VN Ren'Py Abandoned Sweet Dreamz [v1.5] [Badass Inc]

[rKnight]

A loving father that lost his daughter, brings out the monster inside him.

Woman: "Ew, Did you just get a boner... Can't you control that thing?"
MC: "I do not command it, I'm simply its HUMBLE GUIDE."




EDIT:
Heavily inspired by "Inside Jennifer"? Really? I'm on to you, citizen, lol

 

[FAP369ZONE]

This master piece, combines the best of both games
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[Gleemer]

Here is the Italian translation

of Sweet Dreamz [v1.5]

This translation is "unofficial, it was created by a fan.


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Ecco la traduzione italiana

di un fan Sweet Dreamz [v1.5]

Questa traduzione "non è ufficiale" è stata generata da un fan.

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[KissKissStudio]

Lol, this guy stolen my shitty render

 

[MissFortune]

It leaves a bit of bad taste using the renders from other creators/games and then monetize it. Can't really do the holier than thou on someone when they pirate on a site dedicated to piracy though.

Piracy is piracy and theft is theft, they're two different things. Everyone downloads and patches Adobe software, seeing as they care more about the billions, they make annually via subscription from big companies than regular people. Stealing anyone's art, regardless of it being 'premade assets from a store that you click and render' (obviously not true, but many seem to be under that impression about Daz.) or not, is still theft. He isn't downloading a program, he's stealing other people's artwork and claiming it as his own.

 

[LSC82]

The character model is the same as in the game Inside Jennifer

That would be the least of it's problems, similar models appearing in new games is nothing new, the Carli from Depraved Awakening is everywhere, the niece from Babysitters... similar face different hair i don't even count anymore.

This one however... he takes full renders from other games, "Inside Jennifer" is one, and places in his game.

 

[Joshua Tree]

Piracy is piracy and theft is theft, they're two different things. Everyone downloads and patches Adobe software, seeing as they care more about the billions, they make annually via subscription from big companies than regular people. Stealing anyone's art, regardless of it being 'premade assets from a store that you click and render' (obviously not true, but many seem to be under that impression about Daz.) or not, is still theft. He isn't downloading a program, he's stealing other people's artwork and claiming it as his own.

And when you pirate the same dudes work... that isn't theft? You not stealing his work to entertain yourself? Sure, its two different things, but both criminal... So to try take a morale high ground is pointless.

I think what he is doing is dumb, because end of the day he just repackage what people seen before. And unless he can wrap a incredible story around it (which I doubt), the end result is like watching reruns of old commercials.... as a creator he shooting himself in the foot.

 

[Skeltom]

Piracy is piracy and theft is theft, they're two different things. Everyone downloads and patches Adobe software, seeing as they care more about the billions, they make annually via subscription from big companies than regular people. Stealing anyone's art, regardless of it being 'premade assets from a store that you click and render' (obviously not true, but many seem to be under that impression about Daz.) or not, is still theft. He isn't downloading a program, he's stealing other people's artwork and claiming it as his own.

To be fair they "give credit" to the other games on the itch.io page but it is still very shady. They are trying to make money off of others work. Everyone knows the most time consuming and labor intensive part of an AVN especially using Daz is the renders. They are only doing the writing, poorly in my opinion, and getting a free worker from whatever game they decide to unren next. If anything it's much closer to plagiarism than piracy.

 

[Joshua Tree]

To be fair they "give credit" to the other games on the itch.io page but it is still very shady. They are trying to make money off of others work. Everyone knows the most time consuming and labor intensive part of an AVN especially using Daz is the renders. They are only doing the writing, poorly in my opinion, and getting a free worker from whatever game they decide to unren next. If anything it's much closer to plagiarism than piracy.

There is worse out there. There is those that just steal the entire thing and rewrap it as their own work and put it up for sale on websites.. with no credit given to original creators what so ever. Which happens because very few if any at all of these creators want to pursue legal actions, as that is a costly process.

 

[Conviction07]

Hmm... Now where have I seen the character on the front page before?

 

[MissFortune]

And when you pirate the same dudes work... that isn't theft? You not stealing his work to entertain yourself? Sure, its two different things, but both criminal... So to try take a morale high ground is pointless

I'm all for piracy. Hence why I upload my own VN here for free a week after anyone who financially supports the project has gotten it. Fuck Adobe and their subscription services. Same goes for anything of that sort. But I do have a problem with people who consciously steal shit, make a profit from something they didn't make, and then advertise it as their own intellectual property. Hiding and/or putting attribution to the original games in small print just as grimy. He could've just as easily put it in the overview/summary.

I'm not taking any ground, just calling it what it is. Once again - Piracy and theft/plagiarism are two different things, and legally, are treated as such. The reality is that an overwhelming majority of developers willingly upload their VN/game/projects here as the sheer size of F95's userbase allows them to get a ton of eyes on them. In that sense, F95 has become and is basically a more of a free, non-F2P, dev-friendly (in most cases, at least) Nutaku. Reddit is dead, Twitter is slow-growing, DeviantArt stopped being relevant years ago. Whereas F95 has 10,000+ users online at any given time. It's quid pro quo; make a good game/VN and the financial support will come more often than not. Most likely from this forum.

Plagiarism - using someone else's ideas or words without crediting the source and pretending they're your own. No, crediting the developer's renders isn't proper attribution. Especially when you're (attempting) to make a profit like said dev. Is he using other dev's renders without permission? Yes. Is he incorrectly attributing the games and their devs/authors? Yes. Hell, he probably UnRen'd someone's VN and copy-pasted his code.

Piracy - the unauthorized use, reproduction, or sharing of copyrighted or patented material – typically music, movies, TV shows, and software. Are we pirating his music/movies? No. Are we pirating his renders/animations/etc? No. Are we pirating his software? No. Are we sharing his copyrighted material? No.

 

[Joshua Tree]

I'm all for piracy. Hence why I upload my own VN here for free a week after anyone who financially supports the project has gotten it. Fuck Adobe and their subscription services. Same goes for anything of that sort. But I do have a problem with people who consciously steal shit, make a profit from something they didn't make, and then advertise it as their own intellectual property. Hiding and/or putting attribution to the original games in small print just as grimy. He could've just as easily put it in the overview/summary.

I'm not taking any ground, just calling it what it is. Once again - Piracy and theft/plagiarism are two different things, and legally, are treated as such. The reality is that an overwhelming majority of developers willingly upload their VN/game/projects here as the sheer size of F95's userbase allows them to get a ton of eyes on them. In that sense, F95 has become and is basically a more of a free, non-F2P, dev-friendly (in most cases, at least) Nutaku. Reddit is dead, Twitter is slow-growing, DeviantArt stopped being relevant years ago. Whereas F95 has 10,000+ users online at any given time. It's quid pro quo; make a good game/VN and the financial support will come more often than not. Most likely from this forum.

Plagiarism - using someone else's ideas or words without crediting the source and pretending they're your own. No, crediting the developer's renders isn't proper attribution. Especially when you're (attempting) to make a profit like said dev. Is he using other dev's renders without permission? Yes. Is he incorrectly attributing the games and their devs/authors? Yes. Hell, he probably UnRen'd someone's VN and copy-pasted his code.

Piracy - the unauthorized use, reproduction, or sharing of copyrighted or patented material – typically music, movies, TV shows, and software. Are we pirating his music/movies? No. Are we pirating his renders/animations/etc? No. Are we pirating his software? No. Are we sharing his copyrighted material? No.

Just saying both is a crime (Illegal), so in a place such as this, it would be like one crook pointing a finger at another and claim they are the bigger one. The creator is pirating though, because he pirate the gfx assets of someone else. He use them in a transformative work, so its not directly plagiarism. It doesn't excuse him of what he did, or give someone credits for the assets doesn't make it right either unless he got a green light from the creators to use said assets.

 

[yihman1]

Just saying both is a crime (Illegal), so in a place such as this, it would be like one crook pointing a finger at another and claim they are the bigger one. The creator is pirating though, because he pirate the gfx assets of someone else. He use them in a transformative work, so its not directly plagiarism. It doesn't excuse him of what he did, or give someone credits for the assets doesn't make it right either unless he got a green light from the creators to use said assets.

Pirating is one thing and Stealing something is different.

The vast majority of developers get along with f95zone and the people who run the site. The main reason for that is because this site is free. If f95zone put up a pay wall, and charged a monthly fee or charged by the download without giving any money to developers it would become theft and many developers would fight against that.

If BADASS INC the creator of this game did something similar I don't really think it would be much of an issue for most devs especially if they were asked ahead of time. If instead they were making a fan made game with a bunch of art combined from a bunch of devs for free and just for fun it wouldn't be an issue especially if they were linking to the creators of that art and their patron sites in the game. If they made this exact same game without monitizing it and also referenced who they used art from I think that would be much more acceptable and I don't think there would be an issue.

Instead they take art they didn't make and try to sell it.

 

[RoadWulf]

While not the same, there is very little difference between what this dev did and any of the real porn games that use established actors' material.

So... I mean, yeah it sucks that he stole from Devs and Artists, and it should be taken down. But any Dev producing an RP game who getting paid should be facing the same issue. Especially without royalties given to the actors.

 

[Jhon1885]

Anyway I must say that stolen art or not (I don't know how it's written, maybe it's a marvel, I can't talk about that) actually it's doing better than my last VN, in fact they even cleaned it of negative stars and it has "their likes" I think I'm going to start stealing renders (and give credit if they find out), I mean, it would save a lot of time and resources, and it seems that the results are better!

 

[yihman1]

While not the same, there is very little difference between what this dev did and any of the real porn games that use established actors' material.

So... I mean, yeah it sucks that he stole from Devs and Artists, and it should be taken down. But any Dev producing an RP game who getting paid should be facing the same issue. Especially without royalties given to the actors.

That is a very valid point. Only a very small amount of developers use real porn images less than 5%.

 

[Ambir]

What I'm wondering is, why would anyone support a game like this when they can support people who made the actual renders. This guy will not be making any content, so if anyone likes the content here, they should just look for whoever truly made it and support these people so that they make more content.

Dunno about stealing other people's art vs pirating people's game, however it just seems that on a logical level, if you pay this person, you are basically getting scammed, as you will get nothing for your money since he's not the one making the art...

Now, I will put one but here.
If you like this guy's writing, and the story he made, then there might be an argument to support him, as that's content he made. Hard to say if it's right... Guess that's going to be for Sam and his team to decide.

 

[Icarus Media]

Lol, this guy stolen my shitty render

render....singular? Not plural?

 

[Epic SB]

did my dude straight up steal art from other games and passed it off as his own

 

[Space Ghost]

Visual novel about a loving father that lost his daughter... lost as in died or she disowned him?