Captain Kitty

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You don't need to rewrite your bizarre metaphor. I understand that you believe that because you have written two porn games that somehow qualifies you in being a master of writing erotic fiction and the rest of us are lowly simpletons unable to comprehend your vision or give any note worthy feedback. Let me explain this for you in simplest way I can: some of us are offering you feedback for you to take under consideration to improve only what you have. Nothing more. I didn't suggest you had to follow it. I think you have made it quite clear in all your hostile responses that criticism is seemingly taboo for you.

Let me get this straight... I am dumb for having offered you my feedback during the development of your game? I thought that was the sole purpose of a demo? You know that stupid thing called acquiring feedback. I never once imposed that it must happen at all and you're just being unreasonable and are jumping to conclusions.

Please quote me for when I have ever said "I hate this game"? Oh right forgot giving you feedback=dumbness & hater. I just can understand your reasoning at all.
When did I say that I believe I'm a master blah blah blah? When did I say you hate this game? I didn't say that you're a hater either. But now I think you're a whiner after you put your words in my mouth about I think I'm a master.

In the end, about you said I need to learn blah blah blah. Who tell you that I don't learn? I'm still learning from other game developers. I play their games and consider what I could use to improve my games or compare to my games to know what I must change to remove the bad stuff. I just don't learn from people who can't develop a game but keep telling me what to do.

"I focus on developing the game for those who like the game"?

What is it then? Those who like it or just you? Right now all I see is you going on a rampage by being condescending and unwelcoming.
Unlike you, I've been developing for more than a year. And I know there are people like it. If no one like it, this game will be dead soon, don't worry.

Why didn't you explain that to us instead of getting upset and lashing out for having brought that to your attention? What purpose did it serve for you to go on a defensive rant about how we are all dumb haters and making wild assumption that we want to change everything for you?

Somehow I think you're confusing constructive criticism to "FUCK YOU FOR NOT GIVING ME MORE NUDE SCENES NOW!". I don't think it's too much to ask writing a few lines explaining her mood without coming off as a stone cold and reluctant with no explanation as to why. Also I like having to fight and work to win the characters in the harem/no harem route. Build up is always a good thing.
Because you're not a developer of an NTR games, so you don't know anything about what devs like me have to face.

An example for you:
Jealousy demo: the MC can fuck the girlfriend, no NTR scene. => no whiner appeared.
Summer of Love demo: the girlfriend denies to finish the handjob => whining about her 'personality' appear.

You think I don't see this coming? I'm not sure if I said it already or not. But in Jealousy, I was scared that I would face whining like The Engagement, so I started Jealousy with many scenes for the Harem route. But now, I change my way of thinking. I go back to the way I started The Engagement. And just as I thought, whiners started to complain about the 'personality'. What they want is the girl has to be the girl they like, not the girl I want to develop. So, develop a girl for my story, or develop a girl for their taste? Which one should I choose?

:FacePalm: I thought you finally understood the issue was with her mannerisms and not because she didn't give the MC more 'sex'.

You're asking me if you're dumb? I don't think you would be susceptible to any answer other than what pleases you. I am just grateful I don't have your outlook on life because if I did my work would never grow.
My work grows or not, has nothing to do with you for sure. I don't need anyone to lecture me. If you didn't write 'response to the dev', I wouldn't reply your comment.

Finally, I appreciate opinions to improve the game. But opinions to have more scenes for the Harem route or want to change the personality of the characters are not what I want. Because those opinions are from people who want me to develop a game for their own taste. And if I follow their advice, that will become a different game. Many games have NTR tag faced that problem already, even The Engagement - Jealousy. And I don't want to repeat that mistake again.
 
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When did I say that I believe I'm a master blah blah blah? When did I say you hate this game? I didn't say that you're a hater either. But now I think you're a whiner after you put your words in my mouth about I think I'm a master.
You behaved like you are a maestro of your craft with your line of vines and apples. Then write you have nothing to learn except from those you deem to be worthy which must be a very short list. I didn't put any words in your mouth (I don't think I have read you unfairly). I couldn't give a tosh at this point what you want to name me. Trying to reach an accord with you is impossible.

In the end, about you said I need to learn blah blah blah. Who tell you that I don't learn? I'm still learning from other game developers. I play their games and consider what I could use to improve my games or compare to my games to know what I must change to remove the bad stuff. I just don't learn from people who can't develop a game but keep telling me what to do.
"Who told you that I don't learn?" Your attitude did. Any feedback you get is dismissed outright with prejudice and you validate yourself by accusing it as hate/whining/ist/ even when the person is being constructive. The one I gave you wasn't even harsh critique and somehow it has managed to trigger you. Playing their games isn't the same thing as asking them for first hand feedback of your own work. That is like me saying I refuse to take any feedback from my followers because they don't draw but they might have noticed something I missed or overlooked by mistake.

Unlike you, I've been developing for more than a year. And I know there are people like it. If no one like it, this game will be dead soon, don't worry.
I don't see any reason to brag about how hard it is to make ren'py visual novel. I didn't mention anything about anyone not liking it or wanting it to die.

Because you're not a developer of an NTR games, so you don't know anything about what devs like me have to face.
I can't understand hardship because you spent 1 year on a NTR game is crossing it. If you want to be any kind of creator you need to grow a thicker skin. You're not the only one that has been given critique of the creation of their work. I don't understand how pointing out that character has no context to explain their attitude in the story equals to wanting more Harem route or want to change the personality of the characters.
 

Captain Kitty

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You behaved like you are a maestro of your craft with your line of vines and apples. Then write you have nothing to learn except from those you deem to be worthy which must be a very short list. I didn't put any words in your mouth (I don't think I have read you unfairly). I couldn't give a tosh at this point what you want to name me. Trying to reach an accord with you is impossible.



"Who told you that I don't learn?" Your attitude did. Any feedback you get is dismissed outright with prejudice and you validate yourself by accusing it as hate/whining/ist/ even when the person is being constructive. The one I gave you wasn't even harsh critique and somehow it has managed to trigger you. Playing their games isn't the same thing as asking them for first hand feedback of your own work. That is like me saying I refuse to take any feedback from my followers because they don't draw but they might have noticed something I missed or overlooked by mistake.



I don't see any reason to brag about how hard it is to make ren'py visual novel. I didn't mention anything about anyone not liking it or wanting it to die.



I can't understand hardship because you spent 1 year on a NTR game is crossing it. If you want to be any kind of creator you need to grow a thicker skin. You're not the only one that has been given critique of the creation of their work. I don't understand how pointing out that character has no context to explain their attitude in the story equals to wanting more Harem route or want to change the personality of the characters.
Discussing with you is a waste of time. For short: I don't want to learn from you or listen to you. If you think it's easy to develop a game, start to develop your own story and enjoy it.
 
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No, leaving you feedback or the poor fools that spend their time writing a review for your game was the waste of time because you'll never read it.

FYI: I already do. Graphic novels are my specialty. I just don't scare off my audience with my narcissism while going into self induced rage about how I never want to learn from their feedback.

Good day to you sir.
 

Captain Kitty

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No, leaving you feedback or the poor fools that spend their time writing a review for your game was the waste of time because you'll never read it.

FYI: I already do. Graphic novels are my specialty. I just don't scare off my audience with my narcissism while going into self induced rage about how I never want to learn from their feedback.

Good day to you sir.
Already developed but still don't know that people have different opinions.
Just like I said, enjoy your game.

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This is how these games should be played, conquest, otherwise real defeat.
Leane 2 could have been like this, imagine conquering that whole Harem in hard mode? running over the NTR, it would be incredible.
Win (Harem) or Lose (NTR), that's how this game is running. It also has the boundary outcomes (Romance with girl A but NTR with girl B...). People who can't accept that they might lose will whine about NTR even though this is just a demo. I'm still waiting for complains about the women aren't real in reality when at the same time they don't want to have NTR in the game (which is real in reality).
 
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I like this game just the way it is even after just a demo. Nina looks petite and cute with a good body and sexy boobs. She looks innocent at first glance but as it turns out, has the potential to be unfaithful and cheat on you. This always adds juicy drama to games and Captain Kitty has some great dialog in his game story lines. I can't wait to see how this game progresses. :love:

The only thing I wish there was more of in EVERY game out there were scenes with deep kissing, like the kind in Milfy City, for example. For me, that takes the level of both being faithful and/or being unfaithful up a level just from showing a sense of passion between the characters. Even if that's not possible for whatever reason, I do believe that this game will still be another winner in my book, especially if the sex sound files are there like in the last couple of games. :love:
 

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I like this game just the way it is even after just a demo. Nina looks petite and cute with a good body and sexy boobs. She looks innocent at first glance but as it turns out, has the potential to be unfaithful and cheat on you. This always adds juicy drama to games and Captain Kitty has some great dialog in his game story lines. I can't wait to see how this game progresses. :love:

The only thing I wish there was more of in EVERY game out there were scenes with deep kissing, like the kind in Milfy City, for example. For me, that takes the level of both being faithful and/or being unfaithful up a level just from showing a sense of passion between the characters. Even if that's not possible for whatever reason, I do believe that this game will still be another winner in my book, especially if the sex sound files are there like in the last couple of games. :love:
Coronavirus doesn't allow them to kiss.

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Summer of Love has 4 routes. But we can also say it has 2 routes (Harem + Girls only / Swinging + NTR). So, the game isn't built to serve a specific genre.

At the moment, there are only Harem-maniacs and NTR-haters complain. I'm pleased that they say they won't play anymore. And I'll be very pleased if they really won't play at all when this game is done.

In my opinion, the contents between 2 routes are even. So who thinks this game is leaning towards NTR can make sure that it will be also like that in the future. I don't need to ask you to think this game is even like me. And of course, no matter what you complain, I won't add more scenes for any specific route.

Only one thing, why didn't I let Nina finish the handjob when I knew they would complain?

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