VN Ren'Py Abandoned Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

[BobTheDuck]

A theory came to my mind. Eva tells Bella that there will be a big race in 2 weeks and it is very dangerous. Bella said it wouldn't be a problem either. I'm thinking about the possibility of something happening to Bella in this race. A situation that will result in serious injury, or even worse, death. I think Bella will have a crash in this race.

As everyone knows, in season 1 the game usually leads us to the Bella route. Other LIs don't have much luck. Even when we have the chance to be with other girls in future seasons, I think most people will go the Bella route. But with Bella out of the way due to an accident, there may be a dramatic end for Bella and an equal chance for the other LIs.

Please debunk this theory. Because the only character I want to be with in this story is Bella. If you have any thoughts about this, please share.

There can be no debunking a theory about events that aren't even on the table.

Things that could prevent Bella getting involved - Stefan speaking to her ends up involving officer Cerill, and Bella is unable to attend because she ends up in jail, or with bail conditions. Her car gets stolen by the douches. Something changes with the stability of her sister. Amber grounds her for having too large a dildo collection.

I mean, it's all conjecture. The thing you fear is conjecture, the remotely plausible solutions are conjecture, it's like trying to play basketball with a water balloon, can't even make the dribble last to the basket

 

[Ayhsel]

I miss my baby!!

 

[John972]

A theory came to my mind. Eva tells Bella that there will be a big race in 2 weeks and it is very dangerous. Bella said it wouldn't be a problem either. I'm thinking about the possibility of something happening to Bella in this race. A situation that will result in serious injury, or even worse, death. I think Bella will have a crash in this race.

As everyone knows, in season 1 the game usually leads us to the Bella route. Other LIs don't have much luck. Even when we have the chance to be with other girls in future seasons, I think most people will go the Bella route. But with Bella out of the way due to an accident, there may be a dramatic end for Bella and an equal chance for the other LIs.

Please debunk this theory. Because the only character I want to be with in this story is Bella. If you have any thoughts about this, please share.

I my first thought on reading your post... considering the trauma the MC still has over the loss of Summer, surely the loss of Bella (on that route) would send him over the abyss. It's hard to see him coming back so easily from that.

If that happens, Ocean might as well conclude Summer's Gone, start a new AVN set five years in the future called Summer and Bella are Gone. /s

 

[FunChaser]

A theory came to my mind. Eva tells Bella that there will be a big race in 2 weeks and it is very dangerous. Bella said it wouldn't be a problem either. I'm thinking about the possibility of something happening to Bella in this race. A situation that will result in serious injury, or even worse, death. I think Bella will have a crash in this race.
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Let’s remember what Ocean had planned for Bella route (thanks to lonelyk):
Bella: guaranteed main LI (Dom, Sub and normal routes, could be different now that the game has taken a less dark route, won't be compatible with Amber)
No way can these plans be implemented in two weeks before the ‘fatal’ race, so I hope Bella will survive it. Nevertheless this race was announced, so maybe MC will attend it?

 

[Maviarab]

Let’s remember what Ocean had planned for Bella route (thanks to lonelyk):
Bella: guaranteed main LI (Dom, Sub and normal routes, could be different now that the game has taken a less dark route, won't be compatible with Amber)
No way can these plans be implemented in two weeks before the ‘fatal’ race, so I hope Bella will survive it. Nevertheless this race was announced, so maybe MC will attend it?

She actually isn't/wasn't the main LI....she is however the focus at the start of the VN.

 

[Cabin Fever]

She actually isn't/wasn't the main LI....she is however the focus at the start of the VN.

I think you are conflating "a" main LI with "the" main LI. Bella absolutely is a main LI as Ocean planned from the very beginning.

 

[Ragna The Bloodedge]

I my first thought on reading your post... considering the trauma the MC still has over the loss of Summer, surely the loss of Bella (on that route) would send him over the abyss. It's hard to see him coming back so easily from that.

If that happens, Ocean might as well conclude Summer's Gone, start a new AVN set five years in the future called Summer and Bella are Gone. /s

Yes, it is not a wrong point of view. We just tend to think the worst when it comes to things that are uncertain. But what you said makes sense to me.

Let’s remember what Ocean had planned for Bella route (thanks to lonelyk):
Bella: guaranteed main LI (Dom, Sub and normal routes, could be different now that the game has taken a less dark route, won't be compatible with Amber)
No way can these plans be implemented in two weeks before the ‘fatal’ race, so I hope Bella will survive it. Nevertheless this race was announced, so maybe MC will attend it?

Thank you for your answer, it made me feel a little better. I too hope nothing happens to Bella. But I think I exaggerated too much, it seems like nothing much will happen anymore.

 

[indicent]

loving the story and characters so far. But one thing that really bothered me was the pc's reaction to what nadia and zara did to him. I mean I get the "I did bad shit too and I don't want more enemies" argument he gives, but why should that mean that you have to allow yourself to be handcuffed somewhere nearly naked? And for beating them at a practice game at that. I don't get it.

 

[Deleted member 6613473]

Let’s remember what Ocean had planned for Bella route (thanks to lonelyk):
Bella: guaranteed main LI (Dom, Sub and normal routes, could be different now that the game has taken a less dark route, won't be compatible with Amber)
No way can these plans be implemented in two weeks before the ‘fatal’ race, so I hope Bella will survive it. Nevertheless this race was announced, so maybe MC will attend it?

Maybe this is a stupid question and has been addressed before, so apologies in advance as im quite new, but what from the story thus far gives the impression theres a Dom, Sub and normal route for bella? Which decisions guide you to which route?

 

[Elduriel]

Maybe this is a stupid question and has been addressed before, so apologies in advance as im quite new, but what from the story thus far gives the impression theres a Dom, Sub and normal route for bella? Which decisions guide you to which route?

I don't think that's really relevant any more, there are no such variables afaik in the current version, may have been before the rework. Just like there is no more a "dark" route either

 

[John972]

loving the story and characters so far. But one thing that really bothered me was the pc's reaction to what nadia and zara did to him. I mean I get the "I did bad shit too and I don't want more enemies" argument he gives, but why should that mean that you have to allow yourself to be handcuffed somewhere nearly naked? And for beating them at a practice game at that. I don't get it.

He allows it as a way of manipulating them (MC: "I understand. (I'll let them do it. It's a small price to pay for a win and a few relationship points.)"). MC's playing the long game, although his restraint is admirable considering someone just used Nami's welfare against him.

 

[ObsceneConundrum]

Apologies if this has been asked before—it probably has—but this thread is massive:

1. What is Nami and MC’s relationship? The first two chapters make them out to be blood siblings. They call each other brother and sister, there is a discussion about how weird it is that Nami came out as a redhead, MC says something about “their mom” dying in an accident, and other references. But in Chapter… 3? it starts changing the reference to Nami as a “friend,” there is a comment about how both of their moms died in accidents, but it makes it out like they’re two different women/accidents, and Nami’s flirting is dialed up twelve thousand percent. I’m a bit confused there.

2. Are MC and Nami meant to be half-Japanese? They have Japanese names, and there are several Asian comments; MC seems to comment himself about being half-Japanese, but it’s sort of vague. (And Nami looks like pure Scottish/Irish something.)

 

[JJ1960]

Apologies if this has been asked before—it probably has—but this thread is massive:

1. What is Nami and MC’s relationship? The first two chapters makes them out to be blood siblings. They call each other brother and sister, there is a discussion about how weird it is that Nami came out as a redhead, MC says something about “their mom” dying in an accident. But in Chapter… 3? it starts changing reference to Nami as a “friend,” there is a comment about how both of their moms died in accidents but it makes it out like they’re two different women/accidents, and Nami’s flirting is dialed up twelve thousand percent. I’m a bit confused there.

2. Are MC and Nami meant to be half-Japanese? They have Japanese names, there are several Asian comments, MC seems to comment himself about being half-Japanese but it’s sort of vague. (And Nami looks like pure Scottish/Irish something.)

I think in early versions they were blood siblings, now they are two kids whose parents were both killed and were taken in as wards together since Patreon and other funding sources disallow content with incest.

Many characters in SG are named for characters in the anime One Piece.

 

[yossa999]

Apologies if this has been asked before—it probably has—but this thread is massive:

1. What is Nami and MC’s relationship? The first two chapters make them out to be blood siblings. They call each other brother and sister, there is a discussion about how weird it is that Nami came out as a redhead, MC says something about “their mom” dying in an accident, and other references. But in Chapter… 3? it starts changing the reference to Nami as a “friend,” there is a comment about how both of their moms died in accidents, but it makes it out like they’re two different women/accidents, and Nami’s flirting is dialed up twelve thousand percent. I’m a bit confused there.

2. Are MC and Nami meant to be half-Japanese? They have Japanese names, and there are several Asian comments; MC seems to comment himself about being half-Japanese, but it’s sort of vague. (And Nami looks like pure Scottish/Irish something.)

Here's what the author of the game says about their relationship.


There are mods that change their relationship, but that's up to the modders.

Last time I checked, even the mods mentioned that MC and Nami lost their parents as children, thus Noji is not their biological mother. So it seems like they aren't half Japanese, and if by chance they are, at least Noji has nothing to do with it.

 

[jaw1986baby]

Apologies if this has been asked before—it probably has—but this thread is massive:

1. What is Nami and MC’s relationship? The first two chapters make them out to be blood siblings. They call each other brother and sister, there is a discussion about how weird it is that Nami came out as a redhead, MC says something about “their mom” dying in an accident, and other references. But in Chapter… 3? it starts changing the reference to Nami as a “friend,” there is a comment about how both of their moms died in accidents, but it makes it out like they’re two different women/accidents, and Nami’s flirting is dialed up twelve thousand percent. I’m a bit confused there.

2. Are MC and Nami meant to be half-Japanese? They have Japanese names, and there are several Asian comments; MC seems to comment himself about being half-Japanese, but it’s sort of vague. (And Nami looks like pure Scottish/Irish something.)

Here's what the author of the game says about their relationship.
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There are mods that change their relationship, but that's up to the modders.

Last time I checked, even the mods mentioned that MC and Nami lost their parents as children, thus Noji is not their biological mother. So it seems like they aren't half Japanese, and if by chance they are, at least Noji has nothing to do with it.

And that right there is your undeniable clue that those titles are ONLY for Patreon to leave Ocean alone


NO COUNTRY on planet earth gives young orphans to a random homeowner.

Gov't : Do you own a house?
Nojiko : Yes.
Gov't : Great here are kids, you now have "tenants"

STUPID unrealistic dumb It does not happen. If you want to argue that Nami and MC are not siblings there are 100 clues for that as well but there is no possible way "Landlady" just suddenly has random children renting(??) her rooms.




PEACE

 

[yossa999]

And that right there is your undeniable clue that those titles are ONLY for Patreon to leave Ocean alone


NO COUNTRY on planet earth gives young orphans to a random homeowner.

Gov't : Do you own a house?
Nojiko : Yes.
Gov't : Great here are kids, you now have "tenants"

STUPID unrealistic dumb It does not happen. If you want to argue that Nami and MC are not siblings there are 100 clues for that as well but there is no possible way "Landlady" just suddenly has random children renting(??) her rooms.




PEACE

Bro, I have long lost the desire to argue about anything in this thread.
Especially in debates on this particular topic, which I've been involved in on both sides

I just highlighted some facts that may not be known to the person who asked about their relationship. Now, after reading several posts, including yours and mine, they can decide for themselves what is Nami and MC’s relationship and it is the way it is.

And your appeal to realism is futile, since Wollust is a place in a fictional world, as the author said.

 

[BobTheDuck]

Bro, I have long lost the desire to argue about anything in this thread.
Especially in debates on this particular topic, which I've been involved in on both sides

I just highlighted some facts that may not be known to the person who asked about their relationship. Now, after reading several posts, including yours and mine, they can decide for themselves what is Nami and MC’s relationship and it is the way it is.

And your appeal to realism is futile, since Wollust is a place in a fictional world, as the author said.

I mean, if we want pure literalism, they were a collection of pixels born in Daz when Ocean bestirred his stylus, who's their daddy now?

On a more philosophical note - it's interesting how we have a tendency to suspend all info other than what we've been told, as thought events happen in a vacuum. Adoption is a thing, foster homes are a thing, godparents/guardians are a thing. The facts it's not outlined (like 90% of the instigating plot) is amorphous doesn't mean that Noji is a random. We simply don't know where the dots are to connect anything. The conspiracy theories exist purely so people can home their personal fetishes get included, simply because it's not defined. My brain hurts less if I just treat the speculation as a fun way to pass time rather than trying to define the impossible or locate the precise location of Bertrand's teapot.

 

[Krytax123]

I mean, if we want pure literalism, they were a collection of pixels born in Daz when Ocean bestirred his stylus, who's their daddy now?

On a more philosophical note - it's interesting how we have a tendency to suspend all info other than what we've been told, as thought events happen in a vacuum. Adoption is a thing, foster homes are a thing, godparents/guardians are a thing. The facts it's not outlined (like 90% of the instigating plot) is amorphous doesn't mean that Noji is a random. We simply don't know where the dots are to connect anything. The conspiracy theories exist purely so people can home their personal fetishes get included, simply because it's not defined. My brain hurts less if I just treat the speculation as a fun way to pass time rather than trying to define the impossible or locate the precise location of Bertrand's teapot.

The things is if Landlady and roommate aren’t Codewords for adoptive Mother and (half-)sister it would be super easy and not problematic at all for ocean to display their real relation instead of keeping it vague all the time.

One of them could remember their (different) parents or the time before they lived together.

I mean really? Noji introduces her tenants to her new bf and moves in with them? And pays their college tuition hmm

If there would be no fake relations, things wouldn’t be this vaguely explained

I don’t even like incest but I think everyone trying to deny it at this point is completly delusional

 

[yossa999]

I mean, if we want pure literalism, they were a collection of pixels born in Daz when Ocean bestirred his stylus, who's their daddy now?

I don't think he would have gone that far
But some suspension of disbelief for sure is required for every AVN I've seen so far.
Making Wollust a fictional place in a fictional country allows the author to avoid unimportant and unnecessary disputes about the extent to which Sasha’s mother complies with the lawyer’s guild code of a certain country, or at what age can young people drink beer in a bar.

On a more philosophical note - it's interesting how we have a tendency to suspend all info other than what we've been told, as thought events happen in a vacuum. Adoption is a thing, foster homes are a thing, godparents/guardians are a thing. The facts it's not outlined (like 90% of the instigating plot) is amorphous doesn't mean that Noji is a random. We simply don't know where the dots are to connect anything. The conspiracy theories exist purely so people can home their personal fetishes get included, simply because it's not defined. My brain hurts less if I just treat the speculation as a fun way to pass time rather than trying to define the impossible or locate the precise location of Bertrand's teapot.

Well, crowdfunding platforms don't approve of certain topics in AVNs, so it's understandable why creators would avoid those topics in their games. What is there to argue about?

And it’s not hard to come up with theories about why certain characters are tenants. Just out of curiosity. Why, for example, can’t a lady be the guardian of orphans only until they come of age, and after that she simply becomes their landlady, since her guardianship has ended, and they still live in her house and rent a rooms there.

 

[Krytax123]

And it’s not hard to come up with theories about why certain characters are tenants. Just out of curiosity. Why, for example, can’t a lady be the guardian of orphans only until they come of age, and after that she simply becomes their landlady, since her guardianship has ended, and they still live in her house and rent a rooms there.

A lot of things are possible in theory but in our case neither Nika nor Nami are paying any rent or earning any money (instead Noji pays for all of their expenses like clothing and their college tutitions for example).

I mean who in a world would describe a relationship like that as Landlady/tenant???

It’s like the complete opposite in fact. They are a family (even in case none of them were blood related) in which case they would be family by adoption which would still make Nika and Nami siblings (even when not blood related) and not roommates.

Ocean is just dancing around the terms to avoid patreon problems with his incestverse