well she ain't mother of the year but still she isn't bad mother. still better mother than mc's daddy was as hubby.
You can't have a proper incest game with harem potential if you don't have a terrible mother in the mix.Thanks! Yea, I just wanted to confirm there were nonlewd reasons to keep her around. I could definitely see how fun the lewd benefits would be.
Oh yea, I know. I was being a little facetious. She's just, in my opinion, a terrible mother and person and MC should be absolutely furious at her rather than enticed by her.
But I think maybe that narcissistic parents are just a trigger for me. A trauma I didn't even know I had! Learn something new everyday.
no harem on this and can get good mother and harem (well mother is wife but still).You can't have a proper incest game with harem potential if you don't have a terrible mother in the mix.
I mean I enjoy ntr but it's normal for fans of this to get upset when seeing something like that scene (it's not ntr but still) I mean this game is mostly vanilla and suddenly seeing something like that for its fans must be a deal off
That wouldn't be a good solution.
The first round of NTR yelling in this game came out with the question of the open relationship, and changes were made so that you could end the relationship just to please the "no NTR" crowd. The breaking it off with Nicole option was literally added to keep them happy, and so I would assume that is the route most of those complaining would take. Since this round of NTR complaining is centered around Sis and Vic, it would make sense to have created a "clean" route where only the MC is having sex because those who scream the most about NTR literally only want the MC to be having sex.
The biggest problem was, that the scene with sis and Vic came without foreshadowing. It was out of nowhere and completly out of character. Then after the sex between them, Vic even admits, she wants a relationship with sis, all while COMPLETLY IGNORING the fact, that sis told her earlier, that she has fallen for her brother. And the reaction of sis where also COMPLETLY out of character, again. Nothing that new on that front, she acted irrational since Nicole asked her (not?) to tell MC about the D'Amico offer (not sure what it was anymore). I mean, in one scene she is all lovey-dovey and acts as mature as you would expect it and in the next scene she plots alone or with others how she can keep MC and the hotel and lies to everyone without any good reason. But still it was a complete bullshit situation, that shall lead to a throuple according to MrDots and his team. Worst way to go into that direction in a vanilla/romance game. Only natural that vanilla fans would call the dev out. The new option doesn't make the whole setup any better, because now you choose for sis, if she wants to sleep with Vic or not, but by declining, the relationship between Vic and MC automatically ends. Wait, what? Why? What is the (game) logic behind this? It's complete BS. The story was never that good, but at least enjoyable, but the last update felt like 3 different writers tried to throw a bunch of stuff into it. It went downhill before, but that last update was the worst till now.
I remember that there was a lively discussion back then.
Lesbian NTR out of the blue, but... hey, avoidable because you can take control for a moment of one of the Lis
And two of the characters, out of the blue too, are prostitutes, but... hey, now with a sad backstory
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Congratulations, MrDots. You have made a game I don't want to play even for free.
I mean this is the rhetorical game right? You normalize your preferences and cast aspersions at content you don't like, so on, so forth.lol
Are you seriously giving as an example that we accept incest in a game about... incest? And that we do not accept prostitution in a game... where there was not the slightest hint of prostitution in the entire game?
Fuck, dude. Sorry for accepting incest in a game about incest and wanting vanilla stuff in vanilla games.
I'm going to complain to the Dating my Daughter thread about incest because the MC is dating his daughter.
That's what the past 30 pages are about? A lesbian sex scene? As much as I hate invoking redditisms, people really need to touch grass. It used to be ntr meant cheating. Then it was ntr meant any kind of male npc-female npc sex not involving mc. Now it's lesbian sex is ntr? What's next, any dialogue from any npc expressing attraction to other npcs is an ntr thoughtcrime?there's no ntr - just the tags over here are weird and applied by rolling dice.
There is a scene where Your Sister/Friend and Vicky, which are 2 potentional love interests, spent a night together (avoidable).
By definition it's NOT NTR, as no one of them wants or tries to steal MC's love interest away (which is crucial for NTR).
So if you call this build-up into a 3-some relationship in the end as "ntr", so it may be called ntr, as MC wasn't present
PS: that scene only happened if you are on BOTH paths (as said, it's the build up for a possible 3-some-ending).
Normal people would have noticed that anyways, and even the update later today will hint it.
I just wonder why other games with pure lesbian content and male MC don't get NTR tag applied, but hey, it's just a tag. If people feel better that way, so why not?
Cheating is cheating. Doesn't matter if it's with a man, woman, dog or alien from outer space, to me it's all the same. In the previous version (i haven't played the fixed version so i'm not sure about that), the MC's sister asks herself if it would be cheating on him if she slept with Vicky (protip: if you're unsure if something is cheating or not, it probably is) so yes, it's NTR.
. I'm actually trying to discuss the game here, unlike some others in this thread that are just shitting on the developer and their posts aren't being deleted.
And since we don't have to be shown, the people banging all over town would also qualify?
You started too late. Initially, NTR (Netorare) meant losing a romantic partner to another because they slept together. That's the literal meaning of the Japanese word.
I agree "technically" it's cheating, but lets be honest here, we're playing porn games, and for most men lesbian fetishism is a major aspect of harem group sex and is definitely treated differently than male-female sex. Most men (in a porn context, and outside of this crazy f95 bubble of reeee ntr ree) would enjoy seeing the girl kissing/licking another girl during a sexual encounter. That's not to say you or anyone must share that view, but it'd be naive not to see how normalized that is in regular porn. It's definitely not meant to cause jealousy, and definitely IS meant to cause titillation.Cheating is cheating. Doesn't matter if it's with a man, woman, dog or alien from outer space, to me it's all the same. In the previous version (i haven't played the fixed version so i'm not sure about that), the MC's sister asks herself if it would be cheating on him if she slept with Vicky (protip: if you're unsure if something is cheating or not, it probably is) so yes, it's NTR.
P.S: Mods, please don't delete my post this time
This is why context is important. Two of the MC's girls having sex with his knowledge/permission or them playing with each other during a threesome? Obviously not NTR, i think most reasonable people would agree with that. If it happens behind his back, though? Well, i will always consider such scenarios as NTR. Just because it's leading to a Sis/Vicky throuple/threesome, it doesn't change the fact that them having sex behind his back is cheating, and therefore NTR.
Obviously I havent played full game, I agree context is important - is he ever informed of it afterwards? How is it handled? Do they try and conceal it from him?
