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AlexFXR

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Sure, some might lose interest, some will likely die (not definitely from old age or blue balls, it's just normal statistics). So what?
At the same time new people will discover it and some kids who are minors will grow up and find this game and become fans. The way it's been since he started his projects. Isn't this just normal life?
I'd say, right now the future looks pretty good for Ocean and his games.
For everything to be as you say, Ocean first needs to clear his reputation. If a newbie likes a game, he tries to find as much information about it as possible. And the first thing a newbie learns is that Ocean is a milker and deceives his Patreons. Until Ocean changes this, you shouldn't count on a large influx of newbies. To my great regret, Ocean doesn't understand this and continues to slowly ruin his projects.
 
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For everything to be as you say, Ocean first needs to clear his reputation. If a newbie likes a game, he tries to find as much information about it as possible. And the first thing a newbie learns is that Ocean is a milker and deceives his Patreons. Until Ocean changes this, you shouldn't count on a large influx of newbies. To my great regret, Ocean doesn't understand this and continues to slowly ruin his projects.
What kind of milker spends so much time and effort into the stunning AAA Quality visuals, writing and setting up the scene .
What do you think that ocean does not want to release the game , why does season 2 has so many renders he could have probably released them in short and frequent chunks to feed the likes of you but he didn't cause he values his craft and want it to be one coherent perfection.
get some sun brother.
 

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For everything to be as you say, Ocean first needs to clear his reputation. If a newbie likes a game, he tries to find as much information about it as possible. And the first thing a newbie learns is that Ocean is a milker and deceives his Patreons. Until Ocean changes this, you shouldn't count on a large influx of newbies. To my great regret, Ocean doesn't understand this and continues to slowly ruin his projects.
now i am the first to say i think ocean takes much longer releasing because of the support he has.. but iwe are all grown adults and choose to do with are money as we please.. i have paid for every update on patreon, i have bought SG on steam . and i did it willingly and wantingly.. if people decide to keep financing ocean to the degree they so he can take as long as he wants then that is there right .. it is not ocean's fault that he has developed a VN that could be considered the best of all time .. do i get pissed waiting .. yes.. do i cry about it.. your damn right but when it comes out i am like a fat kid eating a jelly donut boyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy..
 

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What kind of milker spends so much time and effort into the stunning AAA Quality visuals, writing and setting up the scene .
Here you are right, he spends time, but there is no result. By the way, regarding the amazing effects, you know that he stopped making high-quality lighting? It's good that the characters are still great.
What do you think that ocean does not want to release the game , why does season 2 has so many renders he could have probably released them in short and frequent chunks to feed the likes of you but he didn't cause he values his craft and want it to be one coherent perfection.
He does not release the game because it is profitable for him to milk his Patreons. He will throw in a couple of renders and write another letter with a complaint about how everyone is interfering with his work, and continue to relax, receiving money for free. He does this all the time, everyone still remembers his words about the update that was supposed to come out before the end of the year. And he will not release frequent updates, it is easier to follow them and you can immediately see when the developer starts to slack off.
 
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Here you are right, he spends time, but there is no result. By the way, regarding the amazing effects, you know that he stopped making high-quality lighting? It's good that the characters are still great.
Even Disney struggles to achieve "high-quality lighting" for its films. Such effects would cost millions that Ocean cannot afford. Be fair.
 
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Somehow when I try to run the steam version, I caught this error when starting the game, need help guys

When I checked the common files, the file 00start.rpy is exist, not sure why it won't run
 

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The Artificial Imbecile won't be able to create anything likeable for me any time soon. So far everything it does looks like a Potemkin village for the superficial viewers with a short attention span.
As much as I don't like to agree with Krogan Dude on anything :Kappa:, I think in 10-15 years, AI image generation will improve significantly, eliminating the uncanny valley effect and making it almost impossible to tell a handmade image from an AI one.

And I also think by that time you will download not games but game generators. You will describe to it what you would like to play today, and it will generate a game and graphics for you on the fly :)

Devs will develop prompts for the AI generator (spending years on that :KEK:) and sell access to them.

However, there will always be developers of unique AVNs such as Ocean, where everything is made by hand, as well as fans of such products.

Okay, maybe I'm getting too far ahead of the technology in my fantasies, but I think there will be at least the next generation of AI tools for developing 3D images and animation. And the work that game devs do manually now and spend most of the time on it - creating characters, environments, posing scenes, e.t.c - will be done with the help of AI.

Just look at the modern music generation tools - you can already make quite decent soundtracks for your game by spending a couple of hours playing with prompts and listening to different options and choosing the best one. AI will compose the lyrics and music for you and arrange it all in accordance with the desired style, and sing it in the desired voice. It is clear that professionals will wrinkle their noses at this "music", but as for me, who listens everything mainly on my phone player through rather average earbuds, what do their opinions matter? The same will happen with AVNs.
 
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AlexFXR

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Even Disney struggles to achieve "high-quality lighting" for its films. Such effects would cost millions that Ocean cannot afford. Be fair.
As for Disney, this is an absolute lie, any beginner who has completed training can easily set up the lights there, there is nothing complicated there. Moreover, Ocean used to work with lights and had no problems with it. In Germany, there are now big problems with electricity and many people sit without it, saving money. Perhaps he got used to it and thinks that this is normal and therefore decided to transfer this problem to the game, thinking that this is the case all over the world. I have no other logical explanation for this.
 

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What kind of milker spends so much time and effort into the stunning AAA Quality visuals, writing and setting up the scene .
What do you think that ocean does not want to release the game , why does season 2 has so many renders he could have probably released them in short and frequent chunks to feed the likes of you but he didn't cause he values his craft and want it to be one coherent perfection.
get some sun brother.
Writing? What writing? LMAO. The game’s still stuck in the first week of college after six years of development — and somehow only Bella got any actual character development.
Meanwhile, Ocean’s a 'perfectionist' who’s perfected ruining half the models. Man’s a brain-rotted gooner who literally can't stop until he turns every character into the same plastic Instagram clone.
Nojiko? Went from actually looking like the MC’s mom to looking younger than Nami.
Mila? Used to be a good-looking woman — now she looks like a discount silicone escort.
Sofia? Lost all her unique features — just another bland pretty doll now.
Nami? Same fate. Lost her original charm and of course, Ocean couldn't help but bless her with a fresh BBL buff every update like a true addict.
And poor disabled Veronica? With every update, Ocean slaps even bigger tits on her, like her spine wasn’t already hanging on for dear life. She’ll be lucky if she ever walks again at this point.

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He’s an incompetent German gooner who never keeps his word and never meets deadlines. After six years of development, he’s still delusional about making two games at the same time, both somehow planned to have 30+ episodes — even though he hasn’t even thought of the plot for like 80% of them (Even Hardian, 'cheers' on ocean nuts dude, deep down knows that he is just making shit up as he goes with every new episode). But honestly, what do you expect from a guy who needed two whole years just to finish building his PC, and has been 'working on music licenses' for like four years now imao

Also, it’s hilarious watching the copium from morons who’ve already donated $500+ to this garbage. At this point, they’ve got no choice but to stick around and ride the slow train to hell with their master. Half the suckers, like Fortuna, at least had the decency to leave in shame. Meanwhile, the other half — like good old Hardian — went from ‘He’s just doing a rework, once that’s done we’ll get two episodes a year’ to now... well, let me just quote this:
"Anyway - Adults choose how to spend their money.

I'm happy to be a $ supporter of Ocean and I feel like I have gotten more value from SG than from most of the AAA games I buy.

There will always be people who want to tell other adults how to spend their money.

I only Have to listen to the ones working for my government... ;)

I'm looking forward to decades of AVN story time with SG and WIAB.

This includes an enjoyable story, some beautiful renders, animations and great music.

If I get to enjoy other Ocean creations after these - I will.

When I die, what follows after that won't matter to me...

Cheers!! "
 
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Writing? What writing? LMAO. The game’s still stuck in the first week of college after six years of development — and somehow only Bella got any actual character development.
Meanwhile, Ocean’s a 'perfectionist' who’s perfected ruining half the models. Man’s a brain-rotted gooner who literally can't stop until he turns every character into the same plastic Instagram clone.
Nojiko? Went from actually looking like the MC’s mom to looking younger than Nami.
Mila? Used to be a good-looking woman — now she looks like a discount silicone escort.
Sofia? Lost all her unique features — just another bland pretty doll now.
Nami? Same fate. Lost her original charm and of course, Ocean couldn't help but bless her with a fresh BBL buff every update like a true addict.
And poor disabled Veronica? With every update, Ocean slaps even bigger tits on her, like her spine wasn’t already hanging on for dear life. She’ll be lucky if she ever walks again at this point.

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He’s an incompetent German gooner who never keeps his word and never meets deadlines. After six years of development, he’s still delusional about making two games at the same time, both somehow planned to have 30+ episodes — even though he hasn’t even thought of the plot for like 80% of them (Even Hardian, 'cheers' on ocean nuts dude, deep down knows that he is just making shit up as he goes with every new episode). But honestly, what do you expect from a guy who needed two whole years just to finish building his PC, and has been 'working on music licenses' for like four years now imao
I don't think it's a perfectionist thing, he and fans may like to say that. He is in over his head, even a basic AVN enjoyer like me knows with two big story like SG and WiAB, ocean cannot satisfy us with timely release, great renders and having a peaceful daily life. He would be sacrificing something. In this case it happened to be release time. Only way we get to fully enjoy SG and WiAB without losing intrest or the games getting abandoned are either ocean start doing smaller releases or appointing a supporter dev to increase production. He knows this, he just doesn't care. To take one whole year for just 1 chapter to get relased is diabolical, if it was a whole season I get it.
 
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either ocean start doing smaller releases or appointing a supporter dev to increase production. He knows this, he just doesn't care.
I would add that he's also probably hesistant after the crap that went down with the original Summers Gone dev. The one who was making it based off of Ocean's notes. Bad experience leading him to not want to work with someone again.
 
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Ah yes - another post by a 'one hit wonder' ...

Didn't you just delete a post - the first in almost a year of having 'that' user id?

Maybe it was a mod who did the delete...

Anyway - Adults choose how to spend their money.

I'm happy to be a $ supporter of Ocean and I feel like I have gotten more value from SG than from most of the AAA games I buy.

There will always be people who want to tell other adults how to spend their money.

I only Have to listen to the ones working for my government... ;)

I'm looking forward to decades of AVN story time with SG and WIAB.

This includes an enjoyable story, some beautiful renders, animations and great music.

If I get to enjoy other Ocean creations after these - I will.

When I die, what follows after that won't matter to me...

Cheers!! :coffee:
I understand what you are trying to say, enjoying life without an attachment. But don't you wish that you could have a completed version of SG in your hand right now, I certainly do. Apart from that, it is ocean's duty as a developer to fulfil his supporters wish. I have never another community like this, the fans never ask for anything else. No special fetishes, charector change, etc they may say here and there but they whole heartedly enjoy what ocean make. The only thing they demand of ocean as a whole is to release sooner, and I think it's his duty to fulfil that. Ofcourse he is a talented creator with a beautiful story, wonderful characters, etc. He should get his recognition, but it was is who recognized his talent and supported him. Don't make him forget that (like the youtube creators).
 
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I would add that he's also probably hesistant after the crap that went down with the original Summers Gone dev. The one who was making it based off of Ocean's notes. Bad experience leading him to not want to work with someone again.
My friend, you must have loved someone in your life or had a friend, but for some reason it didn't work out. Are you going to spend your life a loner. I wouldn't, understand those are circumstances a move on. Ocean is doing this either he may have trust issue like you mentioned or thinks only he can do it as a narcissist.
 
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