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Crimsonfiend76

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For what its worth, I loved this last, recent version of the game, complete with all the characters, personalities, and backstory where they are all related/have a shared past. While I was surprised how relatively quickly Alex was willing to reconsider her relationship with the MC from that of a guardian/foster parent into a romantic partner/lover, I did like for once there wasn't too much of a slow burn buildup once things got more physical between them. My only question was whether it was him she was attracted to, or her loneliness and possible residual feelings she still may be holding on to for Vale?

I also was curious given how Gracie seemed to be being naked around the MC and eventually 'experimenting' with him, if she actually is aware of her feelings for him or if she only sees him as a possible friend (bff) with benefits or if there was something more behind her wanting to get more intimate with him. While I also found Lilian and Celeste to a lesser extent also having feelings bordering on romantic for the MC, they also seemed to be a bit conflicted over just harmless flirting with the only convenient boy they have around, if they see the MC as a friend with benefits or if there was something more there.

I liked all the girls except it did bother me about Lilian's secret being a camgirl. While she's free to do whatever she wants and be as explicit as possible, it disgusted and turned me off watching her do that while reading the reactions of all the guys watching her in the chatroom. I guess maybe that was her way of trying to be more provacative and sexual with the MC when she immediately came to his room right after her session to get his reaction. While I hated seeing her sad reaction and disappointment to my disgust, I'm glad at least we had the option to tell her that was NOT something we liked/or are into. A potential work around would have been if she invited the MC into a private chat and then continued her more erotically explicit masturbation session without comments from the peanut gallery. Sadly her actually getting off on it kind of turned me off temporarily to her as a L.I. Hopefully we can either get a one-on-one private session with her or just avoid watching her stream session all together. I'd rather just walk away from that lewd scene completely, hopefully this isn't a deal-breaker with her if this part of her story makes it to the revamped version.

While looking forward to the reworked version coming, up, I hope not everything from this last version will be scrapped. So far the only info I believe confirmed is that it will take place in 1 world combined with magic and technology instead of being separated.
 
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Cartageno

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So I just discovered in the game that Lilian is a camgirl which sucks and it's a major turn off for me so can I completely avoid her from now on without missing anything or will I need to still go through her content to continue pursuing other girls down the line and the main story?
Since there is no "down the line", at least not for certain with the individual traits of the characters, nobody can tell.

The game will be "restarted", same characters, same general story, but changes will happen and we'll have to see if e. g. the "camgirl" stays.
 
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Since there is no "down the line", at least not for certain with the individual traits of the characters, nobody can tell.

The game will be "restarted", same characters, same general story, but changes will happen and we'll have to see if e. g. the "camgirl" stays.
Yeah I don't get why that is such a big BUTThurt for so many. I hate sharing my LIs with other men and I super hate NTR (as F95 defines it) but a girl (who's dating me) on a cam is like a girl (who's dating me) in a very sexy dress at the club. Lots of other men can see it and want it but she is not going anywhere with ANY of them she is going home to play with ME!

But whatevs

We will see what happens in Sylphine NEW.0
 

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Yeah I don't get why that is such a big BUTThurt for so many. I hate sharing my LIs with other men and I super hate NTR (as F95 defines it) but a girl (who's dating me) on a cam is like a girl (who's dating me) in a very sexy dress at the club. Lots of other men can see it and want it but she is not going anywhere with ANY of them she is going home to play with ME!

But whatevs

We will see what happens in Sylphine NEW.0
Same. Personally, bang a girl who a thousand of other guys want to fuck but all they can do is see her through a screen and jerk off makes me feel like a hell of an alpha. But this is only my mindset.
 

Crimsonfiend76

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Yeah I don't get why that is such a big BUTThurt for so many. I hate sharing my LIs with other men and I super hate NTR (as F95 defines it) but a girl (who's dating me) on a cam is like a girl (who's dating me) in a very sexy dress at the club. Lots of other men can see it and want it but she is not going anywhere with ANY of them she is going home to play with ME!

But whatevs

We will see what happens in Sylphine NEW.0
I'll be honest and say normally it wouldn't trigger me as much as it did when presented in game. It just so happens this time, the way the characters are established and presented as just friends, it makes me question her sincerity and flirtation prior to being invited to view her cam session. Would I have preferred her to just be a twitch-style streamer, sure, but given she went the camgirl route, I like the idea of her teasing in revealing underwear/lingerie or bikini and save the really raunchy stuff for private one-on-one cam sessions or even better just avoid watching completely once things progressed passed the teasing portion of the show.

Maybe its that her and the MC's relationship isn't as clearly defined despite the obvious chemistry and sexual tension between the two, but putting myself in the MC's shoes, I have to question if this secret side of Lilian is more indicative of her true exhibitionist personality or this is just a 'pay for play' and just a job. I'm a little confused as just when I thought the MC and her were getting seriously closer, pushing past the friend-zone, I'm left wondering what did she hope would be the end result of the MC watching her 'show'? Did she literally just want his feedback and essentially give her a high-five for how she gives zero fucks about her shows or was this some awkward attempt to entice the MC into pursuing something more sexual with her?
 

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Maybe its that her and the MC's relationship isn't as clearly defined despite the obvious chemistry and sexual tension between the two, but putting myself in the MC's shoes, I have to question if this secret side of Lilian is more indicative of her true exhibitionist personality or this is just a 'pay for play' and just a job. I'm a little confused as just when I thought the MC and her were getting seriously closer, pushing past the friend-zone, I'm left wondering what did she hope would be the end result of the MC watching her 'show'? Did she literally just want his feedback and essentially give her a high-five for how she gives zero fucks about her shows or was this some awkward attempt to entice the MC into pursuing something more sexual with her?
I feel like this kind of not knowing, confusion, and uncertainty can be part of a good story. These questions can be explored, and resolved further along in the story. Whether or not that was the original intention, we'll never know at this point, but, I prefer to give the benefit of the doubt to creators who have given me material I've been enjoying when I'm thrown a curve ball.
 
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Yeah I don't get why that is such a big BUTThurt for so many. I hate sharing my LIs with other men and I super hate NTR (as F95 defines it) but a girl (who's dating me) on a cam is like a girl (who's dating me) in a very sexy dress at the club. Lots of other men can see it and want it but she is not going anywhere with ANY of them she is going home to play with ME!
I definitely have a hard time understanding the furor.
Same. Personally, bang a girl who a thousand of other guys want to fuck but all they can do is see her through a screen and jerk off makes me feel like a hell of an alpha. But this is only my mindset.
You'd think that would be the case. There are a lot of guys in the real world who have found it quite an ego boost to be dating an porn star (or other actress). I think their attitude is much like the two above (others want her but she's going home with me).

Unfortunately, it seems that many who play for the "Alpha Male Power Fantasy," seem too insecure to have their character's "alpha-ness" be put to the test, would prefer that the character's self confidence and presence be assumed by virtue of no other men. I think they are too worried that exposure like that will lead to those dreaded three letters.
Maybe its that her and the MC's relationship isn't as clearly defined despite the obvious chemistry and sexual tension between the two, but putting myself in the MC's shoes, I have to question if this secret side of Lilian is more indicative of her true exhibitionist personality or this is just a 'pay for play' and just a job.
Interesting you should say that. I was talking with my former nesting partner about the game I'm developing. I was talking about a sex-worker character I'm considering. She has recently started identifying as Ace (asexual) and pointed out to me that many sex workers are themselves Ace. Sex is something they do, not something that is an important part of who they are.
 

Crimsonfiend76

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I definitely have a hard time understanding the furor.

You'd think that would be the case. There are a lot of guys in the real world who have found it quite an ego boost to be dating an porn star (or other actress). I think their attitude is much like the two above (others want her but she's going home with me).
I don't begrudge anyone their own feelings of pride having a hot girl that others can only dream about while they show them off/tease others not lucky enough to be in the same position. It just doesn't do anything for me personally or give me any type of 'ego' boost to be in that position. If my girl wanted to be a camgirl or stripper for that matter, I prefer she wouldn't but I would never forbid her from doing whatever she wants. At best I'd be indifferent as long as I wasn't there to watch to mild irritation and revulsion to witnessing her completely expose herself, especially her nether regions. A provacative, sexy dance/teasing is one thing, anything more than that and I'm out.

Interesting you should say that. I was talking with my former nesting partner about the game I'm developing. I was talking about a sex-worker character I'm considering. She has recently started identifying as Ace (asexual) and pointed out to me that many sex workers are themselves Ace. Sex is something they do, not something that is an important part of who they are.
Given how Lilian is presented as having a laid back, easy going personality we're not sure 100% what Lilian's intentions were with the MC, whether she sees him as just a friend and typical horny 18 y.o. that she can tease by flirting and exposing herself in front of him or if this is her subtle way of letting him know she likes him more than a friend. If its the former, then I guess she just wanted some validation or feedback for whatever strange reason from the MC and her act was all just for show. If its the latter, I would feel uncomfortable with her choice in letting her feelings for the MC be open to being misinterpreted/misunderstood.

If being an actual exhibitionist is something she's into, then it makes a difference to me whether or not any potential relationship will work out between her and my MC. I already prefer Alex and Gracie anyway so if this is who she is and what she's into, its easier for me to just walk away completely.
 

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If being an actual exhibitionist is something she's into, then it makes a difference to me whether or not any potential relationship will work out between her and my MC. I already prefer Alex and Gracie anyway so if this is who she is and what she's into, its easier for me to just walk away completely.
Pretty sure she's an exhibitionist based on her story about the beach being added to everything else. She certainly seems to like being seen. Of course we can't know for sure unless it comes out in the game at some point, but I'm pretty convinced already.
 

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I didn't know about the rework, so it's kinda sad as a player who was really liking the game so far. But it's pretty cool to see a dev that's not afraid to admit that he messed up and it's working to deliver a better version of the game. A lot of other devs who are with their games onhold for months and keeps lying about the development, could learn a lesson with Glacerose. Keep the good work man ;)
 

michael1984

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Just a shame that some characters look nothing like their older ones

Should have just gone with different names for these new models

And sucks that their personality and way of talking will be changed as well

But will just wait and see maybe it will grow on me once we can actually play some of it

But for now i had to cancel my sub to this game

Caus im not feeling alot of these new models looks :(
 

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I totally get that Glacerose has a certain vision for each girl that he just follows through - you don't need to make each girls "perfect". For Lilian I absolutely love the banter (the part about her being a little dirty cucumber was gold!) but really not a fan of the exhibitionism and her side hustle. Gracie brings a positive vibe and her innocence is really cute, but you need to like thicc girls who are very forward with being physical (which I do not). Now Alex slowly rose to the top (sweet, sexy, and capable business woman - bullseye) and Celeste was awesome throughout (though I would tweak the scene when she gives MC the photos, maybe insinuate that she wanted to make him interested in her or she was jealous about him looking at another girl - as is, it is a bit too sudden).
Whereas Gracie was the first character to spark my interest.
 

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Final versions of the characters. Figured it's about time I post them outside of Patreon/Discord. They have multiple outfits and forms, but I don't wanna flood with pics, so this is just their "casual" outfit. Everyday wear. View attachment 1380228 View attachment 1380229 View attachment 1380230 View attachment 1380231 View attachment 1380232
Celeste is much better with pink hair and eyes
Please leave Celeste as it was before
She is beautiful and perfect all in pink
don't make this slight to your admirers
 

Crimsonfiend76

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Celeste is much better with pink hair and eyes
Please leave Celeste as it was before
She is beautiful and perfect all in pink
don't make this slight to your admirers
If she was my favorite/main L.I., I'd care more, and while I agree the pink hair just works for her, I'm willing to keep an open mind and wait and see how she is presented in the new reworked version.

Whereas Gracie was the first character to spark my interest.
Same. To me she is absolute perfection, though I'm not sure if she really is just that naïve about exposing herself and bathing with the MC or if she likewise is attracted to him and this is her way of showing her interest while 'experimenting' with her awakening sexuality. I hope its more of the latter since I'd feel like a creep if she friend-zoned the MC and was taking this change in their relationship dynamic as no more than just a best friend with benefits.

Alex is a very close second if not 1B to Gracie's 1A in my book! I'm actually a little surprised how open-minded Alex was in not really putting up much of a fight when things got seriously romantic and hot & heavy between her and the MC. :unsure: :love:
 
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Been playing this game; fantastic work on the dialogue and animation, and I'm very much enjoying it so far.

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Just my two cents. Fantastic game though. Can't wait to actually get the MC to have sex with one of the girls. Hope there's creampies. :D

EDIT: Out of curiosity, has anybody created an outline guide on the differences of the guild choices? I'm at that point now, and just figuring out my way forward.
 
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