VN Ren'Py Summer's Gone [S1 Steam + DLC] [Oceanlab]

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Glyph160 said:
1. Which version to play? Steam, Steam (F95 version) with uncut mod or Chapter 5 Beta? Which one is considered canon at this point?
2. Do the music restoration mod and uncut mod work together?
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Steam/Steam f95/patreon/epic/gog are all the same for Season 1. Season 1 is OCean's canon version of Season 1.

- Any mod might make your saves incompatible with season 2 if any variable is treated incorrectly by the mod.
- Ch 5 Beta is missing things that are included in season 1, that's why it's the beta. There are around 2300 extra renders in the full season compared to the beta.
- Whatever Ocean decided to cut, however much anyone prefers it, is no longer canon.

So the way to play the canon is to play the unmodded season 1 from any source you prefer. Then you can make a copy, mod it and play with the mod to see the bits that were cut. Or download 4.5 for all the uncut bits prior to Ch 5 (Ch5 didn't have much chnged from beta to season 1) Most of the things that were cut were in Ch3 I believe. The cinematics that were cut is mostly because Ocean couldn't renew the music licenses and decided it was too much work to find new music that fitted as is, and didn't want to re-stage/re-render the cinematics.

Dr.TSoni said:
I have a question for English speakers, a little personal curiosity: How strange is the term "bibi" to you?
Let me explain in my language baby "bimbo/bebe" or child "bambino" have a certain assonance with bibi, which does not happen in English.
So I was wondering how weird/hard to understand as a word is?


It's so diabolical that it's possible for Nika, but are we sure Nami has such patience?
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I have a german friend whose nickname is Bibi. All slang is cringe to non native slangers and all lingo dates. What about sk8r boi? Pop culture dates badly, so I don't think a personal lingo is that big a deal. People develop their own slang and culture in these ways.

As far as resonance, I just see it as baby. Here we use baby as a derrogatory term, or a romantic term. The two both use the same word. Babe refers to the same, but is mainly used romantically. I don't see bibi as any different. Willi uses it to put Katie down, Summer uses it to put Nika down, same thing, a cute insult.

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Ok, I preferred Bella as a route because it works with Nika. But as a personal preference Cheeto
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That would be the Nami of Judgment. And she's right!
 
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Dr.TSoni said:
I have a question for English speakers, a little personal curiosity: How strange is the term "bibi" to you?
Let me explain in my language baby "bimbo/bebe" or child "bambino" have a certain assonance with bibi, which does not happen in English.
So I was wondering how weird/hard to understand as a word is?


It's so diabolical that it's possible for Nika, but are we sure Nami has such patience?
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I find it personally, a little childish sounding. but at the same time, I believe this is intentional. They have just begun adulthood pretty much. Nika even comments on this at the end of chapter 5 how they are barely adults or something to that effect.(I recently had to get a new motherboard and lost all my save,I can't check yet ;/). SO I see as a way of reminding people of their immaturity. So I'm fine with it.
 
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Dr.TSoni said:
I have a question for English speakers, a little personal curiosity: How strange is the term "bibi" to you?
Let me explain in my language baby "bimbo/bebe" or child "bambino" have a certain assonance with bibi, which does not happen in English.
So I was wondering how weird/hard to understand as a word is?


It's so diabolical that it's possible for Nika, but are we sure Nami has such patience?
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I'm not a native English speaker, but that term bibi is pretty weird, but considering that it was an affectionate nickname that nami gave nika, I guess it doesn't matter much.:HideThePain:
 
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HarryDubois420 said:
Not native, but I've seen some of my friends text their girlfriends/boyfriends with "beebee" or "bibbi". So not that weird for me.
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As a native English speaker.Personally, it doesn't sound all that odd to me. It just sounds like someone saying baby slightly differently. But this could also be due to me growing up watching tons of varying foreign content growing up.
 
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Ray_D said:
I'm not a native English speaker, but that term bibi is pretty weird, but considering that it was an affectionate nickname that nami gave nika, I guess it doesn't matter much.:HideThePain:
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Don't forget, it's Leia and Willi's derrogatory nickname for Katie, and what Leia calles her new girls that she pimps out in WiaB. So Summer is either a Zane in name only or the daughter of one of Leia's prostitutes. In Wiab, Leia's working girls thought it was strange and no one knew what it meant when Emilio told them Leia had named the newbies bibi's. So it's not common in Wollust, it's a personal thing, mainly from Leia as the origin, as she used it more than William.
 
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BobTheDuck said:
Don't forget, it's Leia and Willi's derrogatory nickname for Katie, and what Leia calles her new girls that she pimps out in WiaB. So Summer is either a Zane in name only or the daughter of one of Leia's prostitutes. In Wiab, Leia's working girls thought it was strange and no one knew what it meant when Emilio told them Leia had named the newbies bibi's. So it's not common in Wollust, it's a personal thing, mainly from Leia as the origin, as she used it more than William.
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I would find funny if a former whore looked down on a tenant of a doctor, so far as calling him trash, while using the term that her pimp called her with her daughter. It is so fucked up that I can't not laugh.

That said, is not impossible. Just as Summer being a Zane is not, but both seems very unlikely in my mind. I think Nika would remember if that was the case.

But I agree that the term is an indication that someone has an involvement with the Zanes. We do not know who is mimicking who here, Summer or Nika. The Zanes could be friends of Summer family or of Nika's family, if Nika is not a Zane himself.

Either way the trio using the word implies that one of them had some sort of contact with the characters of WiaB
 
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LHDLLB said:
I would find funny if a former whore looked down on a tenant of a doctor, so far as calling him trash, while using the term that her pimp called her with her daughter. It is so fucked up that I can't not laugh.

That said, is not impossible. Just as Summer being a Zane is not, but both seems very unlikely in my mind. I think Nika would remember if that was the case.

But I agree that the term is an indication that someone has an involvement with the Zanes. We do not know who is mimicking who here, Summer or Nika. The Zanes could be friends of Summer family or of Nika's family, if Nika is not a Zane himself.

Either way the trio using the word implies that one of them had some sort of contact with the characters of WiaB
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A couple of things:
- we know it's not in common usage, and that only the Zane's seemed to use it, because Leia's employees thought it was weird.
- If it's not common, how did Summer pick it up? From Nika, or was it the other way? Was Nika's mom one of Leia's workers? Very plausible, but goes against some favoured theories about things. Would explain why Summer's parents thought Nika was trash.
- I have friends from certain ethnic backgrounds that trash talk their own family with racist slurs. It's okay from the inside it seems.
- Leia's workers were to seduce/comfort the high rollers. Easy chance for a gold digger to make good, and be prickly about their past.

And yeah, not committing to anything other than it's a pretty small subset of people in WiaB using this word, so it's presence in SG relates to how it exists in WiaB.
 
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