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I didn't care about the lazy eye i believed it was an oopsie but now i think is like MC scars that ella had them pre rebirth XD and are part of her self image Lol
 
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MC vs Michael
Ima be real, I just don't see Michael winning against the MC simply because his power doesn't work against MC (or Alice I think) and by the Klaus fight MC already displayed some impressive shapeshifting like his eagle form and his gorilla fists.

So if it goes into a direct melee Michael is in trouble even more so if the MC decides to spam his tentacles (especially the jellyfish venom one).

The best strat for Michael is to get MC to waste a lot of energy but thats risky.
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Hmm now an Alice vs MC fight could be interesting but ima still hand it to MC mostly because of his nasty jellyfish venom tentacle.

That tentacle was amazing in 2 bad ends (the one with Klaus and the other against Ella) so just imagine MC using it against Alice, I think it'd be game over for her if MC decided to open up with that and wait for her to collapse and just end it with a well placed gorilla punch to the head.
Alice vs Michael
Hard for me to decide on this one...I think I'll hand it to Alice cause Michael's power won't be useful here even with all his training.

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MC wins, just flies away via eagle shapeshift while Michael and Alice stare dumbfounded and just fight each other.

MC returns after having rough sex with Shadow and defeats whoever is left standing...well that's how I'd do it.

But realistically MC would stay and fight cause that's just how he is...he'd still win but it'd be a tough fight especially if Michael and Alice have a tempt truce to deal with MC.

But I think ultimately even if they teamed up MC has a lot on his side like his armor and his tentacles but at the same time he'd have to pace himself cause his armor consumed a lot of his energy if I remember right.
The poison play and mobility are indeed game changers in some match ups. I'd add the fact that his tentacles are so hard to dodge. No matter how skilled Alice and Michael are, they can't reliably dodge so many attacks at once.

I have two objections.
One is using poison tentacles against Alice. These things aren't very tough, so it's possible that they won't even be able to pierce Alice's passive protection. In Klaus deadend his barrier weakens when he uses other abilities, so MC was able to connect, but Alice doesn't seem to have that problem unless she becomes exhausted. However she is prone to MC's piercing attacks and she has trouble connecting or even damaging him in a way that will take a heavy toll on his regeneration. MC is good at fixing what's broken, but he struggles when fixing what's lost.

Two is that Michael's power isn't exactly "useless" against Alice. I think that matchup is fairly even. He doesn't have any special resistance to her attacks and Alice is better suited for melee combat, but he is able to drain power from other superhumans, which is bad for Alice since her Graviton Bombs are very limited and exhausting, his body is more resilient to damage because his power empowers it, his melee attacks have an energy component so they can go through her protection, along with some lingering effects, and his "Ionized Red" attack is very wide so Alice won't be able to just deflect it.


Round 1: MC high diff
Round 2: Michael extreme diff
Round 3: Michael mid/high diff
Could you explain why you think Michael would have more trouble against Alice than against MC who can easily beat Alice, considering that Michael also favors fighting at melee like Alice.


PS. Hey mods, if you are deleting offtopic posts, there are enough to always keep the thread on page 666. Don't delete too many at once.
 
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The mods HAVE to be on some shit man. How many off topic things have we done in this thread already? And not all, but ONE post (I don't even know which one) was removed.

Anyway how y'all doin today? I got Cyber Love slaps inbound while we await the update of blue balls (there random ass mod, on topic).
 

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They are going full winddiva fear will keep them in line guess what ?XD we were never in line.
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Well syther you got your war not a waifu one but a war anyway XD
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A war for our right of being a weird thread not the most weird thread but the less toxic one.

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Sure we had a mod change :cautious: and the new one is being a Lauren XD
 

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Could you explain why you think Michael would have more trouble against Alice than against MC who can easily beat Alice, considering that Michael also favors fighting at melee like Alice.
I didn't say Michael would have more trouble with Alice, I said he would have a lot less trouble

Extreme diff>High diff>Mid diff>Low diff
 

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They finna catch these hands if they don't stop being an unpaid hall monitor and chillax with these SLAPS~

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Of course she knows but she went the modern feminist route XD now she has no puppy :confused:
 
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I didn't say Michael would have more trouble with Alice, I said he would have a lot less trouble

Extreme diff>High diff>Mid diff>Low diff
Oh, I thought diff meant difference. Ok I get it now.
 

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For a while I thought Charlie was MC's younger sister that he doesn't remember (also explains why the shopkeep keeps calling him Charlie) for some reason but apparently her brother is locked up inside the HERO base and being kept alive as a lab rat or something? So that theory's dead in the water.

Another theory I have is MC's mom was either a monster or a superhuman as well (who happened to be fertile) and that's why mc is super compatible with the powers or something.
 

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Choose any matchup between them and analyze it.
MC vs Alice
MC vs Michael
Alice vs Michael
Honestly, on an even playing field like that, I don't think MC wins against either of those 2. Alice got wins on MC even while on lower power. As for Michael...shouln't radiation be very effective against the mc? Same with acide and fire, radiation should give him a lot of damage on molecular level, plus, as the mc's power is focused on his spine, radiation is know to turn bone to mush. The way I see it, alice owns mc in a level playing field, while betwen Michael and mc it would come down to who runs out of energy/mass first. Physical powe the 2 guys should be about the same...
Betwen Alice and Michael....idk, they kind of know too well how the other fights, and I can't say how theyr powers go against the other. I guess, based on your set stats, that Alice knows her own powers better then Michael, so she might have an advantage.
Ps: I think the MC's power is actually quite unimpresive compared to...almost anyone elses (exept Tiffany, I am not really impresed by her power). He has 2 aces up his sleve: hard to kill and (very fucking) fast adaptability/evolution/learning while also having a really bad kryptonite, electricity (good thing almost no1 knows that). (I don't bring up mind control cause he only used it in stealth missions with average joes, never saw it in a fighting scenario....well, maybe exept the big miniak, but that was pacifying a monster, don't know if he has power yet to dominate an equal, like Jake did).
...man, Jake really felt like our worst nightmare. That guy came from nowhere, dominated the sector and ALMOST brainwashed US, the OTHER guy with mind powers! Oh yeah, didn't he had control over the red haired for a bit? that bitch was lvl 5 and he was 2!, only 2!!!
Fuck Michael and Alice, who would win betwen Jake with the settup he had when WE fought him, against any other superhuman alone (excluding the generals and Deus).
 
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Honestly, on an even playing field like that, I don't think MC wins against either of those 2. Alice got wins on MC even while on lower power. As for Michael...shouln't radiation be very effective against the mc? Same with acide and fire, radiation should give him a lot of damage on molecular level, plus, as the mc's power is focused on his spine, radiation is know to turn bone to mush. The way I see it, alice owns mc in a level playing field, while betwen Michael and mc it would come down to who runs out of energy/mass first. Physical powe the 2 guys should be about the same...
Betwen Alice and Michael....idk, they kind of know too well how the other fights, and I can't say how theyr powers go against the other. I guess, based on your set stats, that Alice knows her own powers better then Michael, so she might have an advantage.
Ps: I think the MC's power is actually quite unimpresive compared to...almost anyone elses (exept Tiffany, I am not really impresed by her power). He has 2 aces up his sleve: hard to kill and (very fucking) fast adaptability/evolution/learning while also having a really bad kryptonite, electricity (good thing almost no1 knows that). (I don't bring up mind control cause he only used it in stealth missions with average joes, never saw it in a fighting scenario....well, maybe exept the big miniak, but that was pacifying a monster, don't know if he has power yet to dominate an equal, like Jake did).
...man, Jake really felt like our worst nightmare. That guy came from nowhere, dominated the sector and ALMOST brainwashed US, the OTHER guy with mind powers! Oh yeah, didn't he had control over the red haired for a bit? that bitch was lvl 5 and he was 2!, only 2!!!
Fuck Michael and Alice, who would win betwen Jake with the settup he had when WE fought him, against any other superhuman alone (excluding the generals and Deus).
I agree that at face value, both of them look "stronger" than MC. But it's important to remember that MC has regeneration, while the others don't. A single piercing attack to a weak spot will kill Alice and Michael while they have to take a huge chunk out of him to threaten his life.

Alice's Graviton Orb is capable of blowing him to pieces. Michael's Ionized Red is also capable of completely annihilating him. But one is extremely slow to cast and leaves Alice open, and the other one is limited and messes with Michael's ability to empower his body.

Also considering that MC fights at a distance, it's quite easy to just avoid them while keeping up the pressure. So while both of them need their heavy attack to kill him, all MC needs is a piercing tentacle through a weak spot. And he has multiple of them.

Example: Klaus' ring pretty much 1 shots MC. In the 2 times he managed to cast it, we got a deadend. In one that he missed his attempts because MC dodged it, he lost and had to use the drug.
 

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They are going full winddiva fear will keep them in line guess what ?XD we were never in line.
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After allllll the off topic shit we have done...like what made them step in? My STD and military grade propaganda are still up.
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I agree that at face value, both of them look "stronger" than MC. But it's important to remember that MC has regeneration, while the others don't. A single piercing attack to a weak spot will kill Alice and Michael while they have to take a huge chunk out of them to threaten his life.

Alice's Graviton Orb is capable of blowing him to pieces. Michael's Ionized Red is also capable of completely annihilating him. But one is extremely slow to cast and leaves Alice open, and the other one is limited and messes with Michael's ability to empower his body.

Also considering that MC fights at a distance, it's quite easy to just avoid them.

Example: Klaus' ring pretty much 1 shots MC. In the 2 times he managed to cast it, we got a deadend. In one that he missed his attempts because MC dodged it, he lost and had to use the drug.
Yeah, but I am taking into account the raw fighting experience those 2 have. Plus, Alice has great agility while I am pretty sure Michael can tank some hits, or at least trade fatal ones for non fatal ones, while retaliating right away. I just don't see those 2 make dumb slipups against our guy, otherwise I would agree with you. (Edit: forgot we were actually winning against Klaus for a while).
 
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Yeah, but I am taking into account the raw fighting experience those 2 have. Plus, Alice has great agility while I am pretty sure Michael can tank some hits, or at least trade fatal ones for non fatal ones, while retaliating right away. I just don't see those 2 make dumb slipups against our guy, otherwise I would agree with you (btw with Klaus, I dont think we would have ever won against him if we did not evolv there and then, we only won cause we masively overpowered him using our evolution state, otherwise, he was the perfect match against us...Funny, Michael would have been a good match against him, just eat up his energy).
Eh, in the heat of battle no matter who you are a slip up can happen especially against someone who can transform at will.

The MC can play it entirely at range if he wanted via his Eagle form and launch barrages of attacks from there, no matter how agile Alice is she's not faster than MC in that form and while Michael can tank some hits all it takes is a few lethal hits mixed in with all the others to end him (Jellyfish venom), it worked on Ella (although it didnt kill her) and it worked on Klaus too in a dead end.

Now lets just pretend up a scenario where the MC doesn't evolve during Klaus fight and he still has some energy left.

Well, I see it still in MC's favor, we saw him use the venom tentacle in a dead end so he could just use it again and mind you the only reason it dead ended was cause Klaus had his goons kill MC, I think Alice was either dead or completely unable to help at that time (if we are talkin bout MC vs Klaus around the time all the goons are dead due to MC goin full on hatred I think MC has an amazing chance).

I recall in that dead end Klaus didn't have enough time to even use his serum due to the effects of the venom so it works out great for MC if he uses that tentacle before he even pulls it out.

So with Venom tentacle and Alice as backup I see MC winning it even more so if Michael (albeit a human) shows up too.
 

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Yeah, but I am taking into account the raw fighting experience those 2 have. Plus, Alice has great agility while I am pretty sure Michael can tank some hits, or at least trade fatal ones for non fatal ones, while retaliating right away. I just don't see those 2 make dumb slipups against our guy, otherwise I would agree with you (btw with Klaus, I dont think we would have ever won against him if we did not evolv there and then, we only won cause we masively overpowered him using our evolution state, otherwise, he was the perfect match against us...Funny, Michael would have been a good match against him, just eat up his energy).
Well yes, they can avoid attacks (multiple ones) and trade very well, but how are they going to close the distance to trade blows? Level 1 MC doesn't fight in melee, it's all about tentacles. Only against Klaus he found a way to get deadly in melee and that's because of Klaus' barrier. Both Michael and Alice are melee specialists with a ranged option, at least as level 1, because past that, both of them get really heavy with the ranged attacks.

I'm not sure why so many people claim this about MC vs Klaus. Klaus got a huge power up because he monsterified artificially. He was on the death's door before taking the drug because MC beat the shit out of him with gorilla arms and other forms that punched through his barrier.

Even in one of the deadends he would probably die if it wasn't for the drug.
 

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Well yes, they can avoid attacks (multiple ones) and trade very well, but how are they going to close the distance to trade blows? Level 1 MC doesn't fight in melee, it's all about tentacles. Only against Klaus he found a way to get deadly in melee and that's because of Klaus' barrier. Both Michael and Alice are melee specialists with a ranged option, at least as level 1, because past that, both of them get really heavy with the ranged attacks.

I'm not sure why so many people claim this about MC vs Klaus. Klaus got a huge power up because he monsterified artificially. He was on the death's door before taking the drug because MC beat the shit out of him with gorilla arms and other forms that punched through his barrier.

Even in one of the deadends he would probably die if it wasn't for the drug.
THIS. I remember the fucking fright Klaus had when seeing MC beginning to evolve he was begging Alice to help him kill evolvin MC which obviously she didn't do. This means Klaus lacked the strength to do it alone.

Mind you, Klaus says something...he said he saw this happen before which implies he has killed Superhuman who were in the process of evolving and I'll assume he did this alone without Danica or Oscar helping which means he was too exhausted to do it by himself (hence him needing Alice).
 
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