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Dororohot

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Agreed guys, even before that it really confused me and made me wonder if this is even the same dev? Seriously inconsistent with their earlier behaviour and then trying to 'normalize' or explain the behaviour as realistic is just completely insane and shows a strange way of thinking. I mean compared to previous games where the older girls were still virgins yet just as attractive, what was the rational their then? Why are can you make them virgins and consistent with their behaviour yet not these girls? Even the vampire sisters (which I had discussed earlier with the dev when he was active) could have been virgins and had their first time with the MC as it was still consistent with their behaviour. I even explained to the dev that it all depends on how these beings percieve time and in most lore (but not all) vampire females take their partners seriously. There was even an example I gave where this light novel there was a vampire princess that was 2000 years old who fell in love with a guy who got sent to her world and she gave her first time to him. The age didn't matter for the above reasons and being immortal she had no problem waiting for someone she truly loved.

The whole thing just left a bad taste and even weirder direction in terms of the characters and their interactions/rational.
Yes dude this update was quite a disappointment and the plot with his human sister was also disappointing .First thing i am confused about the sudden transition from being weirded out of incest to all of a sudden having sex.not even a slight sexual buildup ,they even hadn't kissed each other before if i recall properly .At least camillia had seen mc dick so she is eligible for common porn troupe (fascinated by dick ).Since they slept outside i would assume they had no sexual feeling towards his brother .And all of a sudden now they are married and fucking .And the sex scene in itself was also quite bland for their first time. Just a simple g whiz and over. Second by how prudent they act i thought they were virgin (well at least valentina.)But no they already had multiple dicks and yet it was shown like they had no personal life except helping mc.I hate prudent characters unless they are virgin ofc.
 

Simulacrum29

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yeah there even was a scene where the human sisters where showering with MC so it showed that they are closer then is normal, but that also got canned just so that they can be sluts and fuck others beside MC, which is completely contradicting to their general behaviour and will never again play a role in that VN now that they are married to MC.

Somehow it was of the utmost importance for us to know that they took dick every free second they had, while MC was away. But beside that we absolutely need to know this information, its at the same time completely irrelevant to the story and is only there so that SW can jerk off to our complaints.

Because somehow running away and hiding is far easier then changing that 1 line and re-adding the shower scene.
 

linkinn

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Apr 25, 2020
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First thing i am confused about the sudden transition from being weirded out of incest to all of a sudden having sex.
This would only make sense if they already had a thing for him, but it's pretty clear that wasn't the case. It feels rushed and forced.

I love his writing but I feel like he dropped the ball here, not sure if he's doing it to throw a few punches at the people who didn't like the human sisters arc, or if there's some other reason behind it, if it's the first, he's missing the target and hitting himself, in my opinion.
 

Simulacrum29

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This would only make sense if they already had a thing for him, but it's pretty clear that wasn't the case. It feels rushed and forced.

I love his writing but I feel like he dropped the ball here, not sure if he's doing it to throw a few punches at the people who didn't like the human sisters arc, or if there's some other reason behind it, if it's the first, he's missing the target and hitting himself, in my opinion.
well he shit the bed with rewriting the sisters arc out of the blue because in the first iteration they were way closer
 

1tomadeira

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May 25, 2017
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Is the story of this game good or is meh? I don't mind vampires, but unfortunely many tend to use it's cliché way too much.

Also how is MC's personality? He is a nice guy or not, has a comedy side, or is cringe, etc?
 

Posseman

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Dec 18, 2022
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I don't know about this Dev's games, both Sun Breed and Follow the Leader ruin your old saves so you have to start over, even if you never used a mod on them. Plus each game continuously crashes during lewd scenes, just the lewd scenes not anything else but as soon as you enter in to a lewd scene the games crash. Super frustrating, that's what the dev should rename themselves, SuperFrustrating instead of SuperWriter.
 

Dororohot

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Aug 6, 2020
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yeah there even was a scene where the human sisters where showering with MC so it showed that they are closer then is normal, but that also got canned just so that they can be sluts and fuck others beside MC, which is completely contradicting to their general behaviour and will never again play a role in that VN now that they are married to MC.

Somehow it was of the utmost importance for us to know that they took dick every free second they had, while MC was away. But beside that we absolutely need to know this information, its at the same time completely irrelevant to the story and is only there so that SW can jerk off to our complaints.

Because somehow running away and hiding is far easier then changing that 1 line and re-adding the shower scene.
I think author should have made it clear through writing the characters were not virgin in the early phase of the game.Its like giving false hope because of the dynamic of the relationship between them .In other games we could easily know .I would have understood if they had distant relationship or if it was mentioned early in the story that they have had past relation with other man .Showing as they are so caring and close it would have made sense for mc (and in extension to you) that they were not virgins.
 

Simulacrum29

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Apr 20, 2018
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I think author should have made it clear through writing the characters were not virgin in the early phase of the game.Its like giving false hope because of the dynamic of the relationship between them .In other games we could easily know .I would have understood if they had distant relationship or if it was mentioned early in the story that they have had past relation with other man .Showing as they are so caring and close it would have made sense for mc (and in extension to you) that they were not virgins.
Or hear me out for a moment, maybe Dev could have left the relationship MC has had with them untouched, with the shower scene intact and just not talked about them banging anyone else. I mean he got that down to a t in like 99.9% of the script,

But, no he needs that one sentence where they talk about sleeping with other guys, because of reasons, just to never have that information impacting anything ever again right after that sentence ended.


Do you know about the narrative principle of Chekhov's gun? Well, if not that's not bad, because the Author of this story doesn't either.
It states, that every element in a story must be necessary, and irrelevant elements should be removed.
So as an example if you show a Gun either the gun gets used later on or you don't show the gun in the first place.

Our Gun right here is the Boyfriends of the Girls if the Dev doesn't want to add them later on for drama bullshit why introduce them now into the Story, if they never get mentioned zero, nada, zilch, nothing at all would be lost. From the narrative standpoint.

The only thing it would reinforce is that they were always close to MC and always wanted a relationship with him.
Now they are some Nymphos that aren't bothered about whom the dick belongs to if they can get any. Because right now they are awfully quick with accepting an incest relationship they never had any inclination to.
 

bdjskajKIDD

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Jul 6, 2023
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WALKTHROUGH PASSWORD - (it's the same as last month. There's only one choice at the end of this update and it doesn't matter what you choose.

[/QUOTE]
So what's the password?
 
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Yes dude this update was quite a disappointment and the plot with his human sister was also disappointing .First thing i am confused about the sudden transition from being weirded out of incest to all of a sudden having sex.not even a slight sexual buildup ,they even hadn't kissed each other before if i recall properly .At least camillia had seen mc dick so she is eligible for common porn troupe (fascinated by dick ).Since they slept outside i would assume they had no sexual feeling towards his brother .And all of a sudden now they are married and fucking .And the sex scene in itself was also quite bland for their first time. Just a simple g whiz and over. Second by how prudent they act i thought they were virgin (well at least valentina.)But no they already had multiple dicks and yet it was shown like they had no personal life except helping mc.I hate prudent characters unless they are virgin ofc.

Man this SUCKS.. Before the rework, this game had so much potential at the start.

But in typical super writer form, he decides to ram his head into the wall with this one.

Dev basically couldn't handle valid criticism about the human sisters and tucked his tail and ran off.

Like what you expect? To that point the sisters were written prudent like you said, and gave off they were virgins who were devoted to the mc and only the mc and help find a cure for the mc.

Dev then added some bs “realism” in where the girls just had to be getting dicked down by their bf's or however many they dated in college. Like it's vampire lore, so I find trying to sprinkle some “realism” in that fashion is weird, but I digress.

Also, it was a shower scene before which did show the human sisters were closer to the mc, until the dev decided to remove that for some reason.

Like his other games, at least had some virgins, this one has NONE...
Yea some harem here.... :cautious:

Wincest right? oh but the sisters are non virgins.. my biggest kink is virgin, so yes, this does suck for me.

Like, I just find it weird. Why no virgins here? Why couldn't the human sisters at least be virgins? It would 100% would have made them more desirable than they are, and made them even more devoted to the mc as it been showing us early on before the dev decided to change that.

He picked a weird hill to die on with his 1 line of tmi dialog as well with unimportant info for some reason too. :rolleyes:
like if he had left that out, it would have made it better than to just rub it in my face that they
been getting dicked down by others...

To me, nothing is as important as how the main LIs are presented.

Here? Just seems like a drop of the ball, with the sex scenes being voided of any emotions.

What a shame, guess it's time to move on and just stick with his other game, follow the leader..

At least those girls are virgin in that one!
 
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Jimmy_Jam

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May 1, 2022
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Does anybody have a fix for the constant crashing during the shower scene?
I havent found anything yet, been stuck all week. it has to be some code the dev uses because it also happens in follow the leader, it seems to crash when a scene ends with a large selection screen as I am stuck on both games at the end of a scene that has 5 options plus a finish option. The only thing I can think of is downloading a save file then skipping the freeze point but I havent tried it yet
 

Caeir

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Jul 26, 2020
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I had the same problem of it crashing at that scene. In my case stopping too long on the page caused the crash. My workaround was to save the game right before that scene, exit out, reload the game and load that save. For whatever reason, it progressed. In my case I found that the CPU usage steadily increased on that page causing the game to completely exit out to the desktop. After the reload it no longer happened.
 

WheresLucifer

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Sep 1, 2018
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Man this SUCKS.. Before the rework, this game had so much potential at the start.

But in typical super writer form, he decides to ram his head into the wall with this one.

Dev basically couldn't handle valid criticism about the human sisters and tucked his tail and ran off.

Like what you expect? To that point the sisters were written prudent like you said, and gave off they were virgins who were devoted to the mc and only the mc and help find a cure for the mc.

Dev then added some bs “realism” in where the girls just had to be getting dicked down by their bf's or however many they dated in college. Like it's vampire lore, so I find trying to sprinkle some “realism” in that fashion is weird, but I digress.

Also, it was a shower scene before which did show the human sisters were closer to the mc, until the dev decided to remove that for some reason.

Like his other games, at least had some virgins, this one has NONE...
Yea some harem here.... :cautious:

Wincest right? oh but the sisters are non virgins.. my biggest kink is virgin, so yes, this does suck for me.

Like, I just find it weird. Why no virgins here? Why couldn't the human sisters at least be virgins? It would 100% would have made them more desirable than they are, and made them even more devoted to the mc as it been showing us early on before the dev decided to change that.

He picked a weird hill to die on with his 1 line of tmi dialog as well with unimportant info for some reason too. :rolleyes:
like if he had left that out, it would have made it better than to just rub it in my face that they
been getting dicked down by others...

To me, nothing is as important as how the main LIs are presented.

Here? Just seems like a drop of the ball, with the sex scenes being voided of any emotions.

What a shame, guess it's time to move on and just stick with his other game, follow the leader..

At least those girls are virgin in that one!
I know that SuperWriter have done well with his other VNs. Regarding to this one was a different style of his writing style (which he realize that it was not his taste of writing) compare to the other VNs he had done. He nearly thought about abandoning this one, however there been number of fans who had enjoyed this VN before he place this VN on hold for quite some time to focus on the other one to at least complete one or two of his VNs so he could put some effort into this one to get this VN completed.

Since I haven't check out this VN since the break, which I know I am behind at this moment. I plan to start all over again since it been quite some time since I check this VN. I cannot make any comments regarding to any update since his break, which I cannot recall which version at this moment. I believe that I am planning to wait until this VN is completed before I will check it out.

Based on some of the F95 user comments, Some were positive and some were negative. Overall, I may have to point out that I rather see SuperWriter be able to complete this VN. Looking at other developers' works over the years, number of them had completed and number of them been abandoned due to number of reasons. Based on that, I do not recall if there is any VN project that SuperWriter have not completed or abandoned for certain reason.

Each of us have own opinion, I cannot say they are right or wrong opinion. Number of opinion do have some valid points and other don't. Which is why reading and posting opinion are unique since each of us have such of unique taste of each story/VNs.

Have a great day and be safe...(y)
 

Jimmy_Jam

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May 1, 2022
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I had the same problem of it crashing at that scene. In my case stopping too long on the page caused the crash. My workaround was to save the game right before that scene, exit out, reload the game and load that save. For whatever reason, it progressed. In my case I found that the CPU usage steadily increased on that page causing the game to completely exit out to the desktop. After the reload it no longer happened.
I'll Have to give it a try, I saved before the entire scene started but I will move it up a couple renders to right before the freeze to see if that works out. I am super pissed because I enjoy both games and cant play either
 
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