VN Ren'Py Completed Sorcerer [v1.0.0] [Talothral]

[JJDrakken]

Android port Will be updated?

He's not in charge of that, I believe a 3rd party source does that, so you'll have to ask them.

 

[DarhkBlu]

So can someone help me with the whole harem thing here like is it strictly you need to have a harem at the end or can you end it with just 1 woman,And if you can't be with just 1 is there a minimum amount of you need to be with to not get a bad ending if sorts?

 

[JJDrakken]

So can someone help me with the whole harem thing here like is it strictly you need to have a harem at the end or can you end it with just 1 woman,And if you can't be with just 1 is there a minimum amount of you need to be with to not get a bad ending if sorts?

Just tell them no? When they wanna have sex, say no. If you say yes, it's your fault with your penis controlling your actions.

 

[Avaron1974]

Rex Blue

Alexander's first encounter with the supernatural was witnessing a pitched battle between a kimono clad girl and three ninja(?). He proceeds to whip out his gun and plug two of them as the girl finishes the third. The girl then passes out from her wounds. He picks her up, puts her in his bed and sleeps in the chair until she wakes up in the morning, idly asking her unconscious form "Who the hell are you and who were those guys?"

Note what's missing there. No shock, no horror, no awe, no joy, not even the slightest pause before throwing himself into a gun fight in which he couldn't be sure his gun would even do anything. There are cool customers and then there's Alexander Ward.

This is not a compliment.

If you'd followed the story you'd know he'd been cut off from his emotions as a child.

 

[JJDrakken]

Rex Blue



If you'd followed the story you'd know he'd been cut off from his emotions as a child.

What someone like that would actually read and not trolling? ....-tongue in cheek-

 

[Arigon]

I liked this story.
The style, like Terminus Reach, is not for everyone, but it is a good story.
I would probably want to make dozens of changes if it were me, but it is still entertaining.
He finishes his stories too. Hasn't he started the second space game set with the same characters as his first now?

Good Job!
Peace

 

[Rex Blue]

If you'd followed the story you'd know he'd been cut off from his emotions as a child.

If you'd followed continued the story you'd know he'd been cut off from his emotions as a child.

ftfy

This is an acceptable excuse if the story had lampshaded or mentioned that in some way. At no point in the story to the point that I read did anyone mention he'd been "cut off from his emotions." Female lead never mentioned that it was extremely bizarre that he was so okay with killing. Alexander didn't note how strange it was that he was so unaffected by everything. I think his incompetent friend might have mentioned that he was normally cold or something along those lines, but that's the closest I remember and hardly enough evidence to assume magical shenanigans.

My initial response to a character being a hyper competent, stone cold killer is not to assume magical bullshit, it's to assume the author is dropping some sort of Mary-sue self insert, especially when the evidence (every other characters' reactions) suggests there's nothing strange about it. I'm a bit of a cynic when it comes to writing, especially in sex games where porn logic reigns supreme.

That said, it reassures me that there's an excuse for Alexander's behavior. His actions and lack of reactions really made the early story a mess in my opinion. Talothral seemed like a better writer than this in Sentinel's Reach, so maybe I should have had more trust in him. That said, the main character in Sentinel's Reach was the same sort of hyper competent, stone cold killer, though he had a good justification from the first moment of the story. I just assumed that hyper competent, stone cold killer was the type of character Talothral liked as his main character, regardless of how he came to be that way.

I might go back and continue Sorcerer based on this information. I definitely felt Talothral was setting up an interesting political landscape, even though I quit pretty early on. As long as Alexander isn't some sort of psychopath without a single character noticing or caring, my main point of contention falls through.

 

[Avaron1974]

If you'd followed continued the story you'd know he'd been cut off from his emotions as a child.

ftfy

This is an acceptable excuse if the story had lampshaded or mentioned that in some way. At no point in the story to the point that I read did anyone mention he'd been "cut off from his emotions." Female lead never mentioned that it was extremely bizarre that he was so okay with killing. Alexander didn't note how strange it was that he was so unaffected by everything. I think his incompetent friend might have mentioned that he was normally cold or something along those lines, but that's the closest I remember and hardly enough evidence to assume magical shenanigans.

My initial response to a character being a hyper competent, stone cold killer is not to assume magical bullshit, it's to assume the author is dropping some sort of Mary-sue self insert, especially when the evidence (every other characters' reactions) suggests there's nothing strange about it. I'm a bit of a cynic when it comes to writing, especially in sex games where porn logic reigns supreme.

That said, it reassures me that there's an excuse for Alexander's behavior. His actions and lack of reactions really made the early story a mess in my opinion. Talothral seemed like a better writer than this in Sentinel's Reach, so maybe I should have had more trust in him. That said, the main character in Sentinel's Reach was the same sort of hyper competent, stone cold killer, though he had a good justification from the first moment of the story. I just assumed that hyper competent, stone cold killer was the type of character Talothral liked as his main character, regardless of how he came to be that way.

I might go back and continue Sorcerer based on this information. I definitely felt Talothral was setting up an interesting political landscape, even though I quit pretty early on. As long as Alexander isn't some sort of psychopath without a single character noticing or caring, my main point of contention falls through.

The killing thing is also explained. He's been in combat zones and had some dangerous jobs.

You meet a character later in the story that explains why he acts how he does and what she did to him as a child and why.

The MC here is a bit similar to Terminus in that he has a lot of power however this game leans more towards not killing all the things being the better answer.

However unlike Terminus he isn't the most powerful. You meet a lot of things that are more than capable of killing him and you have to decide how to deal with it. It does have a few game over choices if you try and fight one of those.

It's also explained about the company he works for dealing with weird shit so its not all totally new to him.

 

[Arigon]

If you'd followed continued the story you'd know he'd been cut off from his emotions as a child.

ftfy

This is an acceptable excuse if the story had lampshaded or mentioned that in some way. At no point in the story to the point that I read did anyone mention he'd been "cut off from his emotions." Female lead never mentioned that it was extremely bizarre that he was so okay with killing. Alexander didn't note how strange it was that he was so unaffected by everything. I think his incompetent friend might have mentioned that he was normally cold or something along those lines, but that's the closest I remember and hardly enough evidence to assume magical shenanigans.

My initial response to a character being a hyper competent, stone cold killer is not to assume magical bullshit, it's to assume the author is dropping some sort of Mary-sue self insert, especially when the evidence (every other characters' reactions) suggests there's nothing strange about it. I'm a bit of a cynic when it comes to writing, especially in sex games where porn logic reigns supreme.

That said, it reassures me that there's an excuse for Alexander's behavior. His actions and lack of reactions really made the early story a mess in my opinion. Talothral seemed like a better writer than this in Sentinel's Reach, so maybe I should have had more trust in him. That said, the main character in Sentinel's Reach was the same sort of hyper competent, stone cold killer, though he had a good justification from the first moment of the story. I just assumed that hyper competent, stone cold killer was the type of character Talothral liked as his main character, regardless of how he came to be that way.

I might go back and continue Sorcerer based on this information. I definitely felt Talothral was setting up an interesting political landscape, even though I quit pretty early on. As long as Alexander isn't some sort of psychopath without a single character noticing or caring, my main point of contention falls through.

The killing thing is also explained. He's been in combat zones and had some dangerous jobs.

You meet a character later in the story that explains why he acts how he does and what she did to him as a child and why.

The MC here is a bit similar to Terminus in that he has a lot of power however this game leans more towards not killing all the things being the better answer.

However unlike Terminus he isn't the most powerful. You meet a lot of things that are more than capable of killing him and you have to decide how to deal with it. It does have a few game over choices if you try and fight one of those.

It's also explained about the company he works for dealing with weird shit so its not all totally new to him.

Also Ava, Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't both his adopted family and the nuns mention his emotional cylinders not all firing up at some point? Other than the two nuns he was close to, and his employer/family, I thought it was made pretty clear that the bunch he saved from death in the Middle East were his only "friends".

Am I mis-remembering that? That was why I thought his teaming up with the Gorgons was perfect.

The Dev's protagonist in Terminus Reach was even more cut off from his emotions I think, but wasn't that a product of being a telepathic god?

I admit that for both stories it has been a little while.

For this one, I think I was laughing my ass off when the pixie or fairy or whatever did the size adjusting for sex. NOT the dwarf like computer wiz turned Sorcerer!

Anyhow
Peace


PS
The real important Question!!!!!????
Do you love Gorgons like you love Nos?

 

[JJDrakken]

If you'd followed continued the story you'd know he'd been cut off from his emotions as a child.

ftfy

This is an acceptable excuse if the story had lampshaded or mentioned that in some way. At no point in the story to the point that I read did anyone mention he'd been "cut off from his emotions." Female lead never mentioned that it was extremely bizarre that he was so okay with killing. Alexander didn't note how strange it was that he was so unaffected by everything. I think his incompetent friend might have mentioned that he was normally cold or something along those lines, but that's the closest I remember and hardly enough evidence to assume magical shenanigans.

My initial response to a character being a hyper competent, stone cold killer is not to assume magical bullshit, it's to assume the author is dropping some sort of Mary-sue self insert, especially when the evidence (every other characters' reactions) suggests there's nothing strange about it. I'm a bit of a cynic when it comes to writing, especially in sex games where porn logic reigns supreme.

That said, it reassures me that there's an excuse for Alexander's behavior. His actions and lack of reactions really made the early story a mess in my opinion. Talothral seemed like a better writer than this in Sentinel's Reach, so maybe I should have had more trust in him. That said, the main character in Sentinel's Reach was the same sort of hyper competent, stone cold killer, though he had a good justification from the first moment of the story. I just assumed that hyper competent, stone cold killer was the type of character Talothral liked as his main character, regardless of how he came to be that way.

I might go back and continue Sorcerer based on this information. I definitely felt Talothral was setting up an interesting political landscape, even though I quit pretty early on. As long as Alexander isn't some sort of psychopath without a single character noticing or caring, my main point of contention falls through.

Are you sure you read anything? Honestly? All of that is literally explained, lol. Now I fully believe your just trolling or have very low reading comprehension, either way no point in trying interact with you anymore.

 

[Talothral]

Generally speaking, the issue with the stories I write is that failure means death 95% time because you go against other people (or beings) of power who, if we are honest, don't have any reason to keep the MC alive, and I'm not the type to write "stupid evil" in the sense that they monologue long enough for reinforcements to arrive, no they kill and move on. The remaining 5%? 4% of it is crippling injury and 1% is survival via divine intervention, which you don't really want to use more than once per story, at best.

This paints the characters as "hyper competent" easily, and due to the nature of interactivity, failure states can be negated by making the right choice. Now, I don't have problems killing major characters either. But again due to the nature of the medium, being interactive, there is 0 reason for me not to offer the path where the deaths can be avoided. Alexander can die several times due to wrong choices (day 8, 13, 17 (linked to, day 13), 28 (thereabout), 33/34, 35, and even on day 37 from the top of my head).

Then there is the issue of time, the stories don't pace themselves the main characters' time, they are on a global clock so to say. Events will march forward regardless, had the MC been injured at any point, Tamara would have still gone through her plans. Either failing or succeeding and in the latter case probably come back to kill the MC for failing her. Could such a branch be written? Sure, it's just writing, but it wasn't in the scope of the story I wanted to tell. Although, it might make an interesting story in itself. Hmmm... Something to think about.

And Arigon Garrett wasn't cut off from his emotions, he just doesn't know how to display them. There are more instances of him showing emotions in TRS2 as he is learning to express them (one notable being sorrow of sorts if he had kids with Naelae). Half of a lifetime of conditioning isn't easy to shake, no matter what.

 

[Rex Blue]

The Dev's protagonist in Terminus Reach was even more cut off from his emotions I think, but wasn't that a product of being a telepathic god?

Telepathic god and child trained assassin if I remember correctly. Dude was understandably not in a good mental place.

 

[Canto Forte]

MC in this game was devoid of emotion as a wrap of protection from his angel, literal angel bombshell.
MC in that one was devoid of human feels once he got his powers, as they hindered his control.
Also, the love of his life is a powerful telepath with same affliction, huge power sometimes comes with sacrifice.

 

[Avaron1974]

Do you love Gorgons like you love Nos?

Answer the more important question first and... yes.

I've always loved unique models and for years very few games gave me that. The closest to anything "out there" was Reluctant Archon with the female Orc model.

So imagine my joy at finding Terminus and nearly all the LI's being alien and looking it. We see aliens in most games and they are basically human green or blue skin. I can't complain, I know most won't like what I like so it's never bothered me but seeing the aliens of Terminus was awesome for me.

Not only that but Nova is a fucking goddess.

Then Sorcerer came.

To go with "out there" things there are my 2 main kinks, women with muscle and older women. So this gives me Li as a fuck buddy and damn right i'm having me some of that. Not only that i've got demons, gorgons, trolls, pixies and old woman orgies.

Then there is Dagna.

Huge muscle woman, oh yes fucking please. Leader of the demon hunters, another muscle woman. Not as hot as Dagna but for a second playthrough sex session I won't complain.

Lets just say if they had also given me the option of having a female protag I would have needed shares in Duracell for the amount of batteries I would have gone through.

Also Ava, Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't both his adopted family and the nuns mention his emotional cylinders not all firing up at some point? Other than the two nuns he was close to, and his employer/family, I thought it was made pretty clear that the bunch he saved from death in the Middle East were his only "friends".

It's been a while since I read this part so may misremember the conversation but with him being a latent sorcerer they were worried about him awakening and being a danger to everyone around him.

I believe it was Maria that cut his emotions off so he wouldn't be ruled by them and be able to look at things logically. Kind of like a magically powered Vulcan (nerd bitch, oh yes I am).

So they blocked his magic and severed his emotions and got angry at his Dragon which was mean.

 

[Dylan741]

I believe it was Maria that cut his emotions off so he wouldn't be ruled by them and be able to look at things logically. Kind of like a magically powered Vulcan (nerd bitch, oh yes I am).

So they blocked his magic and severed his emotions and got angry at his Dragon which was mean.

Yep, it was Maria, there's the entire flahsback scene where she perform the ritual on Alexander after he nearly died from his power peaking and almost killing him.

 

[Canto Forte]

Are y”all sayng the MC had already awakened all those years before,
angel babe sealing his wings inside for safe keeping?
Now we know what nudge MC needed to shed his angel cocoon
and let those beautiful mothra wings spread across his babes.

 

[Rex Blue]

Are you sure you read anything? Honestly? All of that is literally explained, lol. Now I fully believe your just trolling or have very low reading comprehension, either way no point in trying interact with you anymore.

All of that is explained AFTER I stopped reading. Readers are given no reason to understand why Alexander is emotionally dead until at least after the religious fanatic attack. No other character expressed confusion or horror at emotionally dead Alexander until at least after this point. Given that his responses are inhuman given even a basic understanding of the species, I was lead to believe that this was the result of a lack of character depth. Instead, it appears that the reason was...?

I can't really come up with a reason why Japanese magical girl wasn't at least a little baffled by Alexander's lack of emotional response to killing. He told her he was in acquisitions and I think I remember him suggesting he'd gotten into a skirmish or two, but there's a far cry between that and execution killing people. Even before that point, Alexander shows almost no emotional response to the revelation that magic is real and a soul is in his possession. You'd think she'd be more than a little weirded out by his deadpan reception of these facts. Instead, she makes no response that I could remember.

Let's juxtapose this with Fate/Stay Night. Shirou is emotionally fucked to hell and back. He is aware of the fact that he's emotionally fucked. He understands what normal emotional responses are supposed to look like and attempts to ape them. Rin quickly realizes how absolutely head-fucked he is. All of this occurs before anything is stated explicitly about WHY any of this occurred.

In Sorcerer, Alexander is head fucked. If he's aware of this fact, he doesn't mention it. He doesn't attempt to copy normal human responses, nor does he suggest a reason why he doesn't bother. The first major character we are introduced to in the story doesn't notice despite the fact that she's given three different powerful emotional situations in which to see how head fucked he is. This is what I was presented with in the beginning of the story.

Now that I've completely explained my reasoning, am I still trolling? I feel like the introduction to Sorcerer is weak because we, the readers, are not made aware that the writer or any of his characters are aware of the fact that Alexander is emotionally dead. I'm going to give the game a run back at this point to see if I missed any glaring tells. I understand that it might be a big reveal at some point as to why Alexander is emotionally dead, but the author could easily have lampshaded things without revealing everything all at once with just a throw away comment from Japanese magical girl. In fact, I'd say it's bizarre that Japanese magical girl DIDN'T remark on the point unless she had no idea how human emotions are supposed to work. Maybe that's some sort of big reveal as well. Dunno, didn't get that far.

 

[Avaron1974]

I can't really come up with a reason why Japanese magical girl wasn't at least a little baffled by Alexander's lack of emotional response to killing.

Mainly because it's all normal to her.

People are always being killed in her world.

 

[Rex Blue]

Mainly because it's all normal to her.

People are always being killed in her world.

So she's never once met a person from outside of her world? I find that a little hard to believe with how hard she was talking about how much she wanted to be normal and act like a normal person. That implies she has some idea what normal is and she knows she is not it. It also implies she'd have some reason to be suspicious or at least weirded out by Alexander's lack of response to magic and killing both.

 

[Canto Forte]

Now you can finally understand why psychos are most of American serial killers.
Thay attract girls by the car load and wreck their hearts and their minds with their stiff uncaring responses.
Welcome to the chill intriguing allure of cold calculated murder.

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