Unreal Engine Subverse [v0.9] [Studio Fow]

[Joshua Tree]

Wow, you didn't even realize your "response to this dude" was so bad and without sense that I didn't even bother to reply meanwhile you believe it was so great it "still stands". Since EA cancellation people were complaining about FOW censoring them - on reddit, on Steam, on KS, now here. But for you, your response stands strong: "they allow some critique (hidden in "feedback" topic so someone who wants to check discussions before purchasing won't see negative threads) so you must be in the wrong, just don't be an ass". Even kids just keep saying they are right when proven wrong but they at least know it, they

Even by a quick glance now, there is a thread that is "negative" about price and quality. Surprise! It's not deleted. Maybe it got something about how people portray themselves? Also the feedback thread isn't exactly hidden when being pinned at the top of the screen with 1000+ posts in it...

If people want to check out before purchase, then check the reviews would be a more natural thing. Creators/devs on Steam is not able to delete reviews.

People can cry all they want about they delete all negative comments and feedback, but when you can prove that wrong by just browse through a thread that have such, it just turns silly. Sort of fall into same category as people who open threads on this forum about mods censor them and how bad the mods is for doing so. Mods doesn't like it when people sperge threads and posts about the same stuff over and over again, they like to contain it, in one place.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

I see this went down the usual rails. So I'll just explain my point and be done with it. There are rules here, even in a pirate forum. There are mods here, just like in FOW's discord and website. That is just standard, and not something to get conspiratorial about. There are plenty of posts that critique the game and have not been removed. It would only get removed if it went too far (i.e saying something reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal dumb), or its something that's been repeated numerous times enough that its already been noted, so its removed to avoid clutter. Now can we all relax?

 

[Pikachu2k]

Conveniently ignoring the not really unreasonable question why the updates have stopped appearing on Kickstarter for no good reason. Maybe copy & pasting them is too much work? Okay then.

 

[fricknaysh420]

It's only a few for a number of reasons: 1) its 0.1, the amount given is just enough to be unlocked by what's currently in the story. I'm sure if they'd packed in like 20 for each girl so far, there'd be complaints that there's no way to get everything at the current build.

2) They've explained that they only put a small amount of animations in there to see if the system functioned properly, and to gain initial feedback. Imagine if every animation had been done already, but then it turned out (as comments here and elsewhere show) that not everyone liked it? That'd be a whole lot more work to redo.

I mean yeah i can imagine them releasing everything and then something goes wrong with the animations. then you get a bunch of entitled jackasses going like "HoW CoMe AnImAtiOns bAd!!! mE suPoRTed SinCE DaY 1!!!!! I ExPeCt AAA QUaLitY!!!! REEEEE!!!!" when porn games will never satisfy the consumer in there base state nor reach AAA Quality

 

[Joshua Tree]

Conveniently ignoring the not really unreasonable question why the updates have stopped appearing on Kickstarter for no good reason. Maybe copy & pasting them is too much work? Okay then.

From the kickstarter page....

"Greetings, friend. Sorry, for the confusion.

Fowchan announced this on our Discord server back on the 26th of April.

"We will be posting all our future news/developer diaries on

You must be registered to see the links

You can comment, make friends and chat over on

You must be registered to see the links

"

-Fowchan"

Is it to much work for you to got to their site?

 

[Asia Argento]

.13 and its on steam for nearly 30 bucks? I'd laugh if I didnt want to feel sorry for those who bought it.....

 

[fricknaysh420]

.13 and its on steam for nearly 30 bucks? I'd laugh if I didnt want to feel sorry for those who bought it.....

considering that there are worse games that release for $60 or $80 this isnt that bad of a purchase.

 

[Honest Pirate]

.13 and its on steam for nearly 30 bucks? I'd laugh if I didnt want to feel sorry for those who bought it.....

dont forget that STEAM takes 30 % of the price !

 

[Joshua Tree]

dont forget that STEAM takes 30 % of the price !

Pirates take 100% and they still complain, go figure

 

[fricknaysh420]

Pirates take 100% and they still complain, go figure

I like to separate complain and criticize. most people that complain are just mental and nitpick. the critics actually provide some good feedback. which there rarely any of those lol people go monke brain in forums a lot it seems

 

[Joshua Tree]

I like to separate complain and criticize. most people that complain are just mental and nitpick. the critics actually provide some good feedback. which there rarely any of those lol people go monke brain in forums a lot it seems

I meant more more complain about the "value" of their free gains... As for critics, I like to read critics, feedback etc where the poster actually post something structured and not reflect the tantrum of a 5yr old.

 

[Pikachu2k]

Is it to much work for you to got to their site?

This is just stupid and most likely intentionally missing the poing again by a mile, but was to be expected.

So then why are they continuing to post the full-length updates on Steam? Too much work for people there to go to their site?

Why was that announcement initially only made on Discord? Too much work for them to post it as a regular update on Kickstarter?

And when it did show up on Kickstarter two weeks later, why not as a regular update (which would give backers an email notifaction about it) but just in the general comments section (which doesn't)? Too much work to handle that?

So of course you're attacking me instead for being lazy because it's unthinakable to maybe, just maybe your idols you want to suck up could have handled something in a less than perfect way.

Aside from that, the statement does contain exactly zero explanation, which the guy who posted it (supposedly a team member) even does admit when asked again about it. Not that this matters to you in your holy crusade to defend everything.

 

[Joshua Tree]

This is just stupid and most likely intentionally missing the poing again by a mile, but was to be expected.

So then why are they continuing to post the full-length updates on Steam? Too much work for people there to go to their site?

Why they are posting full length updates on their primary site of selling the game? Yeah imagine that....

 

[Pikachu2k]

Why they are posting full length updates on their primary site of selling the game? Yeah imagine that....

Your mental gymnastics are impressive in their absurdity.

That's still not the main issue which you still do everything to not address, because you obvioussly can't (and why should you, since as much as you may idolize FOW, they probably don't even know about their relentless cheerleade) and certainly wouldn't if you could, because there's no good reason.

But not offering that really simple to achieve courtesy to the people who gave them the money in the first place to even be able to build something to sell on Steam, that's totally fine and not even a bit ungracious in your option, I guess. Got it.

 

[Joshua Tree]

Your mental gymnastics are impressive in their absurdity.

That's still not the main issue which you still do everything to not address, because you can't and certainly wouldn't if you could, because there's no good reason.

But not offering that really simple to achieve courtesy to the people who gave them the money in the first place to even be able to build something to sell on Steam, that's totally fine in your warped mind. Got it.

You know the people that got steam keys for supporting them on kickstarter, get all updates to the game through steam right?

You REALLY digging deep to make a big issue out of a nothing burger...

 

[Pikachu2k]

You know the people that got steam keys for supporting them on kickstarter, get all updates to the game through steam right?

You REALLY digging deep to make a big issue out of a nothing burger...

This still does not answer the question. Of course.

It's indeed not that big an isssue, but strangely enough you're spending a LOT of effort to dispute, belittle and distract from it so that nothing at all might tarnish your idols.

I really should know there's no point in arguing with cult members, but unfortunately sometimes I can't help myself.

 

[Grand Koala]

high profile porn game in the west? thats a good sign ^^ i hope it becomes a trend. i wouldve bought this one but steam doesnt seell it in my region. so thx!

 

[arpaschad]

.13 and its on steam for nearly 30 bucks? I'd laugh if I didnt want to feel sorry for those who bought it.....

I think that's the standard price you pay for the whole game from now until it eventually gets finished...not sure...someone mentioned it here somewhere many pages back...

but then again some people have more disposable income than sense in paying for a demo...

but what do I know:

Yo ho! thieves and beggars...never shall we die...

 

[Joshua Tree]

I think that's the standard price you pay for the whole game from now until it eventually gets finished...not sure...someone mentioned it here somewhere many pages back...

but then again some people have more disposable income than sense in paying for a demo...

but what do I know:

Yo ho! thieves and beggars...never shall we die...

tbh, 30 bucks up front vs pledge to some creator that spend 3+ years on make a game... I rather pay up front any day. They said price would go up once the game out of early access though.

A demo doesn't get updated with new content as time go on though. A demo stay a demo. See those people that start to cry about links for updates and cracks when the game get updated? Those that bought it get all that free of hassle at a click of a button on steam.. no added cost..

 

[arpaschad]

tbh, 30 bucks up front vs pledge to some creator that spend 3+ years on make a game... I rather pay up front any day. They said price would go up once the game out of early access though.

A demo doesn't get updated with new content as time go on though. A demo stay a demo. See those people that start to cry about links for updates and cracks when the game get updated? Those that bought it get all that free of hassle at a click of a button on steam.. no added cost..

Like you said It's better to pay upfront...

and since you mentioned the price will go up once the game does get finished the more reason why it is better to wait for the full-priced product than this early access stuff...