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Joshua Tree

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Exactly. So the logical conclusion would be that...

...people (mostly as in: the one who gave them money upfront on Kickstarter) want to play a FOW game because of the story? And not the porn?

Sure.
I thought they wanted to play a game regardless of the story or not, because that was what the kickstarter for...
 

Pikachu2k

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I thought they wanted to play a game regardless of the story or not, because that was what the kickstarter for...
I'm trying to figure out if you're intentionally misinterpreting what I said or not. Probably the former as that would fit right within your usual framing.
 

poyane

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Hi everyone, i'm stuck on this game, i finished all quests until I unlocked the Pandora's scene with the Red horned girl (pretty good anime tho) but since the Act II started, there's no more quests, i've interact with everybody on the ship, do all the planet battle. Still nothing.

My last unlock are the 2nd girl (the red one as said) and Napholeon.

Am I missing something ?
 

Joshua Tree

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I'm trying to figure out if you're intentionally misinterpreting what I said or not. Probably the former as that would fit right within your usual framing.
All the game elements is described in the kickstarter, so if people did back it for other reasons, that would be on them right?
 

Joshua Tree

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Hi everyone, i'm stuck on this game, i finished all quests until I unlocked the Pandora's scene with the Red horned girl (pretty good anime tho) but since the Act II started, there's no more quests, i've interact with everybody on the ship, do all the planet battle. Still nothing.

My last unlock are the 2nd girl (the red one as said) and Napholeon.

Am I missing something ?
Once you do the huntress mission, the early access ends. It says so in the quest log on the bridge too..
 

Pikachu2k

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All the game elements is described in the kickstarter, so if people did back it for other reasons, that would be on them right?
I must have missed the part where the pitch stated "will contain only minimum amount of porn with almost no relation to the rest".

Obviously FOW was counting on people backing their thing based on the conception that it would at least be remotely close to their movies - pretending that to be otherwise is highly hypocritical.

But you do you, it's hard to miss that you'd defend them to the last drop of blood no matter what anyway.
 
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SajuukKhar

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From what it looks like from this game, it's going to show others that they can put in the minimum possible effort and still make a profit.
If this is minimum effort what are things like summertime Saga, Wild Life, and all these DAZ 3D VNs? No effort games?
 

Gwedelino

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If this is minimum effort what are things like summertime Saga, Wild Life, and all these DAZ 3D VNs? No effort games?
Subverse is a game big enough to have his own dramas, don't bring more games to the discussion...
 

Archonde

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Holy shit guys, it's a fucking game for you to jerk off, not something like Cyberpunk who promised many things and delayed it so many times, to end up being a complete broken shit.
Also, i see many people complaining about the sex scenes. Should I remind you that, apart from very few games, the rest of the sex scenes in other games are a visual novel without sound and that the only mechanic in the entire game is click in one of the two options?
Hell, this game is only in V0.1 and it has dubbed dialogues, 4/5 hours of gameplay and although for now they are only loops, actually animated sex scenes.

I see it like a total win.
 

TheUnsaid

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I must have missed the part ... almost no relation to the rest".
Then you're deaf.
They specifically said that you have to unlock the scenes, and that you can AVOID scenes that you don't want to see... so people who don't want to see dog-fucker heroines don't have to.

You think the adult scenes can matter if they're COMPLETELY AVOIDABLE?

The fact that you didn't see this coming is on you.
minimum possible effort
I say this as someone who dislikes the game greatly.
You've got to be joking.
 

Pikachu2k

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They specifically said that you have to unlock the scenes, and that you can AVOID scenes that you don't want to see... so people who don't want to see dog-fucker heroines don't have to.

You think the adult scenes can matter if they're COMPLETELY AVOIDABLE?

The fact that you didn't see this coming is on you.
I'm pretty sure all of that was not even remotely detailed during the funding phase. And the first details given for Pandora were a LOT more complex than what we ended up getting as well.

And strangely enough I've read a good amount of VNs with H scenes that are completely integrated in the plot on PC and not included at all on Switch, but somehow they managed to make both versions feel fully seamless with at best minimal changes done to the rest.

That said, I did expect to whole thing to at best be okay-ish, just not that the most disappointing thing would be the one they've built their name on previously.
 

Readerf2b

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Holy shit guys, it's a fucking game for you to jerk off, not something like Cyberpunk who promised many things and delayed it so many times, to end up being a complete broken shit.
Also, i see many people complaining about the sex scenes. Should I remind you that, apart from very few games, the rest of the sex scenes in other games are a visual novel without sound and that the only mechanic in the entire game is click in one of the two options?
Hell, this game is only in V0.1 and it has dubbed dialogues, 4/5 hours of gameplay and although for now they are only loops, actually animated sex scenes.

I see it like a total win.
And here we dont have sex scenes at all - its just loops with no context to them. Comparing gameplay is pointless, no one will play it for gameplay.
 

Joshua Tree

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And here we dont have sex scenes at all - its just loops with no context to them. Comparing gameplay is pointless, no one will play it for gameplay.
Ignore whatever they said about what to come and just judge it all on the early access release. At same time we should create a big dumpster fire and throw every 0.1 release of any game on this site that isn't released as a full game with it right?
 

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Holy shit guys, it's a fucking game for you to jerk off, not something like Cyberpunk who promised many things and delayed it so many times, to end up being a complete broken shit.
Also, i see many people complaining about the sex scenes. Should I remind you that, apart from very few games, the rest of the sex scenes in other games are a visual novel without sound and that the only mechanic in the entire game is click in one of the two options?
Hell, this game is only in V0.1 and it has dubbed dialogues, 4/5 hours of gameplay and although for now they are only loops, actually animated sex scenes.

I see it like a total win.
Its unfortunate that folks can't share positive opinions or outlooks on the game, else they're called a shill fanboy. And the ones that are vehemently pessimistic are generally just people who've been burned by AAA titles so much they just can't help but see the worse case scenario in everything.
 

Joshua Tree

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Its unfortunate that folks can't share positive opinions or outlooks on the game, else they're called a shill fanboy. And the ones that are vehemently pessimistic are generally just people who've been burned by AAA titles so much they just can't help but see the worse case scenario in everything.
You can't really rate Subverse as an AAA title though (maybe if you just confine it in a niche of adult games). As the guy from the review linked earlier said, you don't get much game for 2 mill (or what he said) nowadays, hence early access for injection of funds...

Problem is at large people buying into early access and go "what? is this all?", not really grasping early access at all. I'm all for valid critic. There been some nice reviews around that pointed out both upsides and downsides. Some people just take it to far imho. Take like F76 and Cyberpunk as example. They became everyones favorite to dogpile on. People had to overdo each other in serve up the biggest pile of shit to be the most relevant.
 
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