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Ren'Py Abandoned Teacher's Pets [v2.06.1] [irredeemable]

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irredeemable

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"So I couldn't sleep (An important announcement about the future)"

Anyone have this from dev's Patreon? It was posted this morning and I am now worried :(
I do, but I've been arguing about it all morning and don't look forward to the shitstorm here, so I'll let someone else post it. Keep in mind as you read it that I think you'll find, once you actually play the game, that ultimately the changes are of little consequence--some may even be improvements.
 

Dasati

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Oh dear, some people do not react well to even the smallest changes, see the Man of the House thread and change from family to step family.
 

Ignazzio

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Oh dear, some people do not react well to even the smallest changes, see the Man of the House thread and change from family to step family.
Worth to notice it's not even change as they could be step-family from the start so all dialogs fit and it doesn't affect dev's idea at all. I'm curious of changes in TP but I know I can trust this dev so it doesn't really matter for me if D. was another student or whatever. Quality is still here
 

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Oh dear, some people do not react well to even the smallest changes, see the Man of the House thread and change from family to step family.
Yes, and mine are more extensive than that. I expect to lose a lot of patrons over the next few days—hopefully they'll give 1.7 a chance.
 

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Yes, and mine are more extensive than that. I expect to lose a lot of patrons over the next few days—hopefully they'll give 1.7 a chance.
Sure I love your writing and the renders are nice. I know my opinion isn't worth much as I'm not one of your patreons but as long as you keep the quality up I'll keep playing.
 

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What? Was the game setting changed to University of the Third Age? All characters are 70+ now, up yours Patreon! With new memorable quests like "get Kaitlyn prescription for medical marihuana", "find spare parts for Megans wheel chair", etc. I hope not. ;)
 
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What? Was the game setting changed to University of the Third Age? All characters are 70+ now, up yours Patreon! With new memorable quests like "get Kaitlyn prescription for medical marihuana", "find spare parts for Megans wheel chair", etc. I hope not. ;)
Impossible. That's dangerously close to necrophilia and it's banned as well:(
 

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Worth to notice it's not even change as they could be step-family from the start so all dialogs fit and it doesn't affect dev's idea at all. I'm curious of changes in TP but I know I can trust this dev so it doesn't really matter for me if D. was another student or whatever. Quality is still here
Yeah but some people in the thread were throwing a fit because they were more invested in the incest part, so not even having the option to choose family was apparently a deal breaker. I'm with you though I like this game because of the quality of the renders, and the humour in deems writing so still planning to become a patron on Wed. Unless the post is about changing the game to what @smnb said lol
 

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Yeah but some people in the thread were throwing a fit because they were more invested in the incest part, so not even having the option to choose family was apparently a deal breaker. I'm with you though I like this game because of the quality of the renders, and the humour in deems writing so still planning to become a patron on Wed. Unless the post is about changing the game to what @smnb said lol
People like to bitch about things. Fortunately it seems like faerin's patron number is growing as always and I'm sure irredeemable won't lose much even without incest. His reputation is so positive I doubt it will affect his patrons as much as some think. I wish him best for that. Someone could share this post so we could actually know what's gonna change
 

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People like to bitch about things. Fortunately it seems like faerin's patron number is growing as always and I'm sure irredeemable won't lose much even without incest. His reputation is so positive I doubt it will affect his patrons as much as some think. I wish him best for that. Someone could share this post so we could actually know what's gonna change
I doubt it. I think I'll lose quite a bit, but that I can rebuild. So many people have ill will towards Patreon right now and look at any dev that makes concessions to the CG as coward or worse. As I say in the post, many very successful devs seem to be able to get by disregarding the community guidelines, unfortunately not all of us are in that position.

I remember an interview the AV Club did with Isaac Brock of Modest Mouse years ago. They asked if licensing out his songs was a tough decision.

"Figuring out ways to pay the rent isn't really a tough decision ... I like keeping the lights on in my house. People who don't have to make their living playing music can bitch about my principles while they spend their parents' money or wash dishes for some asshole. Principles are something that people are a lot better at checking in other people than keeping their own."
 
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I can't really comment other opinions, but I would say they are more angry because it's hard to adopt. You know, you have had characters, settings, story... things you familiarize with - and now, one or more of your beloved characters are someone else or story is going in different direction.

That's something that happend to a lot of TV-shows and (some of them) they lost their fans because of it. It's natural same thing will happen here.
 

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I doubt it. I think I'll lose quite a bit, but that I can rebuild. So many people have ill will towards Patreon right now and look at any dev that makes concessions to the CG as coward or worse. As I say in the post, many very successful devs seem to be able to get by disregarding the community guidelines, unfortunately not all of us are in that position.
So if you're right lets hope you'll rebuild your playerbase relatively soon. I seriously doubt it will be so serious but who knows. Recreating things might gain you another group of players that were unable to enjoy your game before and it might be something positive in a longterm. Time will tell. If I'm right you should transfer me your excess money \m/

"Figuring out ways to pay the rent isn't really a tough decision ... I like keeping the lights on in my house. People who don't have to make their living playing music can bitch about my principles while they spend their parents' money or wash dishes for some asshole. Principles are something that people are a lot better at checking in other people than keeping their own."
On point. Being adult is a bitch
 

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Honestly, the most prominent stuff that's changing is stuff I never really liked to begin with, and don't think is very good content. Then there is one recent scene, which I liked, but when I consider the implications now I feel may have been in very bad taste—so I'm not sad to see it taken in a different direction. The Kaitlyn BJ scene, that is. Go ahead, call me an SJW. XD
 
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What exactly do you find so sad? That just seems like an extreme overreaction to me.
You're changing basically everything. Even if what you change it to is good, and it likely will be, you're a good writer. It won't be the SAME GAME that I have been enjoying so far. TBH Deem you might as well just fucking start over if you're going to change that much. :S
 

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TBH I don't think any change about Kait will raise masses with pitchforks. She is not yet of "flesh and blood" like D. or Meg - even Sara - so her scenes, just like her background story, aren't "mandatory" - yet.
 
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Since reinstatement I've been mulling over lots of different plans for how to proceed with the game from here. At first I thought an external server which linked to Patreon (but not vice versa) could be a solution. I even set one up that uses the Patreon API (it's pretty neat actually and I might end up migrating to it eventually). But, after carefully rereading the community guidelines and the correspondence from the agent who handled my case, I am now convinced that this would not be acceptable.
I realize many developers are getting by ignoring the community guidelines to some degree but, for whatever reason, I don't appear to have that luxury. Patreon is my livelihood and I can't take the risk of serious disciplinary action. Therefore, starting with 1.7, Teacher's Pets will diligently adhere to the community guidelines.

What does that entail? Surprisingly, not as much as you would think. Once I sat down and actually looked at the changes I would need to make I felt relief. I actually think they are, on balance, for the good of the game.

First, MC is out. Let's face it, my heart was never in it to begin with and it was implemented in a half-assed fashion anyway. Most people's favorite scenes, the Meg college trip and "movie night" either required no MC or needn't have. All the events that MC unlocked will now be unlocked by romance or a combination of romance and corruption. Only now the dialogue will be more interesting.

S-D(I'm not sure on the rules there yet, but you can probably guess what the S stands for) will have an early romance trigger possibility so all of her scenes can play out in the manner that you're used to. Oh, and in case you're wondering: I like the drug dealer's dialogue too much to remove it—I'll just make some minor additions to account for this new change.

I actually think this is a very good change for the game, and have often said that if I had it to do over again I never would have done MC in the first place. In fact, the only reason I did is because I already had the drug dealer character from an earlier, short-lived attempt at a game, and I liked writing for him so much that I stuck him in TP.

Blackmail is still in but can no longer be used for you-know-what. This is replaced by romantic possibilities with Kaitlyn instead. All of her scenes will remain in, the classroom scene will be governed by her rom/corruption and feature a new render if those scores are high enough. I'll consider this change neutral, some will like it and other will dislike it. Personally, I look forward to writing romantic progression for her.

Those are the two big ones. There will be a handful of other smaller changes that will barely register: for example, instead of a high school our characters are now attending a post-graduate academy (edit: to clear up a common misconception I've been hearing, this is not a college. This is for a school for high school graduates, so 18, 19 year olds). Kaityln will receive a new outfit voted on by you guys, but will still wear her cheerleading outfit when appropriate. I'll probably remove the "better view" option from the bedroom (though don't worry, you'll be seeing a lot more of S-D in 1.7).

For those of you who dislike these changes, I'm very sorry, but I feel like my hands are tied here. You still have several days to delete or change your pledge, and I understand completely if that is your choice. Also of note is the fact that animation previews will probably no longer be a thing given the current climate, nor will lewd previews. To compensate, I will be interacting with you guys in other ways, including many more polls, which I have been neglecting for some time.

I realize making this announcement now may cost me a large portion of my income, but I feel like it's something I have to do. I heard someone in Discord, someone in a similar situation to mine, say that it's hard to work with the sword of Damocles hanging over your head—that's very true. I feel like the sword has been lifted. For those of you who choose to stick around you have my sincerest gratitude, and I will work tirelessly to blow your minds with v1.7.
 

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You're changing basically everything. Even if what you change it to is good, and it likely will be, you're a good writer. It won't be the SAME GAME that I have been enjoying so far. TBH Deem you might as well just fucking start over if you're going to change that much. :S
What? Maybe you misunderstand the changes, or I haven't communicated them well. I'm certainly not changing "everything." Or even... I don't understand how you could get that impression.
 
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