sineraser

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easy easy, seems like it can be missed, usually I don't like to read all disclaimers, warnings, developers notes etc. (maybe I should) , when I see game which is interesting visually (because it is actually main factor which brings my attention to game) I download and play without to much dwelling, like I wrote earlier regardless sexual (or not) content I would play that game anyway, in reality I prefer much more slow burn games without banging right away cause that bring more excitement and builds up anticipation, but anyway lesson learnt, your points are noted, I will be more careful for future, don't need to start fights or roast me further, easy, end of story, life is hard enough already, enjoy the game (y)
 

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Ocean obviously likes busty, curvy women more. Ever think about it like that ??:WeSmart:Nothing about her new look makes her less "young and fresh" or anything bad. If anything, it makes her even sweeter. A throuple ending with her and Vic or a 4some ending with her, Vic and Maya is #lifegoals, and grown-ass young women with pigtails ain't exactly something I'd consider 'beautiful'... it's an immature, bratty girl look at best, which is why I'm one of the peeps who like what her new character looks like, body and personality.

If only Ocean made the MC stop acting like such an over-the-top entitled, introverted, butthurt problem child pissing ppl off left and right bcz of his own issues and insecurities. It's why the emo fucker needs to get laid asap, cuz a good pussy is the answer to most dudes' problems. This is a scientific fact.:sneaky:



I mean, we already know the MC is a sort of caricature of a butthurt emo idiot with serious mental issues who's soo 'cool' he can't even get an erection when a drop-dead gorgeous blonde like Bella teases and dry humps him lol. This should pretty much solidify the fact that the game's main focus aren't its sex scenes, but as much as I respect Ocean's amazing work and art and don't like admitting this, the story isn't that much of a plus either, especially since the MC's braindead retard attitude doesn't make sense and nothing significant in regards to what happened to Summer was even mentioned in this new version.

I get that some games may not have a lot of good sex scenes, cuz the story makes up for it, but in our case, I find it ridiculous that both the story and the sex scenes aren't anything worth praising, and the slow release schedule only adds to minuses, so yeah, Ocean needs to deliver more substantial updates and focus more on the story, give us more details about the characters, more build up, character development and shit. The MC needs to put in the hard work to get pussy like men do it IRL, cuz having all these attractive women throw themselves at him isn't something I'd consider even remotely believable or decently written.



I wholeheartedly agree.(y) There's constructive criticism and then there's plain nonsense. If somebody doesn't like a game, they're welcome to share their opinions on why they didn't like said game, where the devs made a mistake and what they think could've been done better, but repeating the same things over and over again instead of moving on to other titles is simply ridiculous.

If I see a game I consider promising and find certain things that don't make sense storywise or that I don't like, especially when other users agree with me on that, I comment hoping the dev will at least consider changing something, but if they don't, I'll just consider most of their fans and patrons are ok with everything, respect the dev's decision and simply move on to other games instead of repeating the same things most ppl probably don't care about and don't consider that bad for at least 100+ times. It's the mature, polite and reasonable thing to do, IMHO.
What avn has worth praising writing/story???
 

xXwankerXx

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What avn has worth praising writing/story???
There's quite a lot of them, but we aren't allowed to discuss other games in this thread. Here and here is where you can get at least a few suggestions on this topic.

Back to our on-topic conversation, I'm not saying Ocean won't get his shit together and deliver us a masterpiece of a story, cuz, considering what a perfectionist and hard worker he is, that's exactly what I'm expecting him to do, I'm just saying that so far, the story's pretty disappointing and most of the MC's petty, petulant anger outbursts make him sound like a butthurt dork pissed for being a loser and blaming other ppl for his mistakes and stupidity. It's ridiculous.

Hearing him spout his hentai villain bullshit, you'd think the guy came home from WWII with some serious PTSD from all the disturbing shit he saw there, when in reality he's just an introverted idiot living in his own world who played too many PC games for his own good lol. The guy not being able to get a damn erection with all those attractive girls throwing themselves at him is hilarious, cuz I was 98% sure he couldn't get one before it was stated in the story, a thing that was pretty obvious, so except the top-notch visuals and female characters, there's not much worth praising so far, and I DO hope this will change in the next updates.
 

Don Sucio

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Good for us, Ocean has said several times that he doesn't care what certain people think about what NTR is. A LI will not cheat on MC and no man will steal a LI from MC. This is what he meant by saying that NTR will not be in the game.
But. If you permanently reject a certain LI, she will lose that status and will be able to date whoever she wants. At least that's what I understand from what was said a year or more ago, so perhaps I'm confusing or missing something.
I´m not going to lie, i would like to have some "fight" in the game as Nika because a man is trying to get near to the girls or something, maybe not with loyal girls but maybe with some girls with slut personality,it would be spicy :p

Imagine some npc trying to be in Nami´s panties, we could try to evite this being in a relationship with her or just trash talking about the dude and try to change Nami perspective about him. There was a scene where Nami is talking with a guy in the school exit and Nika seems jelous :unsure:

I don´t know i just love drama.
 

mostwanted8

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There's quite a lot of them, but we aren't allowed to discuss other games in this thread. Here and here is where you can get at least a few suggestions on this topic.

Back to our on-topic conversation, I'm not saying Ocean won't get his shit together and deliver us a masterpiece of a story, cuz, considering what a perfectionist and hard worker he is, that's exactly what I'm expecting him to do, I'm just saying that so far, the story's pretty disappointing and most of the MC's petty, petulant anger outbursts make him sound like a butthurt dork pissed for being a loser and blaming other ppl for his mistakes and stupidity. It's ridiculous.

Hearing him spout his hentai villain bullshit, you'd think the guy came home from WWII with some serious PTSD from all the disturbing shit he saw there, when in reality he's just an introverted idiot living in his own world who played too many PC games for his own good lol. The guy not being able to get a damn erection with all those attractive girls throwing themselves at him is hilarious, cuz I was 98% sure he couldn't get one before it was stated in the story, a thing that was pretty obvious, so except the top-notch visuals and female characters, there's not much worth praising so far, and I DO hope this will change in the next updates.
Nika is a something of an edgelord especially when he’s plotting some “evil” scheme but it’s not as bad as you make it to be. He got much better from the start and it all came down to positive character development which is the point of SG. Keep in mind the love of his life died when he was young which made him very impressionable at the time. His depressive dialogue and how it drowns his thoughts (more like drowned, he is healthier now in chapter 5) serve to show how deep his depression is.
I´m not going to lie, i would like to have some "fight" in the game as Nika because a man is trying to get near to the girls or something, maybe not with loyal girls but maybe with some girls with slut personality,it would be spicy :p

Imagine some npc trying to be in Nami´s panties, we could try to evite this being in a relationship with her or just trash talking about the dude and try to change Nami perspective about him. There was a scene where Nami is talking with a guy in the school exit and Nika seems jelous :unsure:

I don´t know i just love drama.
I’m on board with you, I enjoy confrontation for the sake of a LI. It makes things more exciting and winning the girl over more satisfying. It also reminds me male characters exist.
 

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Nika is a something of an edgelord especially when he’s plotting some “evil” scheme but it’s not as bad as you make it to be.

He got much better from the start and it all came down to positive character development which is the point of SG.

Keep in mind the love of his life died when he was young which made him very impressionable at the time. His depressive dialogue and how it drowns his thoughts (more like drowned, he is healthier now in chapter 5) serve to show how deep his depression is.

I enjoy confrontation for the sake of a LI.
I wish it was more "evil"

Being able to tell Vic's sister to shut the fuck up was awesome (got changed in rework if i remember right)

That's the point of SG? lots of games with that point, if true.

Summer died? like, this is known info? I could have sworn no one knew what happened with her. Well, if she's dead then, Summer is definitely Gone, Gone Gone....

(Nsync - bye bye bye)

And I enjoyed that. That type of dialogue, fuck you type choices, thoughts being drowned etc. Depression isn't so easy to get over. Not like how it plays out in this game. I guess it's different for everyone and how bad your depression is, bleh blah.

Bleh, the same o "knight to the rescue, hit that pussy afterwards" I wonder if there would ever be a knight that doesn't lay the rescue. They just disappear into the night forever being the hero of mystery... or some shit.

Many things you enjoy have been done countless of times. That's why I enjoyed the old version, it was different (to me) I know, I repeat myself, it's only to show how much I enjoyed it.

I would enjoy fighting most the dudes in the game just cause. You shouldn't need to do it for a LI to enjoy some confrontation. What if they hit you, talk shit in your face etc, you won't enjoy fighting them because it isn't for a LI?
 

mostwanted8

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I wish it was more "evil"

Being able to tell Vic's sister to shut the fuck up was awesome (got changed in rework if i remember right)

That's the point of SG? lots of games with that point, if true.

Summer died? like, this is known info? I could have sworn no one knew what happened with her. Well, if she's dead then, Summer is definitely Gone, Gone Gone....

(Nsync - bye bye bye)

And I enjoyed that. That type of dialogue, fuck you type choices, thoughts being drowned etc. Depression isn't so easy to get over. Not like how it plays out in this game. I guess it's different for everyone and how bad your depression is, bleh blah.

Bleh, the same o "knight to the rescue, hit that pussy afterwards" I wonder if there would ever be a knight that doesn't lay the rescue. They just disappear into the night forever being the hero of mystery... or some shit.

Many things you enjoy have been done countless of times. That's why I enjoyed the old version, it was different (to me) I know, I repeat myself, it's only to show how much I enjoyed it.

I would enjoy fighting most the dudes in the game just cause. You shouldn't need to do it for a LI to enjoy some confrontation. What if they hit you, talk shit in your face etc, you won't enjoy fighting them because it isn't for a LI?
:FacePalm::FacePalm::FacePalm:

…Yes, Nika’s positive development is the main point of SG. Not as much can be said for all the AVNs I’ve played or not to the same degree of importance.

No, we don’t know a 100% if Summer is dead but everybody who knew her including Nika reacts like she’s effectively dead.

No, his depression isn’t over yet, it’s just lesser than before.

It doesn’t matter if this kind of story has been done already, it doesn’t detract from the fact that people enjoy it and the protagonist. You just happen to not like them as much for the reasons you say.

Of course I would want to fight back if someone threatened Nika even if it wasn’t for a LI or attack some annoying dude. What kind of question is that? :rolleyes:

You’re just being nitpicky at this point. What are you even trying to say?
 
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No, we don’t know a 100% if Summer is dead but everybody who knew her including Nika reacts like she’s effectively dead.
After the dream sequence, when he wakes up, doesn't he monologue about how he'd give anything to get some closure on what happened to her?

That and a couple of other dialogues (the ones with Nia, I think) suggest that they probably don't know what happened to her. Or she went missing. Same difference.

I'd give screenshots but I don't have it downloaded right now
 

zack1419

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People who’ve lost something precious and lost hope can easily relate with Nika. That’s why the story is so compelling. We all want to see him bloom and enjoy life again after losing his love.
Summer is integral to the story precisely for that. Nika is at a better place now than he was at the start but his past life is still holding him down. He’s slowly overcoming that and accepting that it’s worth to give people a chance and he deserves a chance at life too.
I like the soundtrack because it portrays his internal struggle well. It’s upbeat and tries to stay positive while being melancholic at the same time.
i can relate to ppl who have experience lost, but when it comes to SG i still havent seen anything worth while. to me this is still a game lesser AVN without the sex. Nika is not likable at all, season one is about to end and if it ends with no indication of what happened to summer im probably going to drop this all together(no real loss i know) because this game should be renamed "the search for a boner".
 

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i can relate to ppl who have experience lost, but when it comes to SG i still havent seen anything worth while. to me this is still a game lesser AVN without the sex. Nika is not likable at all, season one is about to end and if it ends with no indication of what happened to summer im probably going to drop this all together(no real loss i know) because this game should be renamed "the search for a boner".
We'll all sleep better now knowing your thoughts.
 

mostwanted8

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i can relate to ppl who have experience lost, but when it comes to SG i still havent seen anything worth while. to me this is still a game lesser AVN without the sex. Nika is not likable at all, season one is about to end and if it ends with no indication of what happened to summer im probably going to drop this all together(no real loss i know) because this game should be renamed "the search for a boner".
A story doesn't need a likable protagonist, only an interesting or relatable one.
Also, I got a better title for you.
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zack1419

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A story doesn't need a likable protagonist, only an interesting or relatable one.
Also, I got a better title for you.
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Nika is neither likable or relatable. he is all cool collected sigma male and a bitch made depressed having panic attacks loser at the same time. if that's relatable to you or good to you then good for you, but lets be for real about him. he story isnt even that interesting.
 
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There is very little in the way of major plot holes - the biggest of which, IMHO, is the MC/Nami relationship. That relationship needs to either go all in (i.e. be clearly stated as originally intended, meaning goodbye Steam and goodbye Patreon) or unambiguously redefined away from the original intent. Otherwise, certain aspects of the plot and dialogue don't make sense in the official version of the game. For anyone saying that the MC and Nami HAVE to be blood-related for dialogues relating to a taboo relationship to work, I say, Nah! They have been under Nojiko's care since they were small children. Get the surnames right (i.e. the MC and Nami sharing Nojiko's surname) and make some minor changes to dialogue, and society would still view them as "brother" and "sister" because that's how they've been brought up (a one parent, two children family). This way, a relationship could still be viewed as taboo but not be illegal.
Like I said before, it's better to just remove all references to Nami and Nika being siblings or roommates, but still treat their relationship as taboo and let the players think for themself.
here is another one


Where it All Began is better than Summers Gone
Nice try.
lmao i just realized something. i dislike NIka for the same reasons i dislike shinji from Evangelion. both of them are depressed and annoying.
I see that you've never experienced a real depression.
 
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