Joshua Tree

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Oh, no, I get that 100%. I am saying that, in the ideal world, they would've been able to release a good game in one go. But, seeing this early access and what kind of content they have, it is good that they decided to release it like this. Though, I will be honest, it shouldn't take one a lot of brainpower to come to a conclusion that those scenes weren't the best, especially since they were kinda into making porn animations. With that being said, their porn animations, often, were fairly average in its content too.
Well. If you look at ACTUAL games as whole. They don't bring out the GOOD stuff right from the start in a game. That is rewards you get in the game as you trudge along. It's not like you play like a d&d or something and loot a "sword of fire +4" or something silly from the first bandit you come across. Early access is just a teaser imho.
 
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Well, the store page itself says its dripping with "RETRO NOSTALGI". And tbh I think it was rather fun, and a throw back to actually playing such games back then. It would you that be the "dim witted " to buy a game getting upset with it being RETRO when they sell themselves as.....
Ok, i see the problem now. Maybe they mislead us with all that big titted half dressed characters, and the main focus of the game was retro shmup. Silly me to think that porn studio will focus on porn in their game. Probably the same mistake with me waiting total war from creative assembly, or elder scrols from bethesda.
 
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Ohh please no.

Wild Life does that thing that most dynamic scene change games do where characters either slide around like everything is made out of ice, or teleport/clip through the other character they are fucking when trying to change position. Its the biggest boner killer.

And having to try to move the camera into a decent looking position, but also having to fight how close/far you can get from the characters, means I have to spend more time fiddling with the control then actually being able to enjoy the looping 5 second animation.
You obviously havent checked wild life recently. They have started to make fully animated, camera cut sex scenes with transitions, pose progression and decent foreplays and climaxes. The latest build has 5 of those scenes added with around 20 animations each. Meanwhile subverse took 2 years to add 27 independet loops to their otherwise rather simple gamescope? Thats what Wild Life puts out in a month and they even look better since the devs take the time to animate the entire scene and not just what you see (movable cameras)
 
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Joshua Tree

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Then later it does speak some gameplay, about turn based combat, your spaceship is your HQ. But that doesn't last long and talks about hot babes and sexual scenes.

Are you being obtuse to not understand sex is the selling point of Subverse?
I never said the adult content is not the selling point of the game..... But my emphasis is on GAME first, sex, adult content, porn whatever second... Some seems to be all about the lewd bits and the rest is just fluff they don't want to deal with at all.
 

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Well. If you look at ACTUAL games as whole. They don't bring out the GOOD stuff right from the start in a game. That is rewards you get in the game as you trudge along. It's not like you play like a d&d or something and loot a "sword of fire +4" or something silly from the first bandit you come across. Early access is just a teaser imho.
Just that they said clearly that all porn will be in pandora mod - 2sec loops with zero dialogs and plot.
 

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Was about to buy this on release. THANKS FUCKS that my Patreon money hadn't arrived to my paypal yet...

It's not awful, just boring. Voice acting is good. Dialogues sometimes good, sometimes give me the cringe. Gameplay is pretty much a no-brainer, not bad, for space invader fans, but to compare itself with Mass Effect... The only thing it has going for it is the space map.

The sex part is...well, if I want to look at animated 3D porn clip, I can go to porn sites. Aside from the Recruitment scenes (And those aren't even good), all the other scenes have no connection to the story, which is a huge minus for me. No interaction with the girls either. It's just that, a porn clip. A well made one, but still...
 

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Just that they said clearly that all porn will be in pandora mod - 2sec loops with zero dialogs and plot.
As you clearly someone deeply interested in plot and story... Care to give us a recap of the actual plot and story then?

Would the game be better served with have the lewd content tied into actually story and character interaction? Sure. The scenes in pandora more or less a gallery you can unlock scenes and revisit at own leisure. Should think those that just want to fap to this stuff would be happy in that regard :p
 

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As you clearly someone deeply interested in plot and story... Care to give us a recap of the actual plot and story then?

Would the game be better served with have the lewd content tied into actually story and character interaction? Sure. The scenes in pandora more or less a gallery you can unlock scenes and revisit at own leisure. Should think those that just want to fap to this stuff would be happy in that regard :p
Plot: you supposed to be capitan on a ship full of sluts, but they have sex with you only by sending you 2sec clips when you sleep.

Sure if you are banned from any porn outside subverse, you are 14 and having boner is almost constant condition, having instant access to loops is nice. But most of us are not banned from pornhub. So we prefere our porn flavored with plot.
 
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Well. If you look at ACTUAL games as whole. They don't bring out the GOOD stuff right from the start in a game. That is rewards you get in the game as you trudge along. It's not like you play like a d&d or something and loot a "sword of fire +4" or something silly from the first bandit you come across. Early access is just a teaser imho.

People have issues with lack of interactivity, lack of dynamic scenes and overall lack of content when it comes to fetishes and actions present in the scenes. Your reply is that "good stuff don't come until later" and then you compare sex scenes in porn game with loot in an rpg game. This analogy is braindead. Also, if there are "more dynamic and interactive" sex scenes in the full game but they decided to not show any single one in early access, well, that is just a weird move; or, it shows that scenes won't get much more interactive and dynamic, which is what people have issues with.
 

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People have issues with lack of interactivity, lack of dynamic scenes and overall lack of content when it comes to fetishes and actions present in the scenes. Your reply is that "good stuff don't come until later" and then you compare sex scenes in porn game with loot in an rpg game. This analogy is braindead. Also, if there are "more dynamic and interactive" sex scenes in the full game but they decided to not show any single one in early access, well, that is just a weird move; or, it shows that scenes won't get much more interactive and dynamic, which is what people have issues with.
No, it's about progression. If you expect that all the "good" scenes (even, being in pandora) would be there already at first release in early access, that not really on the game though, that on you.
 

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No, it's about progression. If you expect that all the "good" scenes (even, being in pandora) would be there already at first release in early access, that not really on the game though, that on you.
good 5sec loops you mean. Now game have no complete scenes.
 

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good 5sec loops you mean. Now game have no complete scenes.
Don't bother, no matter how "good" of a loop it is, it's still just a loop. Or if he somehow means that the "good" one will suddenly have tie to the plot, that's a possibility, but to be honest, the ones that DO tie to the plot right now, are nothing more than loops too.

They made it clear what their stance is regarding how sex scenes are shown.
 

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I never said the adult content is not the selling point of the game..... But my emphasis is on GAME first, sex, adult content, porn whatever second... Some seems to be all about the lewd bits and the rest is just fluff they don't want to deal with at all.
You are acting like the game part of this is actually good enough to carry the weight. It's not. Game mechanics lack the depth to make it enjoyable in the long run. It's just barely good enough to not be a total drag if the game delivered on the porn. As it stands, none of the components that make this game can stand on it's own merits, be it the gameplay, story, or porn. They are not even integrated into a fluid package either.

Mind you, I was interested in the game for the gameplay rather than porn since beastiality and wacky ass characters/story are not my thing.
 

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The main draw of this game was always the sex. It's not a "game that happens to contain sex," but a "sex game with gameplay." If Subverse did not advertise the sex then barely anyone would care, but it's obvious they put that shit out there. The damn front page has the line "Engage your dicks - it's time to fap."

If the sex scenes are mediocre then it's not surprising why some people are upset. Given how many early access games just... implode for no reason, it's obvious why people would worry.
 
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