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Not sure how this game flew under my radar for so long but I'm really interested in giving it a shot. Would you guys say it's a good time to get into it? I'd rather wait if there are something like reworks on the horizon for example.
I think it's a pretty good time to get into it, there's loads of content there already, and WW is pretty stable and keeps updating every 2/3 months or so, don't know how long it'll be until the game is ready though. And no indications of any from the start reworks or anything, I assume they'd want to wait until the end is done and then maybe redo the beginning a bit or something, at least that's the impression I've gotten. As an aside, this is the only patreon game I've thrown money to despite having enjoyed others so that should tell you something.
 

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Ah welcome new fellow perverts to this little forum just look out for 69 he is a furry and with drako i don't know where to begin on what is wrong with him XD we also have dogclappers if that's your thing. Just remember if you feel the Need to go out to look for a goth chick just don't you are not gonna end a superhuman; most likely gonna end up in a satanic orgy or in a icetub missing a Kidney Lol or worst of all married to the goth chick i hate you peanuts bird i can't remember the name offXD
 
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ItzSyther

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Chief dogclapper here! We worship Lady Shadow, the best girl!

We are accepting any and all applicants to our ranks as long as you meet the following requirements:
1) Worship Lady Shadow
2) Denounce any and all other girls (we will allow certain girls to bypass this rule but just remember Shadow is the superior one)
 
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vogelbeest

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2) Denounce any and all other girls
Nope, waiting for the Liz and Amber water elemental awakening! Hot, cold, does the washing, the dishes, keeps your drinks cool! And it's nice to look at! Think about that when you're up at unholy times walking the lady... ;)


Onsen.jpg or shadow.jpg :)
 
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ItzSyther

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Nope, waiting for the Liz and Amber water elemental awakening! Hot, cold, does the washing, the dishes, keeps your drinks cool! And it's nice to look at! Think about that when you're up at unholy times walking the lady... ;)


View attachment 2686451 or View attachment 2686460 :)
I'll gladly be up at ungodly times walking the fair lady (not like I'm not up at ungodly times alone anyway :cry:)

Liz can go elsewhere but Amber she's nice, keeping 'er around sounds like a good idea.
 

DrakoGhoul

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Welcome, I suppose. In this corner we only worship Mommy 4th. No woman, monster or animal is above her glory. We also denounce Ella on principal. The only exception to the rule is Lexi and Dani. You're also allowed all of the human, superhuman and monster booty you can handle. As long as you accept and know that Goddess 4th is best Monster Mommy.

I can't remember exactly but if my memory doesn't fail me, the first dead end where she just outright kills us she hasn't evolved to level 5 yet, so she probably kills us to consume us and let her get the trait while evolving. The second dead end she has, but it's interrupted by something that's likely to be the seventh/lord of dark/apostle devourer. This also falls in line with the way I see Ella, a schemer, but very much someone who only has a goal, minutiae/details are planned on a whim and when fancy strikes her.

So canonically she probably found out about our memory power after we joined HERO and now she needs to find a way to both hit HERO where it hurts, which would be the base and their resources/research material, along with getting their posterboy away from them at the same time. For that to happen there needs to be some serious revelations that would make the MC actually likely to defect (maybe that HERO failed to prevent/inadvertently caused his moms death or something, maybe they wanted the research material and were willing to wait until the monster struck, like that Minyak with Clark.

As for her not working with Nyx and with Deus, personally I think she's not necessarily working with either, Nyx likely just transactions for personal gain on both sides, Deus more him allowing her to do what she wants and not actively helping to stop her because he knows that will lead to whatever he wants. In any case, I'm looking forward to the next couple updates or until we get to see how Ella's actually going to get us to join her, not SIN mind you, that's so clearly not her scene, just her and her closest posse of dumbarses.


I want to break her past her limits, doubt it's possible though, but sure would be sweet if it was, she needs some comeuppance. :KEK:
Both of those dead ends were before the MC evolved to level 2. For me, I'm of the opinion she found out about his Memory Trait when he reached level 2. Around the time before he really fought Jake. The reason for that is because he started using it a lot around that time and because Deryl was on Ella side since the beach. He also likely had Zara's mark with Charlie's oath and told her everything about the MC.

As for the helping part, I've pretty much said the same, with Deus. His "help" just amounts to allowing her plan to succeed.

More serums would be one option to get balance between HERO and SIN. But with Ella's plan to summon the Apostles there's not much reason for her, effectively these 12 Apostles would be just as good or even better as the 12 5th evolution HERO's.

So if Ella is "dead" and in HERO containment, there's still the matter of how to escape that room where her powers are suppressed. Possible gain; a bunch serums, Oscar and Klaus bodies, perhaps even Kenny or some others...
Maybe the last 4 hearts she needs, but that's just speculation, she managed to get 8 hearts without much problems...
The only thing i can think of is the body of the "uncategorised", that's unique... Overall there's not much gains and high risk.

Now if Ella just made an extra body again and escaped? That means she can work on summoning the Apostles...
The marked HERO agents could be traded or even used in order to get those bodies... But most importantly Ella would not need to depend on others... So it seems to be the logical choice... At least for Ella it would be. And she would still have her "dead" body inside HERO...

Lets face it, why would you hide in a crack of another dimension, when you know it's just a matter of time, the battle itself only had one outcome... Even if SIN would have won some fights, the battle was already lost to begin with...
With the help of the hexenring they could have simply relocated right? Malik was neutralised for some time just so the battle would not have ended too soon, Ella never really went for the kill, she mostly was stalling and turned Duncan into a tree...

Breeding Aglaecwif, marking a bunch HERO agents, the Duncan Tree, de-monsterfying Deryl, 20k human soldiers dead, 36 superhumans dead/MIA... And Ella presumed dead, HERO has the body.... What did Ella gain here? And it was really mostly Aglaecwif that paid the price... It was her sons getting slaughtered and some other monsters, but no SIN members..
We know Langdon needed Ella to distract HERO... So that one worked, but knowing Ella there must have been more gains.
And if breeding Aglaecwif was worth her offers and her loyalty to Ella, the fight against Junior might be very hard...
The serums aren't for Ella. They're for the people she has on her side that are stuck. The dangerous superhumans, monsters and so on are worth the effort. Especially because they'll likely join her side and fulfill her needs. It's not about Klaus or the others bodies. They're completely irrelevant actually and have no benefit. She won't be summoning the Apostles anytime soon so it's not an either or choice and it's not like this action wouldn't contribute to the act itself.

She likely did struggle to get 8 hearts, especially since she complained about the purity of them. So why take the extra time to gather more of the perfect purity when you can just get the "uncategorized" bodies from HERO that have guaranteed purity? Her body is also not contained in the power nullification room. As far as I know, the Negative Energy is still flowing through her. Malik and the others are confident that she's dead so they likely don't have her in that room. If they did, they wouldn't have to wait until it wore off to dissect her.

Ella stands to gain a lot from this infiltration. Serums, monster gear, information on HERO's superhumans, possible Apostle corpses and the locations of others that were found by Deus and Zack over the years. Then there's the new imprisoned allies and the MC. That's all worth it. Especially since she didn't lose a damn thing during HERO's infiltration of her base, like I pointed out. None of her students really did anything besides standing around. Hex, Goliath and Aglaecwif all got away so nothing of value was lost.

Why would Ella play around and not escape if it wasn't intentional? If her failure was set in stone from the start and she knew it, why would she willingly do the dumb thing and make herself large enough to be hit by Nyx? She already knew about Nyx's power. Why didn't she escape after ordering the others that they're retreating? She was still busy fighting with Nico. Unless you think her ultimate goal was to kill Nico so she can trap Malik and them in the collapsing dimension but she would've known that would fail as soon as he broke free so why would she continue to stall?

Using your own thought about Aglaecwif against you, why didn't Ella leave after she got bred then? If getting her loyalty was one of the goals then she completed that earlier on. In fact, she completed all of her assumed goals, minus killing Nico, so why was she still there? Why didn't Hex teleport her away? We know he can do it, even if Nico is there because he escaped with Cole and them during their fight.

So for me, I'm thinking her goal was always to use her own body as a trojan horse to get back into HERO. She intentionally got herself hit by Nyx. All so she can gather resources and beings for her own side, outside of SIN. I don't see my stance changing on this until we get further info.
 

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Not sure how this game flew under my radar for so long but I'm really interested in giving it a shot. Would you guys say it's a good time to get into it? I'd rather wait if there are something like reworks on the horizon for example.
I don't think you should be worried about reworks any time soon, the art is the only thing close to that but WW (the author) has been improving it as the updates are released, meaning the art seems to get better and better every new update and when you reach the last content it will be very clear.

There is a good amount of content (it suprised me the first time i played cause it was a lot) so you will have much to enjoy. Give it a chance and the world will just suck you in, but i suggest to not zoom through the content, the story is great but reading is not everyone's priority in porn games, so it's something to consider if it's not your cup of tea.

I must admit that i knew about this game for some time before giving it a chance, the art was a little strange to me, and now i can't praise it enough.
 

ItzSyther

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I think we started to forget who is the best waifu here.
#ALICE SUPREMACY
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It is I that shall cast the first stone....Alice is mid....let the Waifu wars begin.

Dogclappers we must assemble to defend the honor of our Lady Shadow!
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Her beauty knows no bounds! We shall strike the Alice Supremacy brigade while they are distracted by her big ass tits!

Once that is over we shall establish our dominance over the remaining Waifu factions. Our only true threat is those who worship mommy 4th....and the weird few who like NTR Liz.
 
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It is I that shall cast the first stone....Alice is mid....let the Waifu wars begin.

Dogclappers we must assemble to defend the honor of our Lady Shadow!
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Her beauty knows no bounds! We shall strike the Alice Supremacy brigade while they are distracted by her big ass tits!

Once that is over we shall establish our dominance over the remaining Waifu factions. Our only true threat is those who worship mommy 4th....and the weird few who like NTR Liz.
Dare You Challenge Alice's Supremacy
one foolish move but bring your argument about Shadow
and why she is better than Goddess Alice for the table
Brother
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RonaldGrand6969

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necromater Supremacy is CLEARY where it's at. He speaks like a true cult leader husbando we can all get behind. He also knows big titty goth milfs so I mean COMON...

Down with the Shadow furry cult and her Grand Priest ItzSyther. Shadow gives you a finger or something like that so do you want big titty goth milfs? Or fingers and fur...

DrakoGhoul cult can also fuck itself because he's a cunt or something I dunno.

King_In_Yellow knows nothing about true waifus using Alice as an example with Grand Priest openup212. They offer gingers which we all know don't exist anymore.
 
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ItzSyther

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Dare You Challenge Alice's Supremacy
one foolish move but bring your argument about Shadow
and why she is better than Goddess Alice for the table
Brother
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I bring my argument brother!

Fairest Lady Shadow is a sweet and gentlewoman who cares for her sister, the low self esteem queen or otherwise known as Emily. Lady Shadow for many moons defended her sister and even though she is getting old she still does her life long duty.

She is loyal without fault, no malice lurks in her old but goddamn sexy body....forgive me....it was getting a little steamy...where was I...ah yes...

Lady Shadow is loyal and harbors no malice against those whom she is loyal towards. It is why I worship her so much...she giveth us all her beautiful words...and what do you all do?

YOU WORSHIP PRETENDERS! ALL OF YOU! Those who snatched away what was rightfully hers! Overshadowed by big ass tits and asses...human women are deceivers and you have all been tricked!

We have DrakoGhoul who worships a literal monster and he is being tricked by that meannnnnn suck.

Then we have people such as yourself brother and openup212 whom have been tricked by Alice's sob story...it was told to me in a vision during my time in the mists of wander...Alice is judas the great betrayer.

She acts loyal but do not be deceived...behind those good looks is a woman who is willing to do anything to get what she wants...unlike our fairest Shadow who is loyal without fault and without malice.

Glory to Shadow the fairest maiden.

-Grand Prophet Syther
 

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Not sure how this game flew under my radar for so long but I'm really interested in giving it a shot. Would you guys say it's a good time to get into it? I'd rather wait if there are something like reworks on the horizon for example.
Excellent time to get into the game. The art keeps improving as you progress the game. The only odd thing to get used to is the giant boobs lol.

Doesn't have as much content as The Last Sovereign, but there's a good amount of content to get you through a week or two.
 

DrakoGhoul

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My cult is the fairest of them all. All you need to do is worship our Monster Mommy, who gave you your power, and know that she's above all else. If you do that, you can have every other woman in your harem, as many as you can take. From normal humans, superhumans and monsters. Even animals, if that's your thing. You can even have pets... Like Ella. As long as you stay faithful, you won't end up as a memory.

As for you dogclappers out there. Think about this for a second. Our Goddess, The 4th, can turn and grant Shadow powers along with a greater lifespan. You saw Valravn, now imagine that but with Shadow. You would also be able to actually breed her as well, like Aglaecwif. Imagine it, giving your lady shadow litters of puppies while having her by your side for 100s to 1000s of years. Something you can't do currently. Now what do you have to say, my dear junior cultists?

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ItzSyther

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As for you dogclappers out there. Think about this for a second. Our Goddess, The 4th, can turn and grant Shadow powers along with a greater lifespan. You saw Valravn, now imagine that but with Shadow. You would also be able to actually breed her as well, like Aglaecwif. Imagine it, giving your lady shadow litters of puppies while having her by your side for 100s to 1000s of years. Something you can't do currently. Now what do you have to say, my dear junior cultists?
I nearly fell for thy tricks child of mommy 4th...the idea of breeding Shadow and granting her a longer lifespan is my very dream...but as a loyal follower of Shadow I shall never worship another over her! That is where thy ruse fell apart.

There is only one girl for I and the rest of the glorious cult of Shadow and that is Lady Shadow herself....we shall allow Emily to watch as we breed her far more attractive sister!

But on this day I, who cast the first stone shall I agree that keeping Ella as a pet is a stupendous idea! Good on you child of mommy 4th.
 

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I nearly fell for thy tricks child of mommy 4th...the idea of breeding Shadow and granting her a longer lifespan is my very dream...but as a loyal follower of Shadow I shall never worship another over her! That is where thy ruse fell apart.

There is only one girl for I and the rest of the glorious cult of Shadow and that is Lady Shadow herself....we shall allow Emily to watch as we breed her far more attractive sister!

But on this day I, who cast the first stone shall I agree that keeping Ella as a pet is a stupendous idea! Good on you child of mommy 4th.
Imagine it, Syther. Walking with your lady Shadow for centuries. Fucking her doggy style while telling her she's a good girl and her responding with more than just a tail wag. To be able to play catch and fetch with your dozens of puppies in the park. She doesn't have to be just a fond memory in 2 to 3 years. You can have all those moments and many more forever. As long as you put Mommy 4th as 1st and above all else.

Think about it, you rather her be fond memory for years after she's gone or a loyal companion ready to protect and serve by your side forever. Siring you plenty of children...

Come on, Syther. You know you want it. Join me, junior brother and it'll all be yours. Our Mommy 4th guarantees it. :devilish:
 

ItzSyther

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Imagine it, Syther. Walking with your lady Shadow for centuries. Fucking her doggy style while telling her she's a good girl and her responding with more than just a tail wag. To be able to play catch and fetch with your dozens of puppies in the park. She doesn't have to be just a fond memory in 2 to 3 years. You can have all those moments and many more forever. As long as you put Mommy 4th as 1st and above all else.

Think about it, you rather her be fond memory for years after she's gone or a loyal companion ready to protect and serve by your side forever. Siring you plenty of children...

Come on, Syther. You know you want it. Join me, junior brother and it'll all be yours. Our Mommy 4th guarantees it. :devilish:
I have pondered this long enough and have decided my course of action...

I pledge my allegiance to Mommy 4th...I must ensure the one who captured my heart, Lady Shadow has a long life...and of course to breed.

I thank you for opening my eyes elder brother Drako.

Long may Mommy 4th hold and embrace us all!
 
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