VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.986] [WeirdWorld]

[kibaris]

Good points.
Although... it might be because being there makes it easier and she has to resurrect such a sheer quantity of people that she needs the cost savings from being there.

it could be, but when she resurrect people, she usualy have their body like with Duncan when he failed to evolve or even now in Hero base when she burned him and resurrected him, their also is the gorgon mission when the operation officer said that she cant turn stone to flesh again, And when mc devoured Christie during a dead end, it seems like she couldn be restored (even if it's not Nyx that marked Christie but her monster parent).
Of course none of that is irefutable proof, but they still let us think that she need at least something to work to, (even for Ella her body is still in Hero base and no doubt that she will return at some point)

Edit, for Nyx going to Ella it's unlikely because that scene is close to the begining of Diamond battle and they dont know where she is at that point, also Nico who left after Nyx is there before Nyx,who appears only much later after Nico could fight Ella (and we even see Nyx with Duncan (a member of her team) to save Laurie from a monster after that she was 'send in')

 

[kibaris]

I've been thinking about these dream sequences and i have revised my judgment about whom could appear

We can see that 1 to 6 are either direct spawn of apostle (like Jake Michael and Ella) , directly a chosen (Syla) or spawn of a Chosen ( Alice)
Only Claudia doesnt fit that patern but we know that HERO collect avatar from apostle so it's not impossible.

For 7 to 12 it's almost certain that 8th and 12 will be Tiffany and Deryl (avatar from 8th and Rebis spawn)
are left

7- could be Valravn, Sylla talk about fierce Ennemy and he definitly fit and also are a chosen

9- Elijah is a spawn of a monster from Eiseth lineage and Eiseth said that he could call him mother , so maybe he could have inerited a pure trait

I also had a theory about Christie who would be turned into a superhuman one whay or another and inherit a non fighting power like seeing in the future maybe? (because so far all power like that are monopolized by HERO) and also close to mc.
She was obsessed with the truth about Ella's past and had a bigger role in the latest update ( she helped a lot with Ellla's doll)
And she is a very sexual character like Eiseth from 9th and since WW surprised us with Claudia whom isnt a superhuman yet it could be a possibility.

10- the one I'm the least certain about,only two character have fiting power, Demi, but it dont look that she will have a big role in the story and her power look more like a mix between autority and 10, also we can see the monster that turned her and since he isnt a chosen, he would have to be an apostle (but it's unlikely because of that memories mc had during is first evolution)

the other with a fiting power is Shen, we dont know is monster parent and he tried to kidnap Liz and Amber and maintain mc in that dream + they fighted a little so it could be enough since mc was wrongly thinking about Deus in dream about time, but that cult dont seem to acknowledge him like they do with Devana and Evander so it doesnt look like it but he still a good possibility.

Like Claudia or my theory about Christie for 5 and 9 it could also be someone who isnt a superhuman yet and we definitly have some teasing about Emily inerhiting one trait, and if it isnt 7 it could be 10 but i dont have more argument here and it would be through an apostle avatar from HERO maybe since they collect them.

11- Evander would be the best fit , he seem to be a direct spawn of and apostle or is dead avatar from what that cult said and he have a link with mc through their fight and he also tried to kidnap Liz and Amber.

edit : And if i'm wrong about all of them being apostle spawn, chosen or chosen spawn.

Maybe Nyx could be a good option for 7th, with how she handle Michael and Tiffany during their evolution, Henri could be a good option for 9 since he seem to be capable rewrite reality (and it could explain why it's so dangerous to be around him ) , and Lisa ask him to stop fucking with her library's sign" so it's seem like the change is real , and Danica for 11th have a fiting power and fought and can bond a little with mc during a hunt.

 

[KingAgamemnon]

I've been thinking about these dream sequences and i have revised my judgment about whom could appear

We can see that 1 to 6 are either direct spawn of apostle (like Jake Michael and Ella) , directly a chosen (Syla) or spawn of a Chosen ( Alice)
Only Claudia doesnt fit that patern but we know that HERO collect avatar from apostle so it's not impossible.

For 7 to 12 it's almost certain that 8th and 12 will be Tiffany and Deryl (avatar from 8th and Rebis spawn)
are left

7- could be Valravn, Sylla talk about fierce Ennemy and he definitly fit and also are a chosen

9- Elijah is a spawn of a monster from Eiseth lineage and Eiseth said that he could call him mother , so maybe he could have inerited a pure trait

I also had a theory about Christie who would be turned into a superhuman one whay or another and inherit a non fighting power like seeing in the future maybe? (because so far all power like that are monopolized by HERO) and also close to mc.
She was obsessed with the truth about Ella's past and had a bigger role in the latest update ( she helped a lot with Ellla's doll)
And she is a very sexual character like Eiseth from 9th and since WW surprised us with Claudia whom isnt a superhuman yet it could be a possibility.

10- the one I'm the least certain about,only two character have fiting power, Demi, but it dont look that she will have a big role in the story and her power look more like a mix between autority and 10, also we can see the monster that turned her and since he isnt a chosen, he would have to be an apostle (but it's unlikely because of that memories mc had during is first evolution)

the other with a fiting power is Shen, we dont know is monster parent and he tried to kidnap Liz and Amber and maintain mc in that dream + they fighted a little so it could be enough since mc was wrongly thinking about Deus in dream about time, but that cult dont seem to acknowledge him like they do with Devana and Evander so it doesnt look like it but he still a good possibility.

Like Claudia or my theory about Christie for 5 and 9 it could also be someone who isnt a superhuman yet and we definitly have some teasing about Emily inerhiting one trait, and if it isnt 7 it could be 10 but i dont have more argument here and it would be through an apostle avatar from HERO maybe since they collect them.

11- Evander would be the best fit , he seem to be a direct spawn of and apostle or is dead avatar from what that cult said and he have a link with mc through their fight and he also tried to kidnap Liz and Amber.

edit : And if i'm wrong about all of them being apostle spawn, chosen or chosen spawn.

Maybe Nyx could be a good option for 7th, with how she handle Michael and Tiffany during their evolution, Henri could be a good option for 9 since he seem to be capable rewrite reality (and it could explain why it's so dangerous to be around him ) , and Lisa ask him to stop fucking with her library's sign" so it's seem like the change is real , and Danica for 11th have a fiting power and fought and can bond a little with mc during a hunt.

But we already saw Nyx through the sensations we felt in between the dreams, so it would be weird for her to show up again

 

[kibaris]

But we already saw Nyx through the sensations we felt in between the dreams, so it would be weird for her to show up again

same can be said about Syla , yet she appear for memory and in the anomaly in mc memories (because the one that locked mc memories is likely Syla, also Nyx said this " Visit me here again some times and we'll see. I'll admit... it does get lonely here some night...", so if i'm wrong about what i said in my other post, she could still be a possibility .

 

[Gtdead]

But we already saw Nyx through the sensations we felt in between the dreams, so it would be weird for her to show up again

Nyx and Bailey pretty much invite MC to come back again. So the possibility exists to see them again in the next update and it seems to me that their content will be significant. Nyx's will probably be romantic but Bailey talks about another world and some oddities without any precedent. I'm very excited about Bailey's content, not necessarily due to her character, but she is a link to very interesting things.

I think it will depend a lot on how MC will experience his Memory powers from now on. Will his dreams start becoming more active in general, even after he returns to his normal routine?
If no then I expect to see them shortly.
If yes, then Nyx and Bailey may get a lot of content that way but it will probably come at a later time.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

I guess I'll chime in since I was catching up with the thread.

7th - Almost certainly Valravn unless WW uses this as an opportunity to show the 7th again. MC has got memories about the 7th, even when he never encountered it on that dead end. So this could be another Deus moment, since MC never actually used his memories on or connected to Deus yet he's there for the 5th Apostle stuff. There's also Nyx.

Then again, there's nothing that say Danica couldn't appear here actually. Her X mark the spot is undetectable and can rip through just about anything as long as she stares at it long enough. You can't even detect it unless she shows you first. She could definitely be a wild card for multiple apostle spots.

8th - Definitely Tiffany but could be Clark. They're both closely related so there's a chance MC sees both of them. Maybe Oscar as well. Slim chance for Dani.

9th - Eisheth since he saw her memories through her blood, which is unavoidable. It could be Henri or Elijah too.

10th - Shen is the most direct but if WW did change Aglaecwif's origin, this would be the likely candidate since she's still a Chosen of a single Apostle. Especially since she was previewed next to Shen and it wouldn't be too shocking if she actually turned him. Or, Demi, maybe.

11th - Plenty of options really. Nyx, Malik, Klaus, and Evander. Maybe Danica, though I doubt it as you can easily put her in Light or Darkness as well with her power, Cross Light. Klaus gets overlooked here, but his powers are actually pretty destructive. Not as potent as Evander but those two abilities function pretty much the same and MC actually could've did the same thing to Evander that he did to Klaus.

12th - Plenty as well. Devana, Deryl, Tanos, Rebis, Alexis and even Lucius. Deryl would actually be the boring pick here since we know about him already. I honestly don't think the dream sequence would be interesting like Alice, Michael or Ella were when we saw them. I could be wrong, but maybe Deryl isn't used here.

To be honest, I don't think we're going to even see the other six Apostles, personally. At least not via the dream. We'll probably learn about them when MC wakes up. The cult will likely spread their gospel to him like they did with Evander and Devana during the infiltration. Maybe even another Chosen, like Rebis or Aglaecwif, might encounter him. Rebis might find his birth interesting and want to compare him to his engineered creations. Aglaecwif is for obvious reasons.

That's just me though. Maybe WW just gets all of the introductions for the Apostles out of the way in the dreams now. I also could be wrong about who appears in what dream.

 

[KingAgamemnon]

Personally i think it would be a bit weird if we just got spoonfed everything all at once. I think the remaining six will be spread out over the next few arcs.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

I tend to agree. Majority of the cast powers originates from the first 6 Apostles so it's fine to get to see them all now. The other 6, while having a decent amount, are mostly stacked in a single line, the 12th and possibly even the 11th.

Until this update, the 1st - 6th had, with assumptions:

1. Jake (1st)
2. Minyak (1st and 3rd)
3. Kenny (1st and 3rd)
4. Michael (2nd)
5. Met (2nd)
6. Leigong (2nd)
7. Ella (3rd)
8. MC (4th or 3rd)
9. Aglaecwif (4th previously)
10. Sharon (4th)
11. M43 (4th)
12. Deus (5th)
13. Zack (5th)
14. Fairy (6th)
15. Alice (6th)
16. Nico (6th)
17. Hex (6th)

These characters and powers have been present majority of the game up until now. Now compare that to the 7th - 12th, excluding those we learned about this update or that are too ambiguous:

1. Valravn (7th)
2. Tiffany (8th)
3. Clark (8th)
4. Eisheth (9th)
5. Evander (11th)
6. Devana(12th)
7. Rebis (12th)
8. Deryl (12th)
9. Tanos (12th)
10. Lucius (12th)
11. Alexis (12th)

As you can see, it's about time we learned all there is about the first 6 Apostles with so many of their powers being thoroughly shown. Obviously, if we added up everyone from this update and speculated, we can get an almost even number on both sides. But, as you can see. Besides the 12th's line, we haven't seen much from the 7th, 9th and 10th lines. We have potentially seen plenty of the 11th's line but some of those characters could just as well slide to the 2nd's line. Same with the 12th's line potentially being of the 3rd's line.

That's ultimately why I don't believe we're going to get it all next update. There's plenty of powers to explore and have them build up to those Apostles. Whether that be through other characters or memories MC obtained like with the Chosen. There might be a tease with some of them, like the 12th, but I don't think we'll get them all and their original traits like that.

 

[Windfaker]

Meanwhile me,reading wall text of illuminaty posts about plot instead of waiting for next updates.

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[Omae wa shinda]

so where are we right now after hammering and saving a certain red hair?

 

[HarryDubois420]

This game might be the first one that made me skip past the sex scenes so that i can get to the actual juicy part: the story.

Is this normal anons?

Also when's the next update?

 

[TerminusPrime]

Personally i think it would be a bit weird if we just got spoonfed everything all at once. I think the remaining six will be spread out over the next few arcs.

MC's mom tells him that he's almost half way done before he does that 6th dream. He's going to connect to all 12 Arbiters before he can leave the dream.

 

[Dynamite69420]

is there a guide for the new update yet?

 

[Dynamite69420]

This game might be the first one that made me skip past the sex scenes so that i can get to the actual juicy part: the story.

Is this normal anons?

Also when's the next update?

probably next month or the one after

 

[hrhr]

We actually know why. There is a scene with Ella meeting up with Langdon, 5 days after MC kills Klaus.
It becomes clear that Ella traded her services for help with finding the black stone she lost during the fight with Alexis and Clark.
We also know that Jared is tasked with searching for the rest of them, which is probably why Ella was willing to work with Langdon indefinitely as he has the means and the will to do it.

Langdon already knew about monsters for a while, probably for more than a year. Xanthe was working with Dietz, who is a member of Langdon's cabal. It's how Klaus got his powers in the first place and bringing in Danica to train him probably meant that they already had their feet wet for more than that.

Based on what Langdon says during that meeting with Ella, it seems to me that Dietz was the one involved with the Monster side of the cabal's operations and losing the superhuman trio (Klaus, Danica and Oscar) was a huge dent to their plans. So Langdon decided to take matters into his own hands. He basically obliterated the Aldain syndicate, forced them all to turn into Superhumans with Ella's pills, without regard for their compatibility.

The kids themselves didn't even know they were part of SIN at first. Shen calls it "Cole's dumb assignment" during the Diamond Battle.
However SIN seems to have evolved in a sense, mainly because Tanos is heavily involved (who seems like a recent acquisition, I don't think he was there from the start). However we don't know his circumstances. The certain thing is that only under Tanos direction SIN has some legitimacy. The kids may be able to sway monsters like Hex and Goliath assuming that a stronger Superhuman can subdue them, but I doubt anyone there, including Ella, is capable of dealing with the Chosen.

Tanos is the son of a Chosen and has a good relationship with at least 2 of them.



I don't think she cares about the "invaders". Her plans involve the Apostles, a ritual and an extremely powerful Superhuman who ultimately will decide how this whole thing will play out. The question is what she wants to get out of it.

1) Ella can communicate with an Apostle. During her fifth evolution, Ella urges the Apostle to go back to sleep saying that she will take care of stuff.
2) The Apostle is most likely Memory. She is the only Apostle who actively wants a 50-50 Spawn, she is the one that Ella brings MC to during deadend3.

An interesting question is why Ella considered both Jake and MC adequate for her plans.
Does that mean that Memory does not care if the Spawn is of her own line?
Or does it mean that Ella wants to "hijack" whatever Memory wants to do and turn it to her advantage?

Considering the deadend3, I'm willing to bet that up till now, everything is part of Memory's plan. This plan mostly works for Ella, but she will probably have a contingency in place for the end.

Ah right, I had forgotten about the black stone bit. Still, if anything it reinforces my initial point about SIN being a byproduct of the orphanage's kids (Cole being one of them of course). Even if Langdon and Dietz already had something prior to their arrival, before Ella and the kids they were a joke.

 

[Gtdead]

Ah right, I had forgotten about the black stone bit. Still, if anything it reinforces my initial point about SIN being a byproduct of the orphanage's kids (Cole being one of them of course). Even if Langdon and Dietz already had something prior to their arrival, before Ella and the kids they were a joke.

In a broad sense sure, without the kids, SIN would be significantly weaker. But then again, what about Tanos and the Chosen? They aren't bound to the kids in any shape or form. Take them away and SIN are left with a Hexenringe, a few hundreds of level 1s and 2s, a handful of level 3s and a level 4. All of them combined barely have a chance against 2 HERO level 5 lieutenants.

 

[Rutonat]

Alright so, that update ending fucked me up.
I still feel queasy just thinking about it. Urh.
I certainly hope a certain "scientist" ends up reduced to mush by my actions. He certainly deserves it. If he survives the game, I'm gonna riot.

Didn't expect things to get that graphic. Straight up torture porn level.
Urh.

 

[Slimer69]

Alright so, that update ending fucked me up.

Don't worry, the dev said the next cliffhanger will be even worse.

 

[Vacillator]

Didn't expect things to get that graphic. Straight up torture porn level.
Urh.

lmao i hadnt even thought of that, you think thanos jr gets off on that kind of thing??

 

[RevyTwoHands87]

Alright so, that update ending fucked me up.
I still feel queasy just thinking about it. Urh.
I certainly hope a certain "scientist" ends up reduced to mush by my actions. He certainly deserves it. If he survives the game, I'm gonna riot.

Didn't expect things to get that graphic. Straight up torture porn level.
Urh.

Thanos is one of the S.I.N. bastards I want to kill Jared and Cole being some the ones as well among others