VN Ren'Py Stormside [v0.23.1.4] [Atemsiel]

[HiP1]

My interest in Olivia is much greater than my interest in Jade, and my interest in Olivia is rather small.

I initially brought up Jade as an example to show how shallow and one dimensional the current Olivia is.

Your interest in Olivia, even if very small, is only there because she can have a romantic path because of her status as a main LI and nothing else at all. you admit it yourself.

 

[HiP1]

What? Her story is simple. She is a nymphomaniac and uses sex as get favors from men. She already has fucked half the town and has the stats to prove it. She is a simple one-dimensional character as expected of a side-li

dude, her stats says she fucked only 50 times including MC... that's less than once a week for a year in a monogamous relationship. that's hardly nympho level.
if she fucked once everyday, it would mean she lost her virginity less than two month before she was chipped.
anyone starting a new passionate relationship, if they had the opportunity, they would fuck every single day, until the passion decreases or real life creeps in. you would not call them nymphos...
so no, she didn't fuck half the town. she has the highest stats among the girls in the academy though. and she isn't shy about what she wants.

Of course she's a slut. But this is F95, where a character can literally cheat on the MC and do lines of coke off her dealer's foreskin and yet still if you call her a slut, the white knight legion will promptly arrive to scold you.

where did you see a white knight ? everyone said she is a slut. xD

She is certainly not just a slut, she is a slut and nymphomaniac more than willing to use sex to achieve her goals. In fact, as far as I know, she has already proposed sex in exchange for immunity to the MC. Which makes me even less interested in the MC having sex with her (and before reaching that point my interest was zero)

Otherwise, I'm only interested in LIs with which the MC can have a romantic relationship. Apparently the second year girls aren't going to have any of that, so I'm not interested in them (none of them), but I'm even less interested in Jade than the rest.

not to defend Jade, but if you take a more pragmatic point of view to her situation, she likes sex a lot, she likes MC (at least, she finds him attractive enough), she hates pain and punishment, and if you accept her offer she finds out she loves sex *with MC*. moreover, she signed the contract, so unless she does anything to change her situation, she will receive punishments and pain, and MC is free to touch her sexually anyway. she has to obey him anyway. and as far as she knows, he might abuse his position as she doesn't know him yet.
so it makes sense to proactively make the offer. it's win win for her. nothing to lose, everything to gain.
it's at least interesting that she is the first to realize it and the first make the offer.

 

[wiseold6996]

His (her) stats seem high on his (her) masturbation and the number of his (her) orgasms, okay, but since when have we been counting?
Concerning her 50 vaginal sexual relations, nothing more extraordinary than a normal couple's relationship lasting a few months. Nothing says she fucked "half the town".

The progress of the game will tell us what to think.

By the way, I love this game! <3 <3 <3
Congratulation Atemsiel !

Edit : thank you for correcting me BlasKyau

Lol you yourself know that there is a far higher chance that those 50 came from 50 different guys than 1 guy. Also considering 2000+ masturbation and the also the equally high orgasm rate, she was also not fucking everyday. Considering the personality she has shown so far, it is highly likely she was making similar kind of deals previously too. Maybe for money, grades or some personal favor. Thinking about it she is likely closer to a whore than a slut.

dude, her stats says she fucked only 50 times including MC... that's less than once a week for a year in a monogamous relationship. that's hardly nympho level.
if she fucked once everyday, it would mean she lost her virginity less than two month before she was chipped.
anyone starting a new passionate relationship, if they had the opportunity, they would fuck every single day, until the passion decreases or real life creeps in. you would not call them nymphos...
so no, she didn't fuck half the town. she has the highest stats among the girls in the academy though. and she isn't shy about what she wants.



where did you see a white knight ? everyone said she is a slut. xD



not to defend Jade, but if you take a more pragmatic point of view to her situation, she likes sex a lot, she likes MC (at least, she finds him attractive enough), she hates pain and punishment, and if you accept her offer she finds out she loves sex *with MC*. moreover, she signed the contract, so unless she does anything to change her situation, she will receive punishments and pain, and MC is free to touch her sexually anyway. she has to obey him anyway. and as far as she knows, he might abuse his position as she doesn't know him yet.
so it makes sense to proactively make the offer. it's win win for her. nothing to lose, everything to gain.
it's at least interesting that she is the first to realize it and the first make the offer.

Yeah she is the only one who made the offer because the other girls are not interested to drop their panties within 5 secs of meeting the mc

 

[YogSothoth1982]

not to defend Jade, but if you take a more pragmatic point of view to her situation, she likes sex a lot, she likes MC (at least, she finds him attractive enough), she hates pain and punishment, and if you accept her offer she finds out she loves sex *with MC*. moreover, she signed the contract, so unless she does anything to change her situation, she will receive punishments and pain, and MC is free to touch her sexually anyway. she has to obey him anyway. and as far as she knows, he might abuse his position as she doesn't know him yet.
so it makes sense to proactively make the offer. it's win win for her. nothing to lose, everything to gain.
it's at least interesting that she is the first to realize it and the first make the offer.

And all those who do something like that, will receive no for an answer, as she has received. Anyway, I have no interest in punishing her either; the option I want for all second year girls is neither sex nor punishments. As I have indicated, I am only interested in purely romantic routes. So, I haven't any interest in second year girls.

I initially brought up Jade as an example to show how shallow and one dimensional the current Olivia is.

Your interest in Olivia, even if very small, is only there because she can have a romantic path because of her status as a main LI and nothing else at all.

And that doesn't make it any less true.

you admit it yourself.

Of course.

 

[Ekzou]

Lol you yourself know that there is a far higher chance that those 50 came from 50 different guys than 1 guy. Also considering 2000+ masturbation and the also the equally high orgasm rate, she was also not fucking everyday. Considering the personality she has shown so far, it is highly likely she was making similar kind of deals previously too. Maybe for money, grades or some personal favor. Thinking about it she is likely closer to a whore than a slut.

All I'm saying is that I'll wait until the rest of the game to find out more.
Concerning her sexual relations with a third person, then I am not saying that she has only had one man in her life, I was just pointing out that the number was not so high to consider her a slut/whore .
But let's admit that she started her sexual life as a couple at say 16 or 17 years old, even if she had even 5 or 6 different boyfriends, the number is not at all high (she is 22 years old I think ).
Anyway, the future may tell us more about his sexual past, I don't think it's necessary to speculate on who/what/how much/why...I prefer to wait and see.
Your point of view is valid, I also think that mine is not improbable.

Concerning the number of masturbations, orgasms that she has, I confirm that the number is high, but that does not mean that she is a slut/whore but just a girl who loves sex yes and who gives herself a lot of pleasure alone.

She gets closer to the MC because she finds him charming and doesn't like pain (her vision can be understood I think).

Wait and see!

 

[hello.jpg]

I like the 'see past history' mechanic a lot, it's fun, but I've now realised a big potential problem: the kind of people that come out of the woodwork to obsess over the numbers

 

[HiP1]

And all those who do something like that, will receive no for an answer, as she has received. Anyway, I have no interest in punishing her either; the option I want for all second year girls is neither sex nor punishments. As I have indicated, I am only interested in purely romantic routes. So, I haven't any interest in second year girls.



And that doesn't make it any less true.



Of course.

yep.
the point that I raised was just that Jade is a better character than Olivia, she has more personality/nuances (not by much) even though she only appears in two scenes. Olivia's only redeeming quality is something that doesn't exist in the game at the moment. if the game is abandoned tomorrow like many other games before, then that redeeming quality will never materialize.

 

[YogSothoth1982]

I like the 'see past history' mechanic a lot, it's fun, but I've now realised a big potential problem: the kind of people that come out of the woodwork to obsess over the numbers

You can always choose the option to reset the values to zero and not know the previous ones. It's what I did.

yep.
the point that I raised was just that Jade is a better character than Olivia, she has more personality/nuances (not by much) even though she only appears in two scenes. Olivia's only redeeming quality is something that doesn't exist in the game at the moment. if the game is abandoned tomorrow like many other games before, then that redeeming quality will never materialize.

The way I see it right now, I have very little interest in Olivia, and I have no interest in Jade at all. If it were the other way around, Jade a main LI and Olivia a side girl, then I wouldn't be interested in Jade at all and neither would Olivia.

 

[Merlin-Magic]

The previous comments about Olivia are very interesting. She is a character that is easy to dislike on many levels. She is also possibly the most complex character in the game. It is apparent to me that she is quite intelligent but also broken in many ways. Why she is broken remains to be seen (hopefully). From the pole (on Patreon) it is pretty obvious that many people want to publicly humiliate Olivia. I personally think this would be a waste of game space that could be better used to find out what is really going on in that mind of hers. There is a lot going on in this game and until I played through it 5 times I did not catch many of the things I see now.

 

[MaxRichard]

The previous comments about Olivia are very interesting. She is a character that is easy to dislike on many levels. She is also possibly the most complex character in the game. It is apparent to me that she is quite intelligent but also broken in many ways. Why she is broken remains to be seen (hopefully). From the pole (on Patreon) it is pretty obvious that many people want to publicly humiliate Olivia. I personally think this would be a waste of game space that could be better used to find out what is really going on in that mind of hers. There is a lot going on in this game and until I played through it 5 times I did not catch many of the things I see now.

Couldn't agree more. There's a real opportunity to show that behind her bitchy facade lies something more interesting. Perhaps a broken girl as you say who yearns for love she never got to experience in her family. It would be super lazy and shallow to have the current setup to her character resolve as publicly humiliation only... which is why I think AVN fans don't always make great plot suggestions

At the risk of repeating myself, this actually dovetails into my own wishes for what the 3 paths in the game would represent: slave <-> humiliation, corruption <-> seduction, romance <-> true love (w/ a touch of harem, naturally)

Right now I feel the corruption and slave paths are way too similar, given the degree of corporal punishment. Other top tier games I have played recently IMHO toe a better line by focusing corruption on a sense of lust and depravity, not of actual corporal punishment. I'll keep my fingers crossed my point resonates across with Atemsiel... (even though the irony is not lost in me that I, too, am an AVN fan making a plot suggestion)

 

[YogSothoth1982]

The previous comments about Olivia are very interesting. She is a character that is easy to dislike on many levels. She is also possibly the most complex character in the game. It is apparent to me that she is quite intelligent but also broken in many ways. Why she is broken remains to be seen (hopefully). From the pole (on Patreon) it is pretty obvious that many people want to publicly humiliate Olivia. I personally think this would be a waste of game space that could be better used to find out what is really going on in that mind of hers. There is a lot going on in this game and until I played through it 5 times I did not catch many of the things I see now.

Since I have no intention of sending any LI to the punishment or slave routes, Olivia only has the options of romance or none at all. For now the second is the one that attracts the most.

 

[RuthBlackett]

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[DrFree]

I think this is the first time I see someone using the shrink eyes effect on Honey Select characters, let alone for comedic purposes, but it was genius. I noticed it during the Hikaru push-ups and then the yelling match between Akemi and Olivia, and those were both great.

 

[wiseold6996]

Couldn't agree more. There's a real opportunity to show that behind her bitchy facade lies something more interesting. Perhaps a broken girl as you say who yearns for love she never got to experience in her family. It would be super lazy and shallow to have the current setup to her character resolve as publicly humiliation only... which is why I think AVN fans don't always make great plot suggestions

At the risk of repeating myself, this actually dovetails into my own wishes for what the 3 paths in the game would represent: slave <-> humiliation, corruption <-> seduction, romance <-> true love (w/ a touch of harem, naturally)

Right now I feel the corruption and slave paths are way too similar, given the degree of corporal punishment. Other top tier games I have played recently IMHO toe a better line by focusing corruption on a sense of lust and depravity, not of actual corporal punishment. I'll keep my fingers crossed my point resonates across with Atemsiel... (even though the irony is not lost in me that I, too, am an AVN fan making a plot suggestion)

Nah making her a broken girl under a bitchy facade is boring. I mean there are already so many games in this site that has same plot playing out. Her being actually bitchy and being a spoiled brat would actually be new and interesting.

 

[HiP1]

The previous comments about Olivia are very interesting. She is a character that is easy to dislike on many levels. She is also possibly the most complex character in the game. It is apparent to me that she is quite intelligent but also broken in many ways. Why she is broken remains to be seen (hopefully). From the pole (on Patreon) it is pretty obvious that many people want to publicly humiliate Olivia. I personally think this would be a waste of game space that could be better used to find out what is really going on in that mind of hers. There is a lot going on in this game and until I played through it 5 times I did not catch many of the things I see now.

there is nothing complex about Olivia at all. she also didn't display a shred of intelligence yet. Akemi displayed mountains more intelligence, even Jade showed more even if it was just to fuck MC xD. Olivia is a very classic trope for now. and if the dev goes to the easy ultra overused trope of bitch hiding a broken/soft side, I would be disappointed. there is no need for always going for the "i can fix her" solution she could just be a super spoiled bitchy brat through and through, and MC takes it from there. while she remains a super bitch to everyone else, MC becomes the single exception besides her dad.
the dev had good ideas for the other girls, so I remain hopeful

Nah making her a broken girl under a bitchy facade is boring. I mean there are already so many games in this site that has same plot playing out. Her being actually bitchy and being a spoiled brat would actually be new and interesting.

amen, brother

 

[Merlin-Magic]

there is nothing complex about Olivia at all. she also didn't display a shred of intelligence yet. Akemi displayed mountains more intelligence, even Jade showed more even if it was just to fuck MC xD. Olivia is a very classic trope for now. and if the dev goes to the easy ultra overused trope of bitch hiding a broken/soft side, I would be disappointed. there is no need for always going for the "i can fix her" solution she could just be a super spoiled bitchy brat through and through, and MC takes it from there. while she remains a super bitch to everyone else, MC becomes the single exception besides her dad.
the dev had good ideas for the other girls, so I remain hopeful

I did not say anything about Olivia being soft or that she could be fixed. I also never mentioned the "intelligence" of any other character in the game. As far as being complex, I guess that is just my my opinion as compared to any other character in this game. None of the characters in this game are highly complex compared to some other games. One of the things that makes Olivia's intelligence in doubt is the fact that her personality is so messed up that it is difficult to see the intelligence she has. It is not necessary for anyone else to agree with this. There are many paths in this game and a player can choose the ones they want. With some of the paths the entire picture is not revealed for many of the characters.

 

[MorallyLucky]

I'm interested in checking out the second year girls' outfits and height/weight info only to be surprised they're featured in th Magistrate menu but not in the profile menu.

 

[SerHawkes]

Limely Girlfriend-Romance/Sub Arc.
Childhood Bestie-Romance/Sub Arc.
Russian Dolly-Romance/Sub Arc (lean more Sub)
Resident Masocist-Romance/Sub Arc
Older Sis-Sub Arc for sure.
Resident Bitch Queen-Public Cock Sleeve.

 

[Wicks99]

Nah making her a broken girl under a bitchy facade is boring. I mean there are already so many games in this site that has same plot playing out. Her being actually bitchy and being a spoiled brat would actually be new and interesting.

Yea, not only is the broken bitch concept an overused old chestnut, it's also difficult to pull it off convincingly. There needs to be good writing plus enough time committed to that character for players to experience the gradual change.

With the huge number of LIs spread across 3 routes each in Stormside, there isn't enough space for that. The few games that manage this successfully all have adequate time devoted to that character (for e.g. Hana of Pale Carnations, that bitchy girl from DIK, Hana of Now & Then).

Commercially, I doubt wasting significant space to build up a broken bitch Olivia plays to the game's strengths i.e. many multiple paths for many LIs to mix an match.

 

[SlothOnMeth]

Does Olivia have to be "broken" for there to be a change in character later on?

Maybe you (MC) can just convince her through various means to not act like a huge bitch anymore. Maybe the change is something she sees as being to her benefit eventually and not some trauma unpacking at all.

I think trying to lean into or avoid specific tropes makes the issue more complicated than it has to be.