Elduriel

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Well if you do EVERYTHING and not just one path, I think 20 hours is not THAT far off.
I think the most additional content where this factors in is when you can decide whom you go with to the gym, the rest of the choices don't offer that much additional content.
 

PaxHadrian17

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I think the most additional content where this factors in is when you can decide whom you go with to the gym, the rest of the choices don't offer that much additional content.
I'm going to disagree with you on this.

I tried not kissing Bella (off the Bella path) and got an Entirely different experience.

Bella was jealous of Robin, the lady's locker room conversation took on a decidedly different twist - with Ayua showing more interest, and that does not even come close to what happens to the MC when Bella does not come to get him out of the handcuffs.

During CH 4.5, each 'taking a girl for a walk' creates a different experience, and if you did not try taking Nami for a walk, you missed what I think is hinting at another key reveal.

I did not try the 3 different gym dates so I can't say what the ripple effect is for those, but there is definitely significant, different, content if you don't go with the Bella kiss.

I absolutely Loved it when the MC refused to kiss Kate...

For those who tried this route - you know what I mean :)
 
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nitkonikic

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I have a suspicion is it my imagination or if the mc has enough dark points he will try to kill himself
In previous version of the game I could maaaaaybe see MC hurt someone else or end up staying negative and depressed for the rest of his life, but in new one? Nah man.

Even if you take every single negative choice now (and number of those has been reduced significantly, rework basically removed all of them from early chapters), the MC will still start turning into "good guy", tell his feelings to all girls etc. This game is going to happy ending.
 

Old Man Al

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Yes, the dark and light point system got scrapped. I cried when I realized I couldn't make MC the next Hannibal Lecter :cry:
While I am not that much about munching on my fellow citiziens (unless there is no proper food around and still affordable), at least his hairstyle would have been improved that way.

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2 weeks and no replay or update and we are expected to still come through with our patreon support, kinda funny how that works.:unsure:
 

Ragnar

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The dark and light point got and get removed in the rework and from chapter 3 on. Also I don't think killing himself was in the book even with the old version. Killing others maybe, in the old version that is.
I wouldn't rule out seppuku. He's surrounded by qts in heat but his pee pee doesn't work :WutFace:
 

`Ray`

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2 weeks and no replay or update and we are expected to still come through with our patreon support, kinda funny how that works.:unsure:
Trust is how that works.

The Dev-Logs have been delayed by 2 or 3 Days a few times, due to him mixing up the dates or changing his workplace. But Ocean has never failed at providing one. The world won't end if they are delayed.

This Dev-log is probably delayed since he is not feeling well due to the flu, which he mentioned in the last Dev-log. He needs proper rest but he's probably still working on both games.

You don't judge someone based on just one event.
 

Massagecook01

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Trust is how that works.

The Dev-Logs have been delayed by 2 or 3 Days a few times, due to him mixing up the dates or changing his workplace. But Ocean has never failed at providing one. The world won't end if they are delayed.

This Dev-log is probably delayed since he is not feeling well due to the flu, which he mentioned in the last Dev-log. He needs proper rest but he's probably still working on both games.

You don't judge someone based on just one event.
it seems, not just him but a lot of game devs are doing just that, it's always something that gets in the way of updates, but we are excepted to not have our support for them stop because they say our support is what drives the game forward but we get nothing in return and yes i have seen game devs bring out update every 2 weeks to an month and the game are great so i wount take excuses its an tit for tat kinda thing give to get you know what i mean.
 

`Ray`

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it seems, not just him but a lot of game devs are doing just that, it's always something that gets in the way of updates
I feel like you are talking about the game updates and not the Dev-logs... :HideThePain:

Well, I don't know about the other devs, but Ocean certainly doesn't milk his patrons. He explains almost everything (His PC Setup, Daz, GPU and Music Licensing problems, etc) in his Dev-logs.
but we are excepted to not have our support for them stop because they say our support is what drives the game forward but we get nothing in return
I don't think anyone's forcing you to support them. It's not like a Devil's contract that has you bound for a lifetime :lepew:

In Ocean's case, While support is a major concern, He is driven by his passion.

He has paid a shit-ton of money just on music, electricity bills (His Computers work 24/7) and taxes, which simply exhausts all the support he receives, leaving him with no money to buy a new GPU.
and yes i have seen game devs bring out update every 2 weeks to an month and the game are great so i wount take excuses
I think I have an idea of who you are talking about (NLT Media?)

Either way, The renders and cinematics of this quality take time. Ocean has improved a lot in producing wrt last update.
 
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