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The regular people here usually get along and want to talk about this game. The rude and annoying usually gets ignored so people want to stay.
RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [Part 2 v0.551c] [Fujino]
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I'm not familiar with the whole SAO franchise, so I don’t even get most of the connections and therefore won’t argue about them. However, there is another problem with such changes, as Fujino essentially undermines his own narrative with them. For example, removing Kirito’s achievements from the past isn’t necessarily a good Idea of you think about it. It diminishes the NTR aspect of the game and leans more towards natural cheating. If his backstory updates are revealed so late in the game and it turns out he was never anything special, it makes Asuna’s affection for him absolutely nonsensical in retrospect.It's more that I'm not taking it too seriously. It's like reading an AU fanfic I guess. A lot of things will generally make no sense or loosely reference the original material depending on the genre you're reading? So since it's a NTR Parody, a lot of dialogue is just going to be said in favor of that. But anyways it's kind of why I say at the end of my tangent to I guess enjoy this game/story in a vacuum. Constantly comparing it to its source material would only be headache inducing, because like you said "It's his vision and must have some meaning that may be important later in the story" is going to focus more on what the developer wants instead of focusing on respecting the source material.
In this sense, the developer and us consumers want to see the NTR Porn shit go down, so all the story bits being mentioned/used are just there to further this agenda. Kirito and Asuna are realistically nowhere near this stupid, and all the other girls that had any interest in Kirito definitely don't go off the deep end. Referencing the ALO bit, where Asuna's dad somehow saves her instead of Kirito, it probably can further imply Kirito's incompetence, hence it's important towards furthering the NTR storyline. So it's "important" but also not something to waste time comparing to the original is what I mean in terms of "ignoring" it, if that makes sense?
So my general advice is to not take the connection between the original source and the parody too seriously is about it?
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If people claim that everything makes perfect sense, it’s also fair for others to have an opposite opinion, especially when we provide arguments. Also, it’s not like we only complain; especially Alter has praised Fujino’s SAO knowledge several times.
I searched everywhere before triggering the quest but there are no things mentioned about the gate thing. If possible can you give me the save after passing the gate pls.
I'm not familiar with the whole SAO franchise, so I don’t even get most of the connections and therefore won’t argue about them. However, there is another problem with such changes, as Fujino essentially undermines his own narrative with them. For example, removing Kirito’s achievements from the past isn’t necessarily a good Idea of you think about it. It diminishes the NTR aspect of the game and leans more towards natural cheating. If his backstory updates are revealed so late in the game and it turns out he was never anything special, it makes Asuna’s affection for him absolutely nonsensical in retrospect.
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If people claim that everything makes perfect sense, it’s also fair for others to have an opposite opinion, especially when we provide arguments. Also, it’s not like we only complain; especially Alter has praised Fujino’s SAO knowledge several times.
It looks like you really don't understand SAO. Asuna's feelings for Kirito were already very deep in the SAO arc. The developments in ALO were just icing on the cake, not decisive. Changing the part in the original work where Kirito saves her in ALO wouldn't make Asuna's love for Kirito lose its reasons.I'm not familiar with the whole SAO franchise, so I don’t even get most of the connections and therefore won’t argue about them. However, there is another problem with such changes, as Fujino essentially undermines his own narrative with them. For example, removing Kirito’s achievements from the past isn’t necessarily a good Idea of you think about it. It diminishes the NTR aspect of the game and leans more towards natural cheating. If his backstory updates are revealed so late in the game and it turns out he was never anything special, it makes Asuna’s affection for him absolutely nonsensical in retrospect.
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If people claim that everything makes perfect sense, it’s also fair for others to have an opposite opinion, especially when we provide arguments. Also, it’s not like we only complain; especially Alter has praised Fujino’s SAO knowledge several times.
Don't get too caught up in Asuna's father's original setting. Since Sinon's chest can grow larger, it's not strange for Asuna's father to be more sensitive either.I mean, I have mentioned before that at the end of the day I long-since, even back in Part 1, gave up and just decided to enjoy the Hentai, that's what I was here in the first place, but back then Fujino's writing with this was also WAY simpler so it was easier to just stay silent XD It honestly feels like the more he tries to write his plot as a complex thing while indirectly referencing and twisting the OG SAO plot (Not even the characters but the actual setting), the more the stupid and inconsistent writing of this NTR-verse AU stands out, so yeah, it honestly just keeps sticking more and more for me when he releases updates like these and keeps trying to put explanations that just create more plot holes if you know even remotely anything about SAO
As I said, I legit couldn't care less about the main story, but I just can't stop my brain from going on a rampage every time he so casually butchers and twists the setting more and more when he could perfectly just not do that and keep focusing on Inoda NTR-ing Asuna and nobody would give a shit either way XpP
Fujino DOES show more SAO knowledge than the average NTR-game-maker (Or NTR-doujin-artist), but it's very clear it's either a very recent thing or he has been purposefully twisting it to fit into his NTR setting, so we get this weird mix-up where he seems like he knows what he's talking about to a degree but then goes off to both make the settings and character suits his purpose or just by Fanon logic (Like making Kirito a God in the game while everyone else is useless and gets tired of being dragged to do quests with him XP), so it ends up feeling more jarring than if he was making it all up if you know SAO at all XDI'm not familiar with the whole SAO franchise, so I don’t even get most of the connections and therefore won’t argue about them. However, there is another problem with such changes, as Fujino essentially undermines his own narrative with them. For example, removing Kirito’s achievements from the past isn’t necessarily a good Idea of you think about it. It diminishes the NTR aspect of the game and leans more towards natural cheating. If his backstory updates are revealed so late in the game and it turns out he was never anything special, it makes Asuna’s affection for him absolutely nonsensical in retrospect.
PS:
If people claim that everything makes perfect sense, it’s also fair for others to have an opposite opinion, especially when we provide arguments. Also, it’s not like we only complain; especially Alter has praised Fujino’s SAO knowledge several times.
Really, as other people said, it's not a BIG deal, and most players clearly give no fucks as they're here exclusively to see Asuna get NTR-ed from Kirito, but at times lately it has felt a bit too much for me, is like Fujino is trying to pump more and more half-assed Canon facts that he has twisted to suit him however he wants that just make the others contradicting or ignoring Canon stand out more (Yui's limbo existence, the ultra-dumb "doesn't matter if it's a game", nobody giving a shit that Silica has vanished from existence, the entire Administrator-Goddess-plot...honestly, Fujino tried to make the plot so 'complex' that it just feels like he struggles to keep it being a dumb NTR game while also trying to write something overly epic at times, but that in itself is beyond a doubt praise-worthy, especially with how dedicated he is to keep making this game).
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That's not the point. I understand their original relationship well enough, but it actually doesn’t matter. According to Fujino's vision, they were just a couple of kids playing husband and wife in a VR game (at least from Asuna’s perspective). As a result, their relationship in this reality is nothing like in the original series, which makes Asuna's affection lack a solid foundation in this story. The truth is, the more changes that are made, the messier the whole story becomes. Also, considering Fujino's last report, seems like he wants to make even more changes, so it's probably going to get even weirder from now on.
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That Asuna's father change seems like a deliberate choice by Fujino to weaken the bond between Kirito and Asuna. When Kirito beat Kayaba he saved everyone. When he beat Sugou he specifically saved Asuna (from being raped and or mind control). So by not letting Kirito beat Sugou is Fujino trying to say Kirito is not as dependable for Asuna in this AU thus letting Inoda have a better way into her heart?
Pretty much, that's the entire reason to solving the plot-hole with that change. Which mind you, would still be stupid given everything they went together in SAO...until you apply the retarded logic everyone is using in this story of "It's virtual so it doesn't matter", which makes their entire relationship suddenly seem a pointless game they were playing
As I said, Fujino should really stop trying to make the plot more 'complex' and just stick to Inoda NTR-ing people, because the more he does the messier the writing gets for anyone who cares, while the ones that don't care just enjoy the NTR, but that also means he's ONLY writing such a complex thing for the people who care and, again, those are the exact same people being put-off by all his BS attempts at turning SAO's 'lore' into his own plot XP
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Personal I like Fujino trying to write a complex story. Without that this game is still a good fap. With that this game is the most impressive game here IMO. Most developers won't even try to balance interesting story with fun gameplay. But Fujino tried and mostly succeeds.Pretty much, that's the entire reason to solving the plot-hole with that change. Which mind you, would still be stupid given everything they went together in SAO...until you apply the retarded logic everyone is using in this story of "It's virtual so it doesn't matter", which makes their entire relationship suddenly seem a pointless game they were playing
If nothing else it keeps people interested beyond the release period.
The second time after Inoda moved to the room next to Kirito then I took the quest to investigate the dark sewer
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Save 8 is at the beginning of sewer. I was able to get through without the door blocking me.
Save 18 is right after the blocked door.
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SwordArtOnlineTheTrapOfBreathConcealedMagic-P2v0.501
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