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I will give one Ex(sorry that you will have to take my word for it but like most of the posts about this on steam got deleted)
When people asked on steam about NTR the official response was something like “It's not because there is no relationship with the characters” or about the scenes not being part of the story “Well that was the intention”.
People did not inflate and if they did FOW could clarify before the game hit steam.
Tbf answers on steam are coming from the moderators, who aren't official reps of the studio. That's why I regularly post this one, which is from the reddit Q&A, and was answered by them directly.

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The game's exe brings out steam. I think the download is not cracked. Can someone confirm this? Maybe you should stop arguing for like 5 pages with 1 person.
 

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The game's exe brings out steam. I think the download is not cracked. Can someone confirm this? Maybe you should stop arguing for like 5 pages with 1 person.
You could just wait for the GoG release Monday, from what I've been reading around that'll be easier to download.
 

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Tbf answers on steam are coming from the moderators, who aren't official reps of the studio. That's why I regularly post this one, which is from the reddit Q&A, and was answered by them directly.

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Was from FOW-Chan account not mhenryblack(the only moderator at the time, this was one of the only times they interact in the steam he other is best to not talk about) the moderator just confirm that they made a mistake and and that even if you don't unlock they still talk about. ”and if you don't like just chose other character”.
It sucks that this has to have the “Trust on me bruh!!”I will see if my friend got some screenshots because he tried to confirm the discord.
 

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Ok let's be honest here the point they put ME they create an expectation bar if they don’t want people comparing don't put the name. The thing is they set out to make a AAA porn game but made a AA game with pron and the reason is simple they dint had a clue what they are making(they admitted they marked some things wrong)


Yes! This stretch goal has been met so we're good to go.

Reading this really makes you think that was a large part ?
Just bringing this back real quick, as I decided to take your thoughts seriously (as you're one of the few here who can debate without losing their shit) and asked a dev directly, took a few hours, but finally got an answer.

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Was from FOW-Chan account not mhenryblack(the only moderator at the time, this was one of the only times they interact in the steam he other is best to not talk about) the moderator just confirm that they made a mistake and and that even if you don't unlock they still talk about. ”and if you don't like just chose other character”.
It sucks that this has to have the “Trust on me bruh!!”I will see if my friend got some screenshots because he tried to confirm the discord.
Hmm...Fowchan's a curious case, as I haven't seen her on the discord in a while now. Her account on FOW's blog also is inactive, so I'm not entirely sure what occurred.
 

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Just bringing this back real quick, as I decided to take your thoughts seriously (as you're one of the few here who can debate without losing their shit) and asked a dev directly, took a few hours, but finally got an answer.

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Ok but let's be honest, read the FAQ. Really looks like the scenes were added because of the goal. Again bad communication that they just said “Yes we made a mistake, are we going to correct? No.)
Here is the thing, I don't see a point in losing my shit, yhea was 70 that I burn but in some way it helped build something that someone will enjoy even if that person will not be me.
 

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Hmm...Fowchan's a curious case, as I haven't seen her on the discord in a while now. Her account on FOW's blog also is inactive, so I'm not entirely sure what occurred.
For what i notice they only use when something needs to be addressed. Like the KS exclusive content.
 

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for me 7 month wait for just noting for the pandora all i get just monsters and chick with dicks banging each other there is a too less for captian
 
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For what i notice they only use when something needs to be addressed. Like the KS exclusive content.
Yeah but even so we occasionally saw her on discord, she'd usually be the one to make announcement pings and such. Her profile was always right at the top. Now its only her assistant. So yeah unsure what happened to her.

I get your argument, but that same logic could also be applied to an earlier milestone. At 100K, there's one that added additional animations for all the ladies. Does that mean there were no scenes planned until that point, or is it adding on what's already planned? The wording may have been poor, I give you that, but I don't think it was that far of a reach.
 

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for me 7 month wait for just noting for the pandora all i get just monsters and chick with dicks banging each other there is a too less for captian
There's a fair balance of mantic and captain content. Do keep in mind that the Captain also appears in tease, after shots, and some of the crew animations, not all of his content is strictly dick in hole so to speak.
 

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Yeah but even so we occasionally saw her on discord, she'd usually be the one to make announcement pings and such. Her profile was always right at the top. Now its only her assistant. So yeah unsure what happened to her.

I get your argument, but that same logic could also be applied to an earlier milestone. At 100K, there's one that added additional animations for all the ladies. Does that mean there were no scenes planned until that point, or is it adding on what's already planned? The wording may have been poor, I give you that, but I don't think it was that far of a reach.
Thats is why i using the FAQ if you check question about the animation:

”Will the sex scenes be animated or are you just gonna cuck us with stills and voiceovers? There will be animations, of course!”

It's not like they are saying: ”We add animations thanks to the goal”
 

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There's a fair balance of mantic and captain content. Do keep in mind that the Captain also appears in tease, after shots, and some of the crew animations, not all of his content is strictly dick in hole so to speak.
ı know i just dont like futas and monsters thats all
 
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Ok but let's be honest, read the FAQ. Really looks like the scenes were added because of the goal. Again bad communication that they just said “Yes we made a mistake, are we going to correct? No.)
Here is the thing, I don't see a point in losing my shit, yhea was 70 that I burn but in some way it helped build something that someone will enjoy even if that person will not be me.
Or, counter point, the absolute least authoritative source of what Studio Fow promised in the past would be studio fow in the present.

Followed closely of course by VValen, the Fow Stan with his easily documentable discord track record and thread behavior. We have the screen grabs, archives, and pre release promotional material saying otherwise. And all the other media sources shared and fostered to say things "they didn't say" that directly led to backer perception and support.

Some of the new "descriptions" also make the "no NTR" (nonplayer sex in front of the player current tag definition) thing even more a lie in the face of "(paraphrasing) the captain's away so now I have to fuck these tentacles" and other such gems. On top of the fact nothing is optional, just not unlockable. Some of the new descriptions make that pretty clear it's happening and you as the captain must be viewing it after the fact. The equivalent of not having to watch a certain red horned demon pay your wife a visit.

Different strokes, but considering the captain has a "I cucked you fair and square" world view, he in narrative would view himself as a cuckold over the goings on in his own ship even if you the player are just along for the ride as a 4th wall observer. Note even in the first build he took offense at the idea Demi was spending any time, at all, with the horny demon crewmate due to the fact she's his sexbot and he's a horny 3 balled alien. Contextually it doesn't matter what we think or feel playing the game, the character has his own canonical response to this. People also generally don't like a character done dirty like that. If you actually like the space austrialian, why would you want to watch him get fucked over and led along with these promises of transactional sex? But this gets into the writing and it's whole other set of issues.

Didn't have to be like this either. Wildlife has a nifty solution; in their storymode it's strongly hinted you're going to ultimately become a beastman and you'll be able to watch all the scenes from a first person PoV and/or player perspective. Sandbox play you already can pilot and play the beast characters. Other games roll out similar "you have a new body and/or were always a dragon and/or..." narrative framing that makes the player or a player foil the one getting laid in most content (that thing subverse still lacks, framing)

They had the perfect solution here too, you the genetic progenitor of all the mantics pilot them in battle and they're otherwise passive and nonsapient as stated. The whole "living bred weapons loyal to one commander" plot is kind of wrapped up in this sort of thing. Easy framing from there is first person/3rd person PoV monster sex is of the player as a monster. Considering the fact the target demographic of Fow content was and still is furries/beast enthusiasts many/most people would probably have preferred the captain as a means to one end: having a dragondildo dong via such a narrative framing.

It could have even easily been part of this update with the little dialogue descriptions (in leu of actually making the scenes contextual) which would have explicitly made mantic sex MC content and interrelate it with the combat playloop. Instead here we are.
 
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Or, counter point, the absolute least authoritative source of what Studio Fow promised in the past would be studio fow in the present.

Followed closely of course by VValen, the Fow Stan with his easily documentable discord track record and thread behavior. We have the screen grabs, archives, and pre release promotional material saying otherwise. And all the other media sources shared and fostered to say things "they didn't say" that directly led to backer perception and support.

Some of the new "descriptions" also make the "no NTR" (nonplayer sex in front of the player current tag definition) thing even more a lie in the face of "(paraphrasing) the captain's away so now I have to fuck these tentacles" and other such gems. On top of the fact nothing is optional, just not unlockable. Some of the new descriptions make that pretty clear it's happening and you as the captain must be viewing it after the fact. The equivalent of not having to watch a certain red horned demon pay your wife a visit.

Different strokes, but considering the captain has a "I cucked you fair and square" world view, he in narrative would view himself as a cuckold over the goings on in his own ship even if you the player are just along for the ride as a 4th wall observer. Note even in the first build he took offense at the idea Demi was spending any time, at all, with the horny demon crewmate due to the fact she's his sexbot and he's a horny demon 3 balled demon. Contextually it doesn't matter what we think or feel playing the game, the character has his own canonical response to this. People also generally don't like a character done dirty like that. If you actually like the space austrialian, why would you want to watch him get fucked over and led along with these promises of transactional sex? But this gets into the writing and it's whole other set of issues.

Didn't have to be like this either. Wildlife has a nifty solution; in their storymode it's strongly hinted you're going to ultimately become a beastman and you'll be able to watch all the scenes from a first person PoV and/or player perspective. Sandbox play you already can pilot and play the beast characters. Other games roll out similar "you have a new body and/or were always a dragon and/or..." narrative framing that makes the player or a player foil the one getting laid in most content (that thing subverse still lacks, framing)

They had the perfect solution here too, you the genetic progenitor of all the mantics pilot them in battle and they're otherwise passive and nonsapient as stated. The whole "living bred weapons loyal to one commander" plot is kind of wrapped up in this sort of thing. Easy framing from there is first person/3rd person PoV monster sex is of the player as a monster. Considering the fact the target demographic of Fow content was and still is furries/beast enthusiasts many/most people would probably have preferred the captain as a means to one end: having a dragondildo dong via such a narrative framing.

It could have been part of this update with the little dialogue descriptions in leu of actually making the scenes contextual, which would have explicitly made mantic sex MC content and interrelate it with the combat playloops. Instead here we are.
Red horned demon, seeds of chaos? I forget lmao
 
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