harem.king

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Can corruption influence in some way bad evolution to become close to the beast? or is more clean and powerful with no corruption?
Nobody clearly knows in character. Out of character we don't clearly know either and only speculate based on info we got in game.

There are multiple theories from multiple NPCs in the game.
Most people believe it gives higher risk of monsterizing during breakthrough. But then again the level 5 who killed Ella is herself high corruption and says it is fine.

It can slightly alter your dialog and also lets you speak to monsters. Beyond that, we don't yet know.
 
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lorkdubo

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Eisheth is an S rank, not a God rank.
The gods are in a higher dimension and can only descend into the mortal world temporarily via possession.
Some S-ranks used to get worshiped as gods by primitive humans. But that doesn't make them actual Gods. Who are even higher than them.
There are 6 arbiters and 12 apostles. Eisheth should be the 9th 1st gen/child/chosen.
There are also outliers like:
- The Great Ocean
- Lord of Dark who is not an apostle if i understand correctly.
- Outer Twins
 

Krytax123

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As powerlevels seem to be a real scientific thing in the superhuman world, one thing kind confused me. the scanner helmets were able to read the superhumans powerlevels, wouldnt it be super easy to detect a "high"-lvl shapeshifter like our mc in this case? He obviously kinda stand out with a few others like Met.
 
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Dipasimaan

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There are 6 arbiters and 12 apostles. Eisheth should be the 9th 1st gen/child/chosen.
There are also outliers like:
- The Great Ocean
- Lord of Dark who is not an apostle if i understand correctly.
- Outer Twins
The Lord of the Dark is in fact the 7th apostle who we see in deadend3 IIRC
The Outer Twins should be the 5th and 6th that are Time and Ether/Space
 

bloodaxis

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Jesus this comment section are just cringe af,like let just the devs work on and see how the story goes on rather than imagine what will happen next,you had no power over It,so sit for 3 months and wait for the update rather than wasting time on write wall text about illuminati and meanings In the game that eventually later on will be not real,start respect you time and stop wasting It on bullshits thats are not even important.

Ps.I wish the ending would be like -->Then our MC awaken from the sleep In the hospital and this whole shit about monsters and superhumans was his imagination only to see how you all shit you pants and for the next 10 years write wall of meaningless text under this thread.
Weirdly dismissive of something normal, speculating about a well crafted story is half the fun. Feel free to play the game and then promptly forget everything about it or just not engage your brain at all, but please leave those of us who like talking about where the story might go alone.
 

nsfwdemanded

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As powerlevels seem to be a real scientific thing in the superhuman world, one thing kind confused me. the scanner helmets were able to read the superhumans powerlevels, wouldnt it be super easy to detect a "high"-lvl shapeshifter like our mc in this case? He obviously kinda stand out with a few others like Met.
Scanner only read energy levels. Ella is the only one who can see the system-like power levels.
 

nsfwdemanded

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MC gets a vision of a comment to such effect which was apparently aimed at Ella, when he touches one of the vials. I'd speculate this is because Ella stopped her 3rd evolution to save Christie, rather than kill her along with the others.
You are talking about how Mother talked to Ella about how Ella failed to get Mother's powers. Mother says "Failed, but suitable to birth" and that is about MC. Ella is Mother's heir but she is Father's heir. MC is accepted by both.

And if you ask Aglæcwif about "Tell me, what is the greatest power", she talks about how Order is the greatest power. To have both the Power and the Authority to enforce. And "She has never met any being who has acquired both since the origin." She also says that she heard from Ella about a potential inheritor but she says that it failed. I don't know if it's about Jake or MC, or that if Ella really protected MC by lying but it's a fact that only MC has the traits of both monters. And Aglæcwif says obtaning two traits from the numbered, claiming one of the original powers it will lead to a spawn that is unfathomably powerful.

The numbered comes as twins. The 1st is "The Authority" and the 2nd is "The Power". They are the firtst set. Second set is the 3rd, "The Body" and the 4th, "The Memory". When Aglæcwif talks about a power called Order, she is talking about a spawn of the 1st and the 2nd. And MC is the spawn of the 3rd and the 4th. A spawn that was never seen before. And through out the first part of the game, both the 3rd and the 4th talks to us about how "we" don 't take orders from the the 1st.

I'm off topic now, sorry about that. What I wanted to say is, when Ella talks about how she is not the one afterall or when she says to MC on one of the dead ends about "so you were already perfect from the beginning", she is talking about having the powers from both twins, not just one. Ella has the power of the 3rd, and she is the heir as 3rd has accepted her. But 4th has rejected her as Ella does not have the powers of her and didn't get both. But MC does, and accepted by both 3rd and 4th.

But I have absolutely no idea what or who the eye that speaks to MC during dreams or evolutions is. Is it the Order that Aglæcwif talked about? Or is the something other than the Order and has a different name but one that stands on equal grounds to Order? Is it one of the original powers, or is it "the original" power? No idea, still waiting for the definite answer.
 

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You are talking about how Mother talked to Ella about how Ella failed to get Mother's powers. Mother says "Failed, but suitable to birth" and that is about MC. Ella is Mother's heir but she is Father's heir. MC is accepted by both.

And if you ask Aglæcwif about "Tell me, what is the greatest power", she talks about how Order is the greatest power. To have both the Power and the Authority to enforce. And "She has never met any being who has acquired both since the origin." She also says that she heard from Ella about a potential inheritor but she says that it failed. I don't know if it's about Jake or MC, or that if Ella really protected MC by lying but it's a fact that only MC has the traits of both monters. And Aglæcwif says obtaning two traits from the numbered, claiming one of the original powers it will lead to a spawn that is unfathomably powerful.

The numbered comes as twins. The 1st is "The Authority" and the 2nd is "The Power". They are the firtst set. Second set is the 3rd, "The Body" and the 4th, "The Memory". When Aglæcwif talks about a power called Order, she is talking about a spawn of the 1st and the 2nd. And MC is the spawn of the 3rd and the 4th. A spawn that was never seen before. And through out the first part of the game, both the 3rd and the 4th talks to us about how "we" don 't take orders from the the 1st.

I'm off topic now, sorry about that. What I wanted to say is, when Ella talks about how she is not the one afterall or when she says to MC on one of the dead ends about "so you were already perfect from the beginning", she is talking about having the powers from both twins, not just one. Ella has the power of the 3rd, and she is the heir as 3rd has accepted her. But 4th has rejected her as Ella does not have the powers of her and didn't get both. But MC does, and accepted by both 3rd and 4th.

But I have absolutely no idea what or who the eye that speaks to MC during dreams or evolutions is. Is it the Order that Aglæcwif talked about? Or is the something other than the Order and has a different name but one that stands on equal grounds to Order? Is it one of the original powers, or is it "the original" power? No idea, still waiting for the definite answer.
The "Eye" is called The Arbiter. The Arbiters are a step above the numbered Apostles. The fact that MC has both the Body and Memory trait makes him a vessel for it, as seen in the dead end where the MC succumbs to the Arbiter during his 3rd evolution.
 

nsfwdemanded

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The "Eye" is called The Arbiter. The Arbiters are a step above the numbered Apostles. The fact that MC has both the Body and Memory trait makes him a vessel for it, as seen in the dead end where the MC succumbs to the Arbiter during his 3rd evolution.
Okay, I didn't know the name so thank you but what is an Arbiter? A judge? What is it for? Deus killed it at the end, so is it weak afterall? This just breeds more questions
 

bloodaxis

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Okay, I didn't know the name so thank you but what is an Arbiter? A judge? What is it for? Deus killed it at the end, so is it weak afterall? This just breeds more questions
It was both incomplete, and basically newly reborn in our third evolution body or whatever. Seeing as how it didn't have much trouble with everything else it also seems as if Deus was uniquely suited to kill it, what with having time related powers.
 

hornywolf

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Many people didn't touch on the "MC's Mother" subject up until recently and it would be just theories.
But with the new update it was clear that your memories with your mom wasn't locked away cause of trauma rather because someone or smt intentionally locked them.

We know that we are the chosen son of third because it's been mentioned many times. We know for a fact that it's no Ella because it's been showed many times that our powers and connection is lot more potent than hers hence one of the early dead end game overs is you telling her about your jelly fish and memoy power. Even the picture we found shows that Ella was a test subject and her powers are probably nowhere near MC.
All and all considering how MC is missing and eye , The dad is missing one and the third always manifect itself as an eye, All leads me to believe that the mother is either a monster or smt way more which in my opinion she is way more than a simple monster and she is not a super human otherwise she wouldn't be able to give birth to us.
 

Gtdead

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Many people didn't touch on the "MC's Mother" subject up until recently and it would be just theories.
But with the new update it was clear that your memories with your mom wasn't locked away cause of trauma rather because someone or smt intentionally locked them.

We know that we are the chosen son of third because it's been mentioned many times. We know for a fact that it's no Ella because it's been showed many times that our powers and connection is lot more potent than hers hence one of the early dead end game overs is you telling her about your jelly fish and memoy power. Even the picture we found shows that Ella was a test subject and her powers are probably nowhere near MC.
All and all considering how MC is missing and eye , The dad is missing one and the third always manifect itself as an eye, All leads me to believe that the mother is either a monster or smt way more which in my opinion she is way more than a simple monster and she is not a super human otherwise she wouldn't be able to give birth to us.
The Eye and the Third are different entities. The Third is subservient to the Eye as shown during the third evolution.
MC doesn't seem to miss an eye. His eyes are Blue and Pink, which correspond to the colors of the two Apostles (Third and Fourth).
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As for the mother herself, there have been many theories. These are mine:

A) In the latest update she tells a story about another world and calls herself human, which opens the possibility that she is an althuman of some kind, perhaps similar to the ones in shopkeep's item memories.

B) Another possibility is that she is a monster similar to the A Class hunt. MC reads lightning and thunder in it's memories, along with it not wanting to go back. He also comments how the Fourth turned into this monster.

1) The Fourth turns into a woman with blue hair covering her eyes.
2) The monster has red hair covering it's eyes and MC sees a lot of similarities between it and the Fourth.
3) MC's mother has blue hair covering her eyes.
4) One of the theories is that the Fourth tried to turn into MC's mother during the infection.
5) Both MC's mother and the monster seem to dislike lightning.
 
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The Eye and the Third are different entities. The Third is subservient to the Eye as shown during the third evolution.
MC doesn't seem to miss an eye. His eyes are Blue and Pink, which correspond to the colors of the two Apostles (Third and Fourth).
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As for the mother herself, there have been many theories. These are mine:

A) In the latest update she tells a story about another world and calls herself human, which opens the possibility that she is an althuman of some kind, perhaps similar to the ones in shopkeep's item memories.

B) Another possibility is that she is a monster similar to the A Class hunt. MC reads lightning and thunder in it's memories, along with it not wanting to go back. He also comments how the Fourth turned into this monster.

1) The Fourth turns into a woman with blue hair covering her eyes.
2) The monster has red hair covering it's eyes and MC sees a lot of similarities between it and the Fourth.
3) MC's mother has blue hair covering her eyes.
4) One of the theories is that the Fourth tried to turn into MC's mother during the infection.
5) Both MC's mother and the monster seem to dislike lightning.
yo what scene is the eye reveal from? I can't remember
 
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