesn't have that bullshit.
No, that just has an immoral, perverted and sometimes even sexually aggressive MC who doesn't give a fuck about societal bullshit who does the corrupting himself. Can't really compared because that MC starts the game corrupted already.
Nor does A Moment of Bliss.
It definitely does though. MC of that game spent the entire Petal game set right before to it in a Frank like character development plot, and until he finally commits to fucking Petal again keeps it up for probably the first third or so of aMoB.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not disagreeing that it's annoying. Other games with a hesitant uncorrupted MC like the Rose Garden Trilogy and Light of my Life don't have the pacing issues, or the one step forward 2 steps back bullshit that this one does, but the beta male MC whining about pussy being thrown at his face is pretty common for the daughter>daddy corruption setup.
 

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I would agree with you in principle, but I have seen the same thing done better without Francis' deficient personality traits and Hamlet-like soliloquies about how hard his daughter-fucking life is. The Daddy Plan is a reverse corruption game and doesn't have that bullshit. Radiant doesn't have that bullshit. Nor does A Moment of Bliss. It just grates on people. It's like a record scratch when everybody is dancing. This is meant to be a joyous game and every time he steps up onto his mental soap box it kills joy. Everybody is having fun but Frank and it causes ludonarrative dissonance. Because people like the reluctance but not the self-flagellation. Ain't nobody have time for that we are trying to make a porn game here.
I don't know the other games you mention, but if you place "Radiant" as an example I cannot follow you. That game had a great opening chapter, arguably one of the most promising ever, and since then only tried to find more and more ridiculous ways to make any character seem stupid and artificial while destroying any resemblance to actual human beings with any kind of emotion. All of MC and daughters and secondary LIs have been getting less bearable by the dialogue line. One of the greatest disappointments for me, not for the long update times (you may find my comments in said thread about it) but for the complete and utter destruction of anything making this story interesting in the first place.

However, for this thread the most important part is: it is not a reverse corruption game. MC is not an "innocent" guy driven to depravity by his daughters at all. He is a leacherous creep from the beginning (possibly depending on choices, it's been a while since I tried it and I am not gonna go there again) so the comparison just doesn't hold up. And that's not because I have something against playing a leacherous creep, that can be fun. But Radiant MC is a completely different person and Radiant storyline completely different from Single Again.
 

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To be fair I didn't say that you have to like the reverse corruption games I mentioned. Not all of them are my cup of tea either. I'm more a Friends in Need and Fake Father kind of guy. You know, good clean honest perverts. I just said that those games handled the father fucking better. If Francis crying himself to sleep in a gigantic puddle of cum, vaginal secretions, and manly tears is your idea of a good time there isn't much that I can say to dissuade you.
 

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To be fair I didn't say that you have to like the reverse corruption games I mentioned. Not all of them are my cup of tea either. I'm more a Friends in Need and Fake Father kind of guy. You know, good clean honest perverts. I just said that those games handled the father fucking better. If Francis crying himself to sleep in a gigantic puddle of cum, vaginal secretions, and manly tears is your idea of a good time there isn't much that I can say to dissuade you.
FiN's MC is a pervert only if you want him to be. My MC isn't
 

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To be fair I didn't say that you have to like the reverse corruption games I mentioned. Not all of them are my cup of tea either. I'm more a Friends in Need and Fake Father kind of guy. You know, good clean honest perverts. I just said that those games handled the father fucking better. If Francis crying himself to sleep in a gigantic puddle of cum, vaginal secretions, and manly tears is your idea of a good time there isn't much that I can say to dissuade you.
Yes, that's what you said, and thus my first paragraph was just me ranting and a bit off topic for the discussion here. But the second one was relevant: at least Radiant is NOT a "reverse corruption" game at all. So it is not useful as an example.

And the other question remains: if you dislike shedding manly tears so much, why are you constantly doing it in this thread instead of moving on to be a plain pervert?
 

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Well after finally catching all the way up, I've just found it easier now to read all interaction dialgues and then just skip whatever crap the MC is internalising until we get back to an actual conversation again. Not missing anything and makes it far more enjoyable.
 

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Hey all, Sneak peek time again.

This update will span (Almost) two days, starting on Friday and most of Saturday in game. I had to split up Saturday or this update would be utterly massive. It's kind of a big day for the group.

Of course there will be lewd stuff. As well as the long awaited return of a hated (by most) character, Shannon. But there will be some touching (I hope) moments too.

I've updated the Progress report image and set the (Estimated) release date to mid August. Images and videos for 1.22 are done. Here's a sneak peek at that.


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Hey all, Sneak peek time again.

This update will span (Almost) two days, starting on Friday and most of Saturday in game. I had to split up Saturday or this update would be utterly massive. It's kind of a big day for the group.

Of course there will be lewd stuff. As well as the long awaited return of a hated (by most) character, Shannon. But there will be some touching (I hope) moments too.

I've updated the Progress report image and set the (Estimated) release date to mid August. Images and videos for 1.22 are done. Here's a sneak peek at that.


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Those scenes with Lillith are just adorable. No wonder people like that little psycho... :love:
 
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