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More insights into Vivian


Hello to all of our loyal supporters! How was your week?

Ours was very busy but also incredibly productive.

Thanks to everyone again for the kind feedback on our “Bella” post last weekend.

We do really appreciate your thoughts, regardless of whether it’s positive or not. It’s all helpful.

We are striving to make the best game possible and one that you will look forward to playing and replaying over and over again.

Today we are going to explore more about “Vivian, from our new game “Thief of Hearts!”

All about the Vivian character:

Vivian is the oldest of the main female love interests in the story.

But just because she doesn’t have Bella and Ariel’s youth, doesn’t make her any less desirable among men.

Vivian is the performer of the group, the one who can become another character if the occasion calls for it.

She’s better known as “The Actress”, as she wanted to become a superstar in the movie industry when she was younger.

But priorities changed for various reasons, and suddenly you, Bella and Ariel became the most important thing in her life.

Despite being a great actress, Vivian has a tendency to be a little self-conscious and insecure.

Ageing is a problem for her as she doesn’t want to lose her beauty and youth.

Despite what she considers to be flaws, she’s caring, loyal, very affectionate and as stylish a woman as you’re likely to encounter.

Having this kind of personality, while also being able to imitate different accents or pretend to be another person, makes her an important asset in your small group of thieves.

When she’s not playing her part in the team and being a devoted wife to Victor, the head of the group, she’s working as a waitress at a local restaurant in town.

Vivian has a soft spot for you, the main character.

Could you also be the rock that she clings to, and maybe even more than that?

Stay tuned for more sneak peeks from “Thief of Hearts” next weekend!

Have an awesome week,

MrDots
 

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More insights into Vivian


Hello to all of our loyal supporters! How was your week?

Ours was very busy but also incredibly productive.

Thanks to everyone again for the kind feedback on our “Bella” post last weekend.

We do really appreciate your thoughts, regardless of whether it’s positive or not. It’s all helpful.

We are striving to make the best game possible and one that you will look forward to playing and replaying over and over again.

Today we are going to explore more about “Vivian, from our new game “Thief of Hearts!”

All about the Vivian character:

Vivian is the oldest of the main female love interests in the story.

But just because she doesn’t have Bella and Ariel’s youth, doesn’t make her any less desirable among men.

Vivian is the performer of the group, the one who can become another character if the occasion calls for it.

She’s better known as “The Actress”, as she wanted to become a superstar in the movie industry when she was younger.

But priorities changed for various reasons, and suddenly you, Bella and Ariel became the most important thing in her life.

Despite being a great actress, Vivian has a tendency to be a little self-conscious and insecure.

Ageing is a problem for her as she doesn’t want to lose her beauty and youth.

Despite what she considers to be flaws, she’s caring, loyal, very affectionate and as stylish a woman as you’re likely to encounter.

Having this kind of personality, while also being able to imitate different accents or pretend to be another person, makes her an important asset in your small group of thieves.

When she’s not playing her part in the team and being a devoted wife to Victor, the head of the group, she’s working as a waitress at a local restaurant in town.

Vivian has a soft spot for you, the main character.

Could you also be the rock that she clings to, and maybe even more than that?

Stay tuned for more sneak peeks from “Thief of Hearts” next weekend!

Have an awesome week,

MrDots
not a fan of the hair style. Also looks too young to be a MILF especially the towel render. Her face shows some aging which is good but body looks like mid 20 year old.
 

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not a fan of the hair style. Also looks too young to be a MILF especially the towel render. Her face shows some aging which is good but body looks like mid 20 year old.
very few milfs on avns actually look like 40+, on this game 1 looked max 30 years old and other did look like 40 years old. gilfs look more on their age but still many look younger.
 
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yep most milfs in VNs have 18 years old body :p you guys should try to fuck some milf irl then you'll see sad reality :ROFLMAO:
well - i know some hot'n sexy 60 year olds which i wouldn't even hesitate to jump in bed with 'em - and on the other side i know several 18-25 year old "dragons" (not only by looks, but also by character) with which i would not even consider a slight chance of having sex - even if the survival of manhood would be on risk :p
 
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I don't wish to be reminded of the suffering of old age and a slow death. I don't mind the aforementioned delusions in AVNs. It's rather jarring to me to suddenly see an old lady trying to jump my bones. To each their own.
 
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I don't wish to be reminded of the suffering of old age and a slow death. I don't mind the aforementioned delusions in AVNs. It's rather jarring to me to suddenly see an old lady trying to jump my bones. To each their own.
avoid indecent desires, on that you see and fuck at least once great-great-gilfs who for sure look like actual age.
 

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Between first preview and 0.01 of Sunshine Love : 3 months and they worked on DMD too at this time.
 

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I'm new to the game and I was hoping to go with childhood friend route but here alot of people hate her. Can I know the reason behind it. So that I can know to pursue her route or not.
 

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I'm new to the game and I was hoping to go with childhood friend route but here alot of people hate her. Can I know the reason behind it. So that I can know to pursue her route or not.
Some people don't like how the sister pretty much tricks the MC into coming to help her with promise of good payment when in reality she's flat out broke. Others don't like she's "mandatory" love interest in early part of the game, with her and MC engaging in sexual activities even if the player wants to pursue other option(s) exclusively.

But ultimately i wouldn't bother with other people's opinions. Play the game and pursue her if you like her, or don't if you don't. Who cares what others think.
 
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ThorinKing

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I'm new to the game and I was hoping to go with childhood friend route but here alot of people hate her. Can I know the reason behind it. So that I can know to pursue her route or not.
Overwhelmingly, the people that hate it are those that think they were forced into it. They want all things optional and nothing canon forced upon them.
 

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We all agree that MC is a spineless douchebag .....
I promise that MC in next game is a different kind who knows exacrly what he wants.
And next MC will have WAYYYYYYY less inner monologues though
i didn't say the next MC is completely out of thoughts or a psychopath.
But what we did wrong in SL and what we want to change in next game is situations like:
MC (thinking):
Oh, she has a stunning body. Maybe i should spy on her. But it's not normal to spy on your sister. I shouldn't do that - she might catch me.
1.) peep on her nevertheless
2.) go away
....
There is no need to have such inner monologue. The player is the one leading MC's choices. So the player should be the one having such thoughts. We shouldn't tell the player what he/she has to think. It's more immersive when players make their own thoughts about what to do and why to do and maybe even feel the consequences.
It just would be weird to script "second thoughts" or even "morality" and let the player act the opposite way. Same goes other way around. If we would make the player having thoughts like a douchebag, the player will be upset too (see for example the flight at the end of SL).
We want the player to be more free in his own thoughts and being able to act that way he wants to play based on his own morality, and not based on a scripted one.

This has been the main "issue" i managed to convince MrDots to change about the games. And he liked my point of view. That's the reason i was called into the core team to develop the story arcs. Also my job is to "proofread" the scenes once they are written by Hearsz and change/tweak scenes where they "fall back into old habbits".
As the first release scenes are already written, i can assure you, that the mentionned "issues" are "solved" in "Thief of Hearts". It will be again a game with a main story arc like a novel, and not just a senseless fuck feast. Also this time there will be a dedicated possible full harem ending right from the start (on players choice).
(Sidenote: one of the main Sidegirls (we get to see her in first update for a short scene already) , having massive impact on the story the one way or the other, has been more or less my doing. She is exactly as i wanted her to be - by character, background story and her looks.)
Those two post give me a modicum of hope that things may be improving. The inner monologues alone were enough for me to not even finish SuLo. If that is really changing hopefully the needlessly fluffed dialogues will follow suite. Those two things have been an issue for the vast majority of players but it was particularly bad in the latest game.

Just a humble request from some nobody. Please, tone down the sixteen paragraph long inner monologue recaps at the end and beginning of each day... The player's memory is better than a goldfish's, we remember what happened two minutes ago.
 
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