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punisher2099

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Exactly right and also my biggest criticism of Mr dots games. He made 3 games over the course of 5+ years and I see almost no improvements in render or writing quality over all of those years.

im guessing it’s because they are still successful despite of it and so they’re taking the “if it isn’t broken, don’t fix it” approach.
The quality of the renders is fine I mean they're not grainy or blurry they're just...basic I guess?
 

jamdan

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I think they view this as a job first and foremost, which causes them to do production line-esque shortcuts. Hence the most basic poses and expressions. I find to hard to believe MrDots doesn't know how to make other expressions/poses or hasn't purchased any packages for them. Most of the renders don't use any DOF or interesting framing either. Just straight on with basic lighting.

It's just quicker to do it this way than to do it with more originality/effort. Which is disappointing, because they make plenty of money and can make the games higher quality pretty easily. But they don't, because as mentioned above, it's not "broken". So they don't "fix" it.
 

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Exactly right and also my biggest criticism of Mr dots games. He made 3 games over the course of 5+ years and I see almost no improvements in render or writing quality over all of those years.

im guessing it’s because they are still successful despite of it and so they’re taking the “if it isn’t broken, don’t fix it” approach.
You don't like Hearsz' writing and feel it hasn't changed, that is an opinion to have

But if you do not see a difference in DMD versus SuLo renders you are a blind old codger, man. Super blind
 
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You don't like Hearsz' writing and feel it hasn't changed, that is an opinion to have

But if you do not see a difference in DMD versus SuLo renders you are a blind old codger, man. Super blind
I'm getting up there, but Sunshine Love is hot. DMD looks mostly boring (too much teasing, dragged out - teasing sucks donkey balls.)
 

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You don't like Hearsz' writing and feel it hasn't changed, that is an opinion to have

But if you do not see a difference in DMD versus SuLo renders you are a blind old codger, man. Super blind
I never said I didn't like his writing. I'm saying his storytelling does not have any noticeable improvements. In fact, DMD ch1 to DMD ch4, the writing quality actually decreased. I think you're around here long enough to know that's a very common opinion so I don't know why you're so shocked.

Renders from DMD ch1 to now, yes there is a difference. But I attributed that more to better tech/graphic cards than skill improvement.

I'm not mad just disappointed. I know at the end of the day its a business and they have to pump out updates to appease the mass and make money. I guess I just want to see how high quality of a product Mr Dots and his team can have when they do things at their own pace rather than pump out Chinese made quality updates.
 

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I never said I didn't like his writing. I'm saying his storytelling does not have any noticeable improvements. In fact, DMD ch1 to DMD ch4, the writing quality actually decreased. I think you're around here long enough to know that's a very common opinion so I don't know why you're so shocked.

Renders from DMD ch1 to now, yes there is a difference. But I attributed that more to better tech/graphic cards than skill improvement.

I'm not mad just disappointed. I know at the end of the day its a business and they have to pump out updates to appease the mass and make money. I guess I just want to see how high quality of a product Mr Dots and his team can have when they do things at their own pace rather than pump out Chinese made quality updates.
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all scenes are equal - in both versions. Just the relationships changed slightly, same as some textlines. But basicially it's still the same main-story. You will miss no scenes - no matter what version you play.
any plans to include threesome scenes with ashley and her daughter?
 

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Will this game have a romantic ending with Yuki? or just friendship?
while unlikely i'd say possible only in that case that mc moves with her.

any plans to include threesome scenes with ashley and her daughter?
that's next to never since it'd be hard to set up on patreon version (dots stay well inside patreon rules after they were forced to take dmd off there).
 

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I never said I didn't like his writing. I'm saying his storytelling does not have any noticeable improvements. In fact, DMD ch1 to DMD ch4, the writing quality actually decreased. I think you're around here long enough to know that's a very common opinion so I don't know why you're so shocked.

Renders from DMD ch1 to now, yes there is a difference. But I attributed that more to better tech/graphic cards than skill improvement.

I'm not mad just disappointed. I know at the end of the day its a business and they have to pump out updates to appease the mass and make money. I guess I just want to see how high quality of a product Mr Dots and his team can have when they do things at their own pace rather than pump out Chinese made quality updates.
I think you misunderstand the structure of the sentences in my post.

I start with affirming your opinion. I do not share it but I did not discount it or disagree. (Or act shocked)

Then I follow with "But"

which is the transition to where I disagree, renders.

Dots used to have lower quality positioning and detail and very much lower quality animations. That first sex in Melody with Izzy was like a big leap. Animations are harder technically than rendering a pose as well so it is definitely more than some better hardware and Gen 8 DAZ. DMD chapter 1 versus 3 or 4 is using the same DAZ Gen 3 models and better GPU only means shorter time to cook. Visual improvements are skill improvements. And Ch 01 to Ch 04 is quite an improvement.


That is what I meant.




PEACE
 
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White Lamp

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I think you misunderstand the structure of the sentences in my post.

I start with affirming your opinion. I do not share it but I did not discount it or disagree. (Or act shocked)

Then I follow with "But"

which is the transition to where I disagree, renders.

Dots used to have lower quality positioning and detail and very much lower quality animations. That first sex in Melody with Izzy was like a big leap. Animations are harder technically than rendering a pose as well so it is definitely more than some better hardware and Gen 8 DAZ. DMD chapter 1 versus 3 or 4 is using the same DAZ Gen 3 models and better GPU only means shorter time to cook. Visual improvements are skill improvements. And Ch 01 to Ch 04 is quite an improvement.


That is what I meant.




PEACE

had those improvements been over a year, great. Over the course of 5+ years? If you average those improvements over 5 years it’s barely noticeable. Which was what I said in my original post.

they clearly could do better but chose not to.
 
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