Dipasimaan

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Yeah. That is a hard to kill bitch. Try a new hobby it does help no chick hunting is not a hobby that's looking for trouble when you are down even if you are up XD.
No joining a sect either.
Maybe learning a martial art?.
Write a porn novel on ren'py and get a lot of fans for the story instead of the porn it worked for W.W XD
A sect sounds fun tho...
some martial arts i already know so I could maybe try another
for the porn novel...I don't really know how to use ren'py or any other program for that matter and even if I could I would unite some people more fucked up than even Papa Syther (I'm into some really weird shit) so I rather not:HideThePain:
 

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Shit thinking about it...the fucking notion a level 1 could even dream to kill a level 5 makes me giggle.

A level 1 mind you can still be killed outright by a group of regular humans and they have to get lucky against a level 2.
Lol it makes me think about that battle against Ella in the bad end near the very beginning of the game... back then I honestly thought that if we got all the power points we could push Ella at least a little to get something out of her, now I just want to smack my past self for even thinking something so ludicrous. Even the MC himself gets a "what the fuck was I thinking" when the avatars appear.

actually it's implied that deus is level 4
Damn it's worse than I thought then, imagine what kinda of fuckery can happen when the guy hits level 5. Do you remember where it was mentioned that Deus is still a 4? Must've been a bit sleepy when reading that tidbit and it eluded me.
 

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But enough about edgy middle school stuff. If Mia were to become a superhuman what powers do y'all think she'll develop?
 

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So, I'm listening to music while being lost in my thoughts(the song is Dulcinea by Black Tape For A Blue Girl, if anyone is curious). Thinking about the Apostles and whatnot because it's on my mind. I just remembered/realized that the 7th is actually immune to it's own twin power.

I'm getting a bit ahead of myself so let me start at the beginning. If I recall Valravn and the 7th's abilities correctly, they're immune to several abilities, which includes Light itself. Now, I'm sure everyone is onboard with, or at least can see why the 8th Apostle could be Light, so they'll see where I'm going here. This basically makes the 7th the most broken Apostle. If even his twin's trait of Light can't stalemate or harm him then what can? Like yeah, we already knew he was overpowered before that but I just realized even his twin sister or brother can't affect him. Light and Dark are naturally a duality and usually portrayed as being each other's weakness but that isn't the case with the 7th.

This also has me curious what ability the 8th received. 7th could wield light via it's eye but could the 8th wield dark in some form and what way would it manifest? Hell, could the eye of the 7th actually be it's sibling's corpse compressed and contained in it's head? Or maybe the 8th's eye is like it's twin but with a wisp like darkness that has the same ability as Val's Black Night or fires off will-o-wisps that have similar effects to his dark energy slashes? This is probably all pointless since they're possibly dead or in a coma somewhere.

Anyway, that's my thoughts I had today. I honestly can't wait until we get another massive lore dump like with Aglaecwif. It could happen next update but I don't think we'll get too much.
 

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So, I'm listening to music while being lost in my thoughts(the song is Dulcinea by Black Tape For A Blue Girl, if anyone is curious). Thinking about the Apostles and whatnot because it's on my mind. I just remembered/realized that the 7th is actually immune to it's own twin power.

I'm getting a bit ahead of myself so let me start at the beginning. If I recall Valravn and the 7th's abilities correctly, they're immune to several abilities, which includes Light itself. Now, I'm sure everyone is onboard with, or at least can see why the 8th Apostle could be Light, so they'll see where I'm going here. This basically makes the 7th the most broken Apostle. If even his twin's trait of Light can't stalemate or harm him then what can? Like yeah, we already knew he was overpowered before that but I just realized even his twin sister or brother can't affect him. Light and Dark are naturally a duality and usually portrayed as being each other's weakness but that isn't the case with the 7th.

This also has me curious what ability the 8th received. 7th could wield light via it's eye but could the 8th wield dark in some form and what way would it manifest? Hell, could the eye of the 7th actually be it's sibling's corpse compressed and contained in it's head? Or maybe the 8th's eye is like it's twin but with a wisp like darkness that has the same ability as Val's Black Night or fires off will-o-wisps that have similar effects to his dark energy slashes? This is probably all pointless since they're possibly dead or in a coma somewhere.

Anyway, that's my thoughts I had today. I honestly can't wait until we get another massive lore dump like with Aglaecwif. It could happen next update but I don't think we'll get too much.
Yeah i'm a more power metal guy and not really into graveyard music but sounds good.

So i found a picture of the 7th
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LOL ;)
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Yeah i'm a more power metal guy and not really into graveyard music but sounds good.

So i found a picture of the 7th
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I actually can't think or relax that well while listening to metal. I need something to set the mood for my thoughts to flow well.

Damn it's worse than I thought then, imagine what kinda of fuckery can happen when the guy hits level 5. Do you remember where it was mentioned that Deus is still a 4? Must've been a bit sleepy when reading that tidbit and it eluded me.
It's implied when you talk to Lisa in the library after reaching Level 3. She tells you Team Lucifer only has 4 Level 5s and 1 Level 4. Using the process of elimination, Malik, Lexi and Clark are confirmed to be Level 5. Nico was a bit of a mystery prior but she confirmed herself this update during the Asura fight so that leaves only Deus.

If it was honestly Nico, that would so bad for Ella :KEK: . But it's Deus, which brought about the theory that Deus likely has dual traits like the MC. He's way too powerful to the point that even Valravn said he's much stronger than Nico during their encounter at that restaurant. Forgot the specific comment he made but he feared Deus more than Nico and thought he shouldn't be like that which says it all really.
 

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I actually can't think or relax that well while listening to metal. I need something to set the mood for my thoughts to flow well.


It's implied when you talk to Lisa in the library after reaching Level 3. She tells you Team Lucifer only has 4 Level 5s and 1 Level 4. Using the process of elimination, Malik, Lexi and Clark are confirmed to be Level 5. Nico was a bit of a mystery prior but she confirmed herself this update during the Asura fight so that leaves only Deus.

If it was honestly Nico, that would so bad for Ella :KEK: . But it's Deus, which brought about the theory that Deus likely has dual traits like the MC. He's way too powerful to the point that even Valravn said he's much stronger than Nico during their encounter at that restaurant. Forgot the specific comment he made but he feared Deus more than Nico and thought he shouldn't be like that which says it all really.
I get you i like instrumental for those moments let the music flow it's just that i'm not fan of slow tempo
If the violín ain't making smoke the jam is not my thing XD
 
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I am running on pure fumes and I fucking took a lovely nap in my boss's daughter's car so that was fun.

anyway onto the chores
I mean my outlined reasons are why I think that yes. The primary one being that hasn't been countered except by the notion of it being thrown against itself mind you that with power negation tech, level stops mattering anywhere near as much, if their powers are nerfed at near totality why couldn't a level 3 or even 2 or hell even a 1 beat a 5? They aren't really a level 5 if they can't use the majority of their strength if any of it I'd argue.

The notion that this cannot be done when certain steps are made is frankly asinine at least in how its been portrayed here. Especially given that the very backbone of my assertion comes from in game reveals and information. Would it be a fair fight? No but that has never been my point, it would be an execution essentially with how weakened the foe would need to be but it would still be a supposed "lesser" bringing down someone who could likely otherwise defeat from sheer power and turning that in on itself.
You are assuming current power negation tech can affect a level 5 and even if it could it wouldn't be near enough against the current set of level 5s we know of.

Lets pretend just for a moment it does work on them fully...guess what yeah they can't use their powers but they still went through each stage (rebirth, balancing, strengthening (which Xanthe refers to as the most important), limit breaker (to summarizes the superhuman at this stage breaks through some limitations of their powers, and finally the fifth evolution where Xanthe states at this level you have transcended humanity entirely and even if all the humans banded together they couldn't stop anyone at this stage (presumably level 1s can be included in this factor).

Since level 5 superhumans underwent the strengthening stage they are more than capable of tanking WHATEVER a level 1 could FEASIBLY throw at them.

You arguing that with enough prep time and just pray to the mommy 4th that they are exhausted enough to the point a level 1 can kill them is asinie...not to mention the fact the 4th evolution allows a superhuman to do some fucking wild shit that their powers couldn't do prior the odds are stacked in the level 5's favor even with power negation, you can't rid them of their base body, their body is literally...well a tank well even more than a tank...hell I'd argue most superhumans at level 5 could move at the speed of light (depending on what gave them their power of course) so even without their power they can just move faster than whatever the level 1 prepped.

And no...the fight wouldn't be fair...it'd be a fucking massacre for any level 1 that'd even dare to try to fight a level 5.

MC a level 3 couldn't even sense monster mommy who presumably is on the same level as the level 5s or below them how do you think a level 1 would fare against someone like her? They'd die, the same way they'd die a cruel death against a level 5.

Anyway I'm too tired for this shit and arguing about it any further will go nowhere because you can't accept the simple reality that a level 1 simply can't (and never will) beat a level 5 even if they had dual traits they'd still still be sooooo far behind a level 5 even with that nifty advantage...even if you fudge the whole thing in the level 1's favor the lore and rules of the levels still favor the level 5 (yes, even with power negation).

Anyway ima go crash and watch some man vs food.
 

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I got a question It has been a while since I played from the beginning but if I remember correctly there was a dead end in which if we fought Ella,she was so impressed that she would call Mc perfect and then she would take us to the Apostle before we get killed by the 7th?so my confusion was when in the start Ella got to know we got both traits she was estatic but if I remember correctly when we revealed mind powers during a training session she killed Mc I didn't understand why she killed the mc in the second scenario and why we got to bang her in the first lol .
 

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I get you i like instrumental for those moments let the music flow it's just that i'm not fan of slow tempo
If the violín ain't making smoke the jam is not my thing XD
No worries, I get you. Some days, stuff like Shades of Violet or Cemetery Cowboy(both by Vestron Vulture) does the trick for me and other days stuff along the line of "Hurt" by Maruex works. I don't really know why but my musical taste leaned towards these more as I got older. I guess they ease my mind and let it wander easier than others. I actually don't even play this game with too much upbeat music because it's hard to concentrate on my thoughts and the dialogue of the game. Most of the music WW chose is fine but I tend to lower it while playing. I only use my own playlist after the 1st playthrough of an update.

I am running on pure fumes and I fucking took a lovely nap in my boss's daughter's car so that was fun.

anyway onto the chores

You are assuming current power negation tech can affect a level 5 and even if it could it wouldn't be near enough against the current set of level 5s we know of.

Lets pretend just for a moment it does work on them fully...guess what yeah they can't use their powers but they still went through each stage (rebirth, balancing, strengthening (which Xanthe refers to as the most important), limit breaker (to summarizes the superhuman at this stage breaks through some limitations of their powers, and finally the fifth evolution where Xanthe states at this level you have transcended humanity entirely and even if all the humans banded together they couldn't stop anyone at this stage (presumably level 1s can be included in this factor).

Since level 5 superhumans underwent the strengthening stage they are more than capable of tanking WHATEVER a level 1 could FEASIBLY throw at them.

You arguing that with enough prep time and just pray to the mommy 4th that they are exhausted enough to the point a level 1 can kill them is asinie...not to mention the fact the 4th evolution allows a superhuman to do some fucking wild shit that their powers couldn't do prior the odds are stacked in the level 5's favor even with power negation, you can't rid them of their base body, their body is literally...well a tank well even more than a tank...hell I'd argue most superhumans at level 5 could move at the speed of light (depending on what gave them their power of course) so even without their power they can just move faster than whatever the level 1 prepped.

And no...the fight wouldn't be fair...it'd be a fucking massacre for any level 1 that'd even dare to try to fight a level 5.

MC a level 3 couldn't even sense monster mommy who presumably is on the same level as the level 5s or below them how do you think a level 1 would fare against someone like her? They'd die, the same way they'd die a cruel death against a level 5.

Anyway I'm too tired for this shit and arguing about it any further will go nowhere because you can't accept the simple reality that a level 1 simply can't (and never will) beat a level 5 even if they had dual traits they'd still still be sooooo far behind a level 5 even with that nifty advantage...even if you fudge the whole thing in the level 1's favor the lore and rules of the levels still favor the level 5 (yes, even with power negation).

Anyway ima go crash and watch some man vs food.
Well, we have some examples. Nyx catching Tiffany in her light form that's too fast for the MC. Clark's body with barely any power not being harmed by several shards sent by a C-Class monster while unconscious. The same shards killed several humans and Level 1s with only Alice surviving and yet she still was injured by them. C-Class encompasses Level 2 monsters while humanity can't beat anything above it without gear from HERO itself.

As for the power negation angle, no one but HERO owns suppression tech like that and they got it from harvesting a decently powerful monster, from what I remember. So I doubt any Level 1 or group of humans could get that themselves. The only other alternative is a 7th Spawn but they get one shot by the physical side of things, as seen with weakened Val running away from Nico and not even trying to fight. Even though he can nullify her power from targeting him.

Anyway, everyone here knows my thoughts on the level gap between Level 2 and 3 alone so my response to Level 5 losing to a Level 1 needs no saying at all. Dual Traits only start to matter, in my opinion, when you cross into Level 3 since that's when you can start affecting all levels. MC got slaughtered so many times by Level 5/S-Rank in dead ends, it's not even funny. Clark, Ella, Malik, Aglaecwif, and Nico have all killed the Level 2 MC with no effort on their part.
 

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No worries, I get you. Some days, stuff like Shades of Violet or Cemetery Cowboy(both by Vestron Vulture) does the trick for me and other days stuff along the line of "Hurt" by Maruex works. I don't really know why but my musical taste leaned towards these more as I got older. I guess they ease my mind and let it wander easier than others. I actually don't even play this game with too much upbeat music because it's hard to concentrate on my thoughts and the dialogue of the game. Most of the music WW chose is fine but I tend to lower it while playing. I only use my own playlist after the 1st playthrough of an update.


Well, we have some examples. Nyx catching Tiffany in her light form that's too fast for the MC. Clark's body with barely any power not being harmed by several shards sent by a C-Class monster while unconscious. The same shards killed several humans and Level 1s with only Alice surviving and yet she still was injured by them. C-Class encompasses Level 2 monsters while humanity can't beat anything above it without gear from HERO itself.

As for the power negation angle, no one but HERO owns suppression tech like that and they got it from harvesting a decently powerful monster, from what I remember. So I doubt any Level 1 or group of humans could get that themselves. The only other alternative is a 7th Spawn but they get one shot by the physical side of things, as seen with weakened Val running away from Nico and not even trying to fight. Even though he can nullify her power from targeting him.

Anyway, everyone here knows my thoughts on the level gap between Level 2 and 3 alone so my response to Level 5 losing to a Level 1 needs no saying at all. Dual Traits only start to matter, in my opinion, when you cross into Level 3 since that's when you can start affecting all levels. MC got slaughtered so many times by Level 5/S-Rank in dead ends, it's not even funny. Clark, Ella, Malik, Aglaecwif, and Nico have all killed the Level 2 MC with no effort on their part.
Very good post brave sir knight.
 

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No worries, I get you. Some days, stuff like Shades of Violet or Cemetery Cowboy(both by Vestron Vulture) does the trick for me and other days stuff along the line of "Hurt" by Maruex works. I don't really know why but my musical taste leaned towards these more as I got older. I guess they ease my mind and let it wander easier than others. I actually don't even play this game with too much upbeat music because it's hard to concentrate on my thoughts and the dialogue of the game. Most of the music WW chose is fine but I tend to lower it while playing. I only use my own playlist after the 1st playthrough of an update.


Well, we have some examples. Nyx catching Tiffany in her light form that's too fast for the MC. Clark's body with barely any power not being harmed by several shards sent by a C-Class monster while unconscious. The same shards killed several humans and Level 1s with only Alice surviving and yet she still was injured by them. C-Class encompasses Level 2 monsters while humanity can't beat anything above it without gear from HERO itself.

As for the power negation angle, no one but HERO owns suppression tech like that and they got it from harvesting a decently powerful monster, from what I remember. So I doubt any Level 1 or group of humans could get that themselves. The only other alternative is a 7th Spawn but they get one shot by the physical side of things, as seen with weakened Val running away from Nico and not even trying to fight. Even though he can nullify her power from targeting him.

Anyway, everyone here knows my thoughts on the level gap between Level 2 and 3 alone so my response to Level 5 losing to a Level 1 needs no saying at all. Dual Traits only start to matter, in my opinion, when you cross into Level 3 since that's when you can start affecting all levels. MC got slaughtered so many times by Level 5/S-Rank in dead ends, it's not even funny. Clark, Ella, Malik, Aglaecwif, and Nico have all killed the Level 2 MC with no effort on their part.
When does Malik kill Mc?
 

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In the first dead end of the game when you don't train and at the frat party if you eat Kenny and turn into a monster. In both, he casually incinerates the MC.
Do correct me if I'm wrong but you can still train (with every chance given up to the eat kenny part) and it still results in first dead end where Malik incinerates MC (if I'm right seems like consuming is the only deciding factor in that...although it could be a variant of that dead end?)
 
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In the first dead end of the game when you don't train and at the frat party if you eat Kenny and turn into a monster. In both, he casually incinerates the MC.
Also brother can you tell me why does Ella kill the mc when he reveals about his mind powers during the training scene?I wrote a big ass question so someone could tell me because I didn't get it why she did that.
 
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