VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[Fun Shaundi]

But we do know Vic's last name is Frohn, and the Frohn's were seen in the original WiaB at Relucia. Based on how Noji reacts to the Frohn name, I'm pretty sure the Frohn's haven't been seen in the reworked WiaB yet. Chances are WiaB is Willy impregnating everyone, populating Wollust single handledly or causing everyone's parents to die and starting every trauma, like the best daddy ever...

That's my point, we know Victoria is a Frohn, but we never got this girl's last name.
So far, reworked WiAB is kinda following original WiAB's story, with the exceptions of some character behavior tweaking (Miru and Katie being the most obvious) and some small story tweaks.
Wouldn't surprise me if Ocean also reworked some other characters' introductions. I could be wrong, but the gas station girl had Vic's eyes, skin tone, hair and similar facial structure, so I just thought I would add it.

And yes, chances are Willi is the father of at least half of the characters we've seen in SG so far lol. At least Ayua, Nika and Nami seem somewhat confirmed.

 

[silverchariot23]

Why are there spiders in opening of both games?

 

[dkitten]

Is Summer back yet or still gone?

 

[DEVIL18]

Lol

 

[Mr_Mister]

Why was the "Said fight" cinematic removed?

he removed all the cinematics and the original songs of that sequence , fight with Sai , getting away from the classroom and Nami trying to punch Bella.
the fight scene now it's funny 'cause the first punch that the mc throw it's so bad , that looks like a bitch slap !

 

[Ali ibn Hassan]

Is Summer back yet or still gone?

She's not around at present

 

[Spywareau]

Is there still no sexual content in this game? Is the prompt just for chapter one?

 

[captainamericarino]

Does the 4.5 full update include any reworks of Chapter 2?

 

[yossa999]

Is there still no sexual content in this game? Is the prompt just for chapter one?

There are lots of sexual and exciting content in this game. There are no explicit porn scenes, no dick has ever penetrated a pussy in this game yet. The prompt is correct for the entire game.

Does the 4.5 full update include any reworks of Chapter 2?

Yep, 4.5 full contains about a half of the reworked Chapter 2. And it has some pretty interesting differences from the old version.

 

[BobTheDuck]

That's my point, we know Victoria is a Frohn, but we never got this girl's last name.
So far, reworked WiAB is kinda following original WiAB's story, with the exceptions of some character behavior tweaking (Miru and Katie being the most obvious) and some small story tweaks.
Wouldn't surprise me if Ocean also reworked some other characters' introductions. I could be wrong, but the gas station girl had Vic's eyes, skin tone, hair and similar facial structure, so I just thought I would add it.

And yes, chances are Willi is the father of at least half of the characters we've seen in SG so far lol. At least Ayua, Nika and Nami seem somewhat confirmed.

The reason I'm thinking the Frohn's that we see in the pre-rework WiaB are legitimate is the linking of Relucia, the mention of Mila and Bella in the drinks, and the sudden change in renders post the forest scene. Also, the Frohns were stock market people, so completely feasible that Vic and Maja are living off their inheritance. My gut feeling is Ocean found what he wanted to do after that WiaB forest scene: we suddenly see the better models and better renders, and he realised it was better to start again than retrofit. But there's so many things preshadowing SG in that last section of the old WiaB that I think those details will remain.

I'm curious as to the earrings - I'm wondering if Leia used them as a way to identify Elysium "staff", I guess it really depends on how much of the original passes through and what the intentions were...

 

[SolarWindCatcher]

he removed all the cinematics and the original songs of that sequence , fight with Sai , getting away from the classroom and Nami trying to punch Bella.

well it's good there is old version, someone will mod 4.5 full so it get back all removed parts and old music

 

[PaxHadrian17]

yeah i get that my initial comment was in regards to steam in general. I've known a few games from here that have had to tone down significantly for steam release especially AVN's with Non-Con/Rape, BDSM, and other more traditional 'Hardcore' content.

steam seems to be following the current trend on the greater internet the last 5 or so years to clamp down on "oh no icky content offends my delicate sensibilities we must sanitize the internet so snowflakes don't have any chance to run into content in the wild internet that upsets them"

I wish Steam and Patreon would just adapt several variations on 'Adult' content the way the MPAA (Motion Picture Association in the U.S.) does:

R
X
XXX

Define what can/cannot be included at each level and put a warning about the VN/game when you do the download - read and accept (or no download) that neither Steam nor the creators of the entertainment you are about to download are responsible for the potential bruising and anguish your sensibilities could suffer if you continue. You acknowledge that you wear big boy/girl pants, and you accept the responsibility for your choice to continue this download.

Once agreed - there is no whining and clutching your pearls because, gasp - that is the MC's Mom/Dad/Brother/Sister/Aunt/Uncle engaged in adult behavior with adults that are of legal age in the country where you live.

There are limits - no snuff film equivalents and so forth, but the above would cover the vast majority of even mainstream hardcore.

Ocean should not have to dance around the issue of the MC and Nami being siblings with the same parents just to avoid the Patreon and Steam Police.

There should be no need to constantly patch SG to bring back the original relationships.

Stepping down off my soap box...

 

[Uriel ☁]

Sup. I call this post "I currently have too much time in my hands, and I'm in need of my SG fix".

Spoiler: SG/WiAB

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Lmao at this point we should make a Will-o-meter to indicate the probability of every SG character being Will's offspring.

My personal pick for Will's potential ones are the twins.

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Twins (hereditary) with different eye colors (very rare in identical twins) and skin tone compatible with WiAB Daisy.

 

[Fun Shaundi]

Lmao at this point we should make a Will-o-meter to indicate the probability of every SG character being Will's offspring.

My personal pick for Will's potential ones are the twins.

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Twins (hereditary) with different eye colors (very rare in identical twins) and skin tone compatible with WiAB Daisy.

Indeed.


However I have a saying for this VN: Everyone is Willi's child until proven otherwise.

By the way, I just noticed how many freckled characters we have in SG.

 

[Turret]

But we do know Vic's last name is Frohn, and the Frohn's were seen in the original WiaB at Relucia. Based on how Noji reacts to the Frohn name, I'm pretty sure the Frohn's haven't been seen in the reworked WiaB yet. Chances are WiaB is Willy impregnating everyone, populating Wollust single handledly or causing everyone's parents to die and starting every trauma, like the best daddy ever...

That's my point, we know Victoria is a Frohn, but we never got this girl's last name.
So far, reworked WiAB is kinda following original WiAB's story, with the exceptions of some character behavior tweaking (Miru and Katie being the most obvious) and some small story tweaks.
Wouldn't surprise me if Ocean also reworked some other characters' introductions. I could be wrong, but the gas station girl had Vic's eyes, skin tone, hair and similar facial structure, so I just thought I would add it.

And yes, chances are Willi is the father of at least half of the characters we've seen in SG so far lol. At least Ayua, Nika and Nami seem somewhat confirmed.

The reason I'm thinking the Frohn's that we see in the pre-rework WiaB are legitimate is the linking of Relucia, the mention of Mila and Bella in the drinks, and the sudden change in renders post the forest scene. Also, the Frohns were stock market people, so completely feasible that Vic and Maja are living off their inheritance. My gut feeling is Ocean found what he wanted to do after that WiaB forest scene: we suddenly see the better models and better renders, and he realised it was better to start again than retrofit. But there's so many things preshadowing SG in that last section of the old WiaB that I think those details will remain.

I'm curious as to the earrings - I'm wondering if Leia used them as a way to identify Elysium "staff", I guess it really depends on how much of the original passes through and what the intentions were...

Hi you all! I think the "Willi does everyone" vibe comes from Ocean laying the foundations for various WIAB playthroughs with different LIs. Certainly Willi will only be responsible for a few pregnancies in any playthrough (we all know throuple is the max), but since some players will go for Leia, Miru, Kati, Daphne, etc. he needs to give out hints for these various paths.
Personally I estimate these SG characters/mentioned persons to be his offspring:

Spoiler: offspring estimate for Willi

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Naturally there are also the probable offspring of Daisy and others, which you found, but I think these are only "canon" if we go after her in WIAB, else this is just a "curious coincidence".

As for the earings, I too am very curious how they come in. There is definitely a reason for them to be present where they are and Leia is a key to this.

 

[Ilhares]

I wish Steam and Patreon would just adapt several variations on 'Adult' content the way the MPAA (Motion Picture Association in the U.S.) does:

R
X
XXX

Minor correction here: X is not an MPAA rating, it was replaced in 1990 with NC-17, because porn films gave themselves the rating rather than waste time in a submission to get an official rating. XXX had never been an official rating.

Spoiler: offspring estimate for Willi

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As for the earings, I too am very curious how they come into it

I have no recollection of Daphne for some reason, but unless she's completely eliminated in the reworking of the game, I still think Sedila is a more likely figure ti be Nami's mother. She had the look and the earrings.

 

[Turret]

I have no recollection of Daphne for some reason, but unless she's completely eliminated in the reworking of the game, I still think Sedila is a more likely figure ti be Nami's mother. She had the look and the earrings.

Hi! I know Sedila from old WIAB and I agree that she fits very well too, but in new WIAB she is currently absent and there was already the "donor talk" with Daphne before Willi and Miru drive to Wollust. So I think Daphne is more likely than Sedila, but it could happen that Sedila pops up soon and then she certainly would be a contender, if not changed much.

 

[Ali ibn Hassan]

Lmao at this point we should make a Will-o-meter to indicate the probability of every SG character being Will's offspring.

My personal pick for Will's potential ones are the twins.

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Twins (hereditary) with different eye colors .

Who the feck's Will? Wonka?

May be that one of the twins suffer from glaucoma and uses drops of prostaglandine and/or beta blockers.
Those drugs have a tendency to darken the colour of the iris.
I've gone from a greenish melée to a darkish blue

 

[Yvier the Duck]

hope robin and ayua can be LIs too.

Sadly Robin is a support character (confirmed by Oceans, but can change his mind, of course) and Ayua is probably related to the MC, that's why I think that Oceans introduce another friend in Bella's group and why the woman in Amber's house looks the MC like that, something remember her about his parents.
Luckily we have a lot of LIs and one time hook ups, but yea, is sad

Talking about Bella's father.
Do you think Bella's sister is dead, or maybe that her father took her sister when he left?

My theory is that Amber caught her husband fucking another woman, they divorced and Amber took Bella and the husband Bella's sister, and she is the girl that Mila's talks when she tell MC about a girl that kill herself. Explain Bella's hate about cheaters, why the woman in the restaurant tell Bella that she is the last person she expect to say that, why no one talk about Bella's sister and why Bella despises Mila.

 

[Turret]

Who the feck's Will? Wonka?

"(whistling) The Candyman can make the world feel good..." Willi Zane, unless you rename him, is the MC of "Where it all began", the prequel game to "Summer´s gone". WIAB plays 20-30 years before the events of SG in the same city of Wollust (giggle, since Wollust is German for Lechery). There are already several hints, easter eggs and stuff from WIAB in SG and vice versa. E.G. the Relucia dinner is already a top notch restaurant in WIAB (if with larger portions, when Willi and Leia are there the size of their dinner is ok).