VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

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Penfold Mole said:
Nika's dark hair is definitely one of the symbols. Sasha's blonde hair likely, too. And Bella's.
Actually, now that you mentioned it, the hair color of characters may be more significant than I've ever realized. The classic question: "Why is Nami red?" gains another dimension. And after Ayua and the other girl changed their hair color partially... What does this mean? o_O

Damnit, Ocean. Even more mysteries :HideThePain:
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The update better come soon, we are starting to discuss the significance of hair colors the thread is in dire need of new material. Jokes aside, a character design is a important aspect of any visual story and given the care that Ocean gives to the visual elements of his story I doubt that they are not thought through. Be it hair color, height, clothes and body type - though we know that Ocean has problem with this one- all come together to help form a character, so I don't think we are reading to much when we think what he may have want to convey with Nika's hair color and I sure as hell want to know why Sasha has her friends dyeing their head half white.
 
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LHDLLB said:
The update better come soon, we are starting to discuss the significance of hair colors the thread is in dire need of new material. Jokes aside, a character design is a important aspect of any visual story and given the care that Ocean gives to the visual elements of his story I doubt that they are not thought through. Be it hair color, height, clothes and body type - though we know that Ocean has problem with this one- all come together to help form a character, so I don't think we are reading to much when we think what he may have want to convey with Nika's hair color and I sure as hell want to know why Sasha has her friends dyeing their head half white.
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I'm calling it... It's an all women's gang (like you'd see in a manga or manhwa) comprised of super cute attractive women that can all beat your ass, and the colours indicates their gang symbol :KEK:
 
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Den1mo said:
if this relationship really happens it will probably be the dumbest thing I've ever seen in history of avn

rich milf who wants relationship with some depressed teenager. she can literally have any man. rich and successful but she will choose someone like Nika. it doesn't even matter how it came about at all but it's completely illogical

I would understand if it was only about some "friend benefit sexual stuff relationship" where Amber wants to fulfill some desires or sexual fantasies. but the real relationship? that is so dumb :ROFLMAO:
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Sorry man, but if we apply your mindset to any game here on F95 probably 99% of MC's would end up alone. But keeping it inside the Summer's Gone world, why any girl would be with MC?
Why Bella would be with him? She is beautiful and rich, she could have any guy and the "crazy" persona would not stop it.
Why Sasha, Mila, Ayua, Zara, Vanessa or any other would? Mila is poor but is hella hot and a good person. Nami also could easily get someone better and with far less problems than MC.
If you apply the logic of "but they have things in common and share traumas, healing and etc", this could be applied to Amber too, she being older doesn't mean she cant have things in common or get attracted to him for some reason. And we are not there yet, so is VERY early to judge, we don't know how Ocean will develop this relationship....very premature to call it dumb.
 
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Adhdclassic said:
Can't wait to see how my route with Mila being in Nikas bed right after kissing Nami. Man I hope I'm still alive to see it. Out of all my routes I've saved this is the one I really want to see what happens. Cherry on the cake would be if Nojiko or Vanessa saw the kiss.
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Kond said:
Sorry man, but if we apply your mindset to any game here on F95 probably 99% of MC's would end up alone. But keeping it inside the Summer's Gone world, why any girl would be with MC?
Why Bella would be with him? She is beautiful and rich, she could have any guy and the "crazy" persona would not stop it.
Why Sasha, Mila, Ayua, Zara, Vanessa or any other would? Mila is poor but is hella hot and a good person. Nami also could easily get someone better and with far less problems than MC.
If you apply the logic of "but they have things in common and share traumas, healing and etc", this could be applied to Amber too, she being older doesn't mean she cant have things in common or get attracted to him for some reason. And we are not there yet, so is VERY early to judge, we don't know how Ocean will develop this relationship....very premature to call it dumb.
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While I agree with you, my problem is less with the realism of a older woman having a relationship with a younger man, Ocean knows how to write relationships and I think he can pull it off. The problem that I see is the doctor/patient aspect of it, SG aims to have a -somewhat- realistic world and in the real world it is problematic to say the least, if he can address that in a believable manner than I have no problem with it, I just can not see how he will do it. Yet.

Adhdclassic said:
Can't wait to see how my route with Mila being in Nikas bed right after kissing Nami. Man I hope I'm still alive to see it. Out of all my routes I've saved this is the one I really want to see what happens. Cherry on the cake would be if Nojiko or Vanessa saw the kiss.
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Nami will be pissed for sure, rightly so. About Nami and Nika being caught by Vanessa, this is only a matter o time, Nami will do something that will lead them to be caught and Vanessa might the lesser problem, there is the report and when in Nami's route once we move out of Nick's house and away from Nojiko... I don't know if poor Nika can survive that, but they will not be alone, how will Milla react or Robin - maybe time to cash in on that favor ? -. I am just hyping myself up and the update still is months away.
 
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BobTheDuck said:
The scene with Sasha is powerful because she brings him back to himself.
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And this scene with Sasha is powerful too because she was the first LI, who directly see his panic attack. The first one, who see that, - and not someone in the MC's past like Noji, or Nami - was Maja. But with Maja, that panic attack was doesn't so powerful then that one in the book club with Sasha. Sasha knows exactly what MC is struggling with, even if she doesn't know the immediate cause.
 
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Penfold Mole said:
Ocean may not have any personal experience of a panic attack, so maybe the way he pictures and describes it isn't accurate enough for those who have. I'm not one to know, so for me they look plausible and believable enough.
But the panic attack scene in the book club was to me one of the most beautifully made scenes of the game so far. Universally understandable and full of symbolism, some of which I may have not even recognized well enough.

Just let me recall it with some samples of the camera work I liked the most:

First render: Medium close-up shot of sweaty looking Nika, description of the first signs of the panic attack. Background music switches to A.W - Darkness Inside. Perfect for the scene.
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Second shot: Camera moves away from Nika (would this be a movie, it would be a lean-out), he becomes smaller, all alone in a large empty room. As if the room is becoming larger compared to Nika, swallowing him (Is that arc in the back meant to look like a mouth about to swallow him or is it just me?)
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Next shot: Nika from behind, the lights seem to go out, darkness falls over his mind.
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- side view of Nika leaning onto the handrail of the balcony as the strength to stand up is leaving him.
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- Medium close-up of Nika in the darkness, instinct to flee overwhelming his mind.
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- A view of the room from down below the balcony, Nika looking for a way to escape in panic. Considering to jump...
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- Nika suffocating, falling down next to the handrail. A single eerie looking light in the darkness, straight into the camera.
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- An angelic silhouette appears, surrounded by the light like a halo.
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- A side view medium close up of Nika and a rather angelic-looking Sasha. The light from behind reflecting from her blonde hair (still a reference to a halo, I think)
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- Sasha puts a pill on Nikas tongue. (Is this a reference to Christian Holy Communion with the pill as the communion bread?)
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- And their hands in close-up as Sasha is holding his hand.
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- Next close up of Nika and Sasha, the normal lights come back, darkness fades. Sasha's hair still lighted from behind.
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- Sasha's concerned face, beautiful close up: "Better?" And the music switching to Vesky - Thinking Of You.
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- Nika and Sasha from behind, standing side-by-side, facing the light from the windows.
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- Sasha and Nika in medium close-up, with Sasha in front and in focus, Nika out of focus. Sasha's side of the image is flooded by the light from the front and back, Nika's side has still a dark background, but he's looking into the light now (if this image is not symbolic, then call me clueless).
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One of the best scenes. Excellent work, IMHO. Even if the panic attack doesn't look real enough or the pill likely can't be what it was called, Sertraline or whatever. I don't care. This scene works perfectly, it's beautiful, I love it.
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BobTheDuck said:
I love the same scene as Penfold Mole, but I also see your point. But there is an element of "why does the MC have black hair?" At some point an author makes choices about the characters that seem superfluous, but they add a dimension to the character rather than functionality. Nika is already broken enough, but the panic attacks specifically deny his sense of self control. This is already present in his ED, but it's easier to show that he doesn't know how to feel normal in all kinds of situations. When neatly dressed up and chatting to people at the bookclub, we can easily assume by his internal dialogue that he feels competent and in control of himself. The panic attacks serve to show that there is a part of him that he hasn't accepted and doesn't know how to face.

The scene with Sasha is powerful because she brings him back to himself. There could easily be a different scene, but why not this scene? It's a great way to show for all NIka's belief he's smart and wise about how to manipulate himself, he isn't in control of as much as he thinks.
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Kond said:
Sorry man, but if we apply your mindset to any game here on F95 probably 99% of MC's would end up alone. But keeping it inside the Summer's Gone world, why any girl would be with MC?
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sure i agree with you. but difference is that priority for SG is realism and i don't think most of those games try to pretend they are doing something realistic. I've seen Ocean say it countless times so why are you creating a relationship that makes no sense? maybe there will be some good reason but if you look at it realistically there is none

as I said i would understand if relationship was based on that they are lovers. like Amber wants to fulfill some fantasies or desires or has a thing for young men. that's totally fine. but I don't see anything there this way
 
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yusufo71 said:
im new and dont know what is patchlewder? do i install it too
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No the lewdpatcher is outdated and will bug the game. If you want to mod the game, ready up on the uncut mod linked on the first page - that does a similar thing but works with season 1. Keep in mind, a modded game might not have compatible saves with season 2, as unffocialy mods tend to do.
 
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