Ren'Py Completed SuperPowered [v0.45.02] [Night City Productions]

[Arlette Fourier]

Is it just me, or is there something wrong about the Logistics division... I can pay for upgrades with Logistics or Global influence, but the availability check seem to be made solely against Logistics. If I bring 750 Global, I can only use it to pay for level 3 School pay if I also have 300 Logistics, which then uselessly remains.

Also, the Logistics pay rank can only be raised to 1, then it says I don't meet the fame and influence requirement? Whether by grinding or even cheating to high levels of influence I can't seem to meet this requirement. Am I missing something else I need to do?

 

[sillyrobot]

Is it just me, or is there something wrong about the Logistics division... I can pay for upgrades with Logistics or Global influence, but the availability check seem to be made solely against Logistics. If I bring 750 Global, I can only use it to pay for level 3 School pay if I also have 300 Logistics, which then uselessly remains.

Also, the Logistics pay rank can only be raised to 1, then it says I don't meet the fame and influence requirement? Whether by grinding or even cheating to high levels of influence I can't seem to meet this requirement. Am I missing something else I need to do?

At one point, the check for Global influence was double what is should have been so you needed to arrive with 500 Global influence for it to acknowledge you could spend 250 to buy access to Teacher's Aide job, for example . This appeared fixed in my most recent playthrough. I checked by showing up with less than 500 and it let me buy the job. Perhaps the double-amount check remains for other aspects purchasable.

I haven't bothered with pay raises in quite a few versions. They don't pay for the time taken to go get the raise until you are at the point where cash no longer matters. I'll try to check today/tomorrow, but the holiday is distracting.

 

[Arlette Fourier]

With Sophie, am I supposed to be stuck on 87 Inhibition and 26 Corruption? After (13 sex scenes) x (-1, +2). At this point even with 100 Lust she only does blowjobs, not sex, and no longer gets stat changes.

I notice that if I turn on cheats and move Corruption from 26 to 30, sex and stat changes are back. Am I doing anything wrong, am I supposed to somehow bridge this gap from 26 to 30? Or do I just need to wait for more content.

 

[sillyrobot]

With Sophie, am I supposed to be stuck on 87 Inhibition and 26 Corruption? After (13 sex scenes) x (-1, +2). At this point even with 100 Lust she only does blowjobs, not sex, and no longer gets stat changes.

I notice that if I turn on cheats and move Corruption from 26 to 30, sex and stat changes are back. Am I doing anything wrong, am I supposed to somehow bridge this gap from 26 to 30? Or do I just need to wait for more content.

Weird, my playthrough had Sophie move from BJ to riding sex after a few sessions raised her Lust to about 60. She then switches between the 2 as her lust ebbs and flows (BJ raises it, sex lowers it).

Glancing at the code, (Love >= 80 and Lust >= 60) or corruption >= 30 gives sex

 

[Arlette Fourier]

Weird, my playthrough had Sophie move from BJ to riding sex after a few sessions raised her Lust to about 60. She then switches between the 2 as her lust ebbs and flows (BJ raises it, sex lowers it).

Glancing at the code, (Love >= 80 and Lust >= 60) or corruption >= 30 gives sex

I do have her at 100 lust and 100 love. I attached a savegame to the previous post, if that helps. You may have missed it because it was a later edit.

I think I remember this broke after I reached the 60 Lust threshold with a sext rather than through the blowjob cutscene. Could it be some variable got remembered that didn't reset?

But this can't be the whole story, because if I lower Corruption back from 26 to 24, sex happens again. Then it stops again at 26. There's got to be some Corruption>25 check that blocks this or something.

I haven't bothered with pay raises in quite a few versions. They don't pay for the time taken to go get the raise until you are at the point where cash no longer matters.

I find cash matters, but I'm not taking any money from girls because I'm doing a Good Person high alignment playthrough. For now.

 

[T.Geiger]

With Sophie, am I supposed to be stuck on 87 Inhibition and 26 Corruption? After (13 sex scenes) x (-1, +2). At this point even with 100 Lust she only does blowjobs, not sex, and no longer gets stat changes.

I notice that if I turn on cheats and move Corruption from 26 to 30, sex and stat changes are back. Am I doing anything wrong, am I supposed to somehow bridge this gap from 26 to 30? Or do I just need to wait for more content.

You are stuck if you're only going to your bed. Sophie only has two options to raise corruption there. Her Love is too high for the first, and the second is the scene you're trying to get to.

The blowjob check is:
elif (s.love>=80 and s.lust<60 and s.corruption<30) or (s.love<80 and s.corruption<30) or (s.corruption<30 and s.corruption>=25):
And you're falling into the bolded part of that clause that concerns middling corruption. I don't think this is meant to be a trap, so much as you're not expected to raise Love so much more quickly than Corruption.

You're going to have to play around with Sophie and Mom in the dining room if you want to raise her corruption to the next threshold at 30.

 

[Arlette Fourier]

The blowjob check is:
elif (s.love>=80 and s.lust<60 and s.corruption<30) or (s.love<80 and s.corruption<30) or (s.corruption<30 and s.corruption>=25):
And you're falling into the bolded part of that clause that concerns middling corruption. I don't think this is meant to be a trap, so much as you're not expected to raise Love so much more quickly than Corruption.

Oh, I see. Then yes, I would argue it's a trap, because you get her phone number early, and then it's trivial to max her love, and you have no reason not to. I don't understand the intended logic, either: when she's less corrupted she'll ride you, but by raising corruption she becomes more reticent?

I'm not even complaining in terms of the story so far, since maybe it's okay that things wouldn't be taken too far with such a Good Guy Billy involved as the one I've been playing. But if I were to later have Billy turn into an evil sex maniac, once power goes to his head, there doesn't seem to be a way to reverse this situation. I can't lower love, and I can't seem to increase corruption.

You're going to have to play around with Sophie and Mom in the dining room if you want to raise her corruption to the next threshold at 30.

Do you mean the options to do things to them in their sleep? Even if lower alignment so that these options appear, this doesn't seem to raise anyone's corruption, but maybe I'm doing something wrong.

 

[Arlette Fourier]

elif (s.love>=80 and s.lust<60 and s.corruption<30) or (s.love<80 and s.corruption<30) or (s.corruption<30 and s.corruption>=25):
And you're falling into the bolded part of that clause that concerns middling corruption. I don't think this is meant to be a trap, so much as you're not expected to raise Love so much more quickly than Corruption.

Wait a minute, I just read that again. It doesn't matter what her Love stat is. It doesn't matter if I raised it quickly or left it alone. Since these conditions are all connected by "or", the trap will always activate at 26 corruption, no?

 

[sillyrobot]

Oh, I see. Then yes, I would argue it's a trap, because you get her phone number early, and then it's trivial to max her love, and you have no reason not to. I don't understand the intended logic, either: when she's less corrupted she'll ride you, but by raising corruption she becomes more reticent?

I'm not even complaining in terms of the story so far, since maybe it's okay that things wouldn't be taken too far with such a Good Guy Billy involved as the one I've been playing. But if I were to later have Billy turn into an evil sex maniac, once power goes to his head, there doesn't seem to be a way to reverse this situation. I can't lower love, and I can't seem to increase corruption.


Do you mean the options to do things to them in their sleep? Even if lower alignment so that these options appear, this doesn't seem to raise anyone's corruption, but maybe I'm doing something wrong.

How, exactly, are you getting Sophie's phone #? That sounds like a mod.

 

[Arlette Fourier]

How, exactly, are you getting Sophie's phone #? That sounds like a mod.

I play with Radioactive. I didn't know you couldn't get her phone number without it.

However, I did finally figure out how to read the code, and yes, it's the same in radioactive and vanilla: the (s.corruption<30 and s.corruption>=25) condition is connected with the others with "or", which means the blowjob will always trap you regardless of Love.

If I'm reading the code right, the only way to go past this is to have mom be obsessive?

 

[sillyrobot]

I play with Radioactive. I didn't know you couldn't get her phone number without it.

However, I did finally figure out how to read the code, and yes, it's the same in radioactive and vanilla: the (s.corruption<30 and s.corruption>=25) condition is connected with the others with "or", which means the blowjob will always trap you regardless of Love.

If I'm reading the code right, the only way to go past this is to have mom be obsessive?

Can't be. I get by it all the time. I'll take a look at the logic in a while.

 

[sillyrobot]

I play with Radioactive. I didn't know you couldn't get her phone number without it.

However, I did finally figure out how to read the code, and yes, it's the same in radioactive and vanilla: the (s.corruption<30 and s.corruption>=25) condition is connected with the others with "or", which means the blowjob will always trap you regardless of Love.

If I'm reading the code right, the only way to go past this is to have mom be obsessive?

I see how I get by -- her Corruption starts very low and bj/sex won't raise it past 25.

 

[T.Geiger]

I play with Radioactive. I didn't know you couldn't get her phone number without it.

However, I did finally figure out how to read the code, and yes, it's the same in radioactive and vanilla: the (s.corruption<30 and s.corruption>=25) condition is connected with the others with "or", which means the blowjob will always trap you regardless of Love.

If I'm reading the code right, the only way to go past this is to have mom be obsessive?

Considering using a feature in the mod kind of screwed you over, you could just change her Corruption value to be outside the range so you can continue on. If you want Sophie to be corrupted, make it 30. If you want Sophie to be in love with Billy, make it 24.

While that clause will trap you, it really isn't intended as such. The <30 part is a part of every clause and is intended as the upper threshold before you'll always qualify for sex based on Corruption alone. The >=25 part is likewise intended to be the lower threshold before you'll always qualify for a blowjob based on Corruption alone.

To get the dining room scenes, Mom will have to be obsessive.

 

[Arlette Fourier]

using a feature in the mod kind of screwed you over

Why do you keep saying this? I thought I already addressed this. Several times. The check traps me regardless of love stat, so having her phone number didn't matter in the end.

Edited to add: I did a quick run on a fresh install (with a fresh persisent and everything), until I started getting the sex scenes. After a few of those I put in a mod so I could check her stats: her Love was maxed and Favor was not far behind. I don't have the patience to go through this all the way to Corruption=26 for the sake of testing, because of having to wait for lust to build up and to savescum to get the event in the first place. But the theory that I built up Love too fast is bunk.

 

[Arlette Fourier]

I see how I get by

What do you mean?

 

[sillyrobot]

What do you mean?

As I stated: I always get though the BJ to bedroom sex with Sophie then settle into an alternating pattern. You only get trapped when Corruption rises past 25 -- which it won't just having bedroom bj/sex.

You only enter the trappable zone if you have insane encounters with the pair and get Corruption 26+ and then don't raise Corruption to 30+.

 

[Arlette Fourier]

You only enter the trappable zone if you have insane encounters with the pair and get Corruption 26+ and then don't raise Corruption to 30+.

I never had insane encounters and got trapped. Perhaps the difference is that without GetLucky, and without sexting, the cycle reaching 26 corruption takes insanely long and vanilla players just don't reach it.

As I stated: I always get though the BJ to bedroom sex with Sophie then settle into an alternating pattern. You only get trapped when Corruption rises past 25 -- which it won't just having bedroom bj/sex.

This might be the crux of the misunderstanding. Why wouldn't corruption rise to 26 with the alternating sex/bj cycle? I'm reading char_Sophie.rpy, and the check in the sex scene in sophie_drunk3 is if s.corruption<50:.

(There are some if s.corruption<20: checks, which is what you might be thinking about, but they are in sophie_drunk2, which is the obsessive mom stuff, unrelated.)

I don't quite see the point of the trap code. If (s.corruption<30 and s.corruption>=25) were removed, Corruption would still cap (at 50) with only the bedroom stuff - wouldn't that be fine? It seems excessive to require giving your mom a mental illness to reach the relatively tame shower scene, for which the corruption threshold is a mere 35.

 

[sillyrobot]

I never had insane encounters and got trapped.

This might be the crux of the misunderstanding. Why wouldn't corruption rise to 26 with the alternating sex/bj cycle? I'm reading char_Sophie.rpy, and the check in the sex scene in sophie_drunk3 is if s.corruption<50:.

There are some if s.corruption<20: checks, which is what you might be thinking about, but they are in sophie_drunk2, which is the obsessive mom stuff, unrelated.

Perhaps it's simply that in the unmodified game, without GetLucky to ensure event occurance, and without the option of sexting to recover Lust faster, it takes forever to get to Corruption 26. So it feels like you don't get trapped because you never get tha far?

My current game in late May, Sophie hit 8 Corruption. I used her to get 60+ alignment too.

Because the relevant BJ section of sophie_drunk3 doesn't have a corruption increase and I'd have to hit the sex section 10 times more to crack 26 and at one sex scene in about 4 interactions, that'd take about 3 months if I forced Sophie to appear twice a week -- which I don't once I hit 60+ alignment. Without forcing and assuming I attend every time Sophie does come home, it'd probably take a year or so for the Corruption to get problematic and I'd only realize the problem 3 months later when I was due for another sex romp and it doesn't appear.

Basically, yes, it's a bug that will eventually cause some trouble and require either the console or driving mom insane for a while to work through. Someday. When there's enough content to care -- assuming you still see Sophie and mom in a year and no other Sophie content gets added. (I think she's going to work at the coffeeshop).

Frankly, I'd much prefer if the bugs plaguing the NCHDL missions that cause trouble leading to Pixie got attention.

 

[Arlette Fourier]

Well, now that I understand that rpy files take priority, it's trivial for me to edit it myself. Still, I do think this is a slight mis-design worth fixing in the game itself.

Thanks for the responses, guys.

 

[the Morrigan]

So I bothered to test it out instead of just reading the code. Looks like I'm reading it incorrectly, as the Sex Bot status shows up in both the Mindcraft screen and the phone menu a week plus later on Steph, and a month plus later on Mom (though she was done slightly less legitimately).

Well, if it takes that long I probably just got impatient. I'll wait at LEAST a week on my next run-through ... and I probably won't bother trying to Sexbot Mom or Stephanie, since I can mostly get what I want from them just by suppressing Family Ties.

I don't discuss sexbots at all in my walkthrough. Like much of the game (and this is not a criticism) it isn't strongly relevant to direct game play. Superpowered has a lot of colour / fun bits that help ameliorate the grind of resource gathering. One can develop tactics to use some of them, but they generally are less effective than fun.

I've been using khumak's walkthrough, which does mention Sexbots and, in fact, recommends turning just about everybody into one. And of course it's mostly color and fun. But if I'm going to be an evil, incestuous bastard (and I am, no matter what my Alignment number says ...) then I want to be an evil, incestuous bastard who's making a lot of money off his Sexbot slaves and doesn't need to keep seducing them over and over again every time we have sex.