VN Ren'Py Abandoned The City of Promise [Ch.1 Remake Bugfix] [TGO Entertainment]

[Demoness_Kiss]

Evrybody needs to stay calm yeah sure mistakes are made and nobody is the perfect writer but the dev is doing his best to listen and repair stuff and make the game better moving forward not all games are for evrybody instead of saying the same complaint again and again move on to another game if you dont like the overal basis for this story i for one enjoy this game allot and moving forward the family will keep making up for what happend will see. Be glad this doesnt have ntr or sharing you can even ignore girls touching eachother moving forward if you want.

The mom is my favo like the model and character i play this for the mom and son incest content. Cant wait to impregnate her and fuck her pussy pregnant and more.

WOW the second smart guy in this thread, i'm so euphoric now XD (i'm not being sarcastic, although it sounds i'm, i'm actually making a compliment XD)

 

[EZ8lt]

Well I just played the re-write, but this is only somewhat better. The best analogy is that in the first version there was a wound, which now has been tended to an extent, but only temporalily, the wound is still there and won't be healed completely.

Basically, you tried to make the whole scenario into something acceptable by somewhat dwarfing it and making a few rounds, but the core issues are there. The amount of times MC being drugged were toned down, but it's still there ultimately. Now instead of looking like plain assholes, the girls present themselves in a way where they are misunderstood martyrs, but when it came to the MC, they still pretty much stepped all over him. MC has some sort of reactions instead of just yes-manning it automatically, but then you went "oh I can only go to school and home, and they seems to be just misunderstood, let's go with it", so it pretty much ends up the same. I feel like you just tried to "legalize" the whole situation in the eyes of the players, especially with how now the MC has plans to use the drug himself on others for funs and giggles. Ultimately though, you don't have any choice in the matters, only the illusion of it, especially with how during the "training" you either do the "correct" answers or fail. By the way this would've been a perfect segment to clear things out but nope.

The only good addition I found was the hacker, and the last sequence that foreshadowed some sort of a bigger picture, you'll be able to build up on that, but the foundations will be still shaky when push comes to shove.

 

[Demoness_Kiss]

Well I just played the re-write, but this is only somewhat better. The best analogy is that in the first version there was a wound, which now has been tended to an extent, but only temporalily, the wound is still there and won't be healed completely.

Basically, you tried to make the whole scenario into something acceptable by somewhat dwarfing it and making a few rounds, but the core issues are there. The amount of times MC being drugged were toned down, but it's still there ultimately. Now instead of looking like plain assholes, the girls present themselves in a way where they are misunderstood martyrs, but when it came to the MC, they still pretty much stepped all over him. MC has some sort of reactions instead of just yes-manning it automatically, but then you went "oh I can only go to school and home, and they seems to be just misunderstood, let's go with it", so it pretty much ends up the same. I feel like you just tried to "legalize" the whole situation in the eyes of the players, especially with how now the MC has plans to use the drug himself on others for funs and giggles. Ultimately though, you don't have any choice in the matters, only the illusion of it, especially with how during the "training" you either do the "correct" answers or fail. By the way this would've been a perfect segment to clear things out but nope.

The only good addition I found was the hacker, and the last sequence that foreshadowed some sort of a bigger picture, you'll be able to build up on that, but the foundations will be still shaky when push comes to shove.

do you want him to remake the first chapter....again?

for the sake of talking, make a list of what you would change XD

 

[EZ8lt]

do you want him to remake the first chapter....again?

for the sake of talking, make a list of what you would change XD

At this point, I don't want to remake anything again for my personal tastes anymore. I gave it two shots, the first as I do with pretty much any game that doesn't involve tags that I outright avoid, and the second I gave out of curiosity to see if things changed enough or not. It's obvious that in the long run, with the current writing this simply won't be my game.

As for a few suggestions what to change so, that I won't only talk out of my ass but give something constructive:

- Give an actual choice in how you handle the revelations. There are people that likes to be yes-mans for everything they got thrown at them, mostly developers from my experience, but that's probably because they want to create certain situations but can't flesh them out properly so it gets swept under the rug for the sake of story progression, but still they exist. For the more pragmatic ones, do make a neutral stanceish way. Right now not even one day passes after his whole life being turned upside down, and he just goes along with it anyway. That's why many feels disjointed from the story. This isn't a book or tv show where you just watch the events unfolding, this is the game where you have to actively participate in order for progression. This goes for further interactions when you'll meet again the roomate's roomate and the neighbour, or anyone that was involved.

- Remove the part where the MC starts making plans to use the drug himself entirely. That absolutely feels like something that wants to set up a tone that legalizes it: "You see, the main character itself started to use it to have fun, instead of just "protecting" his loved ones, so that makes everything that happened before right, since he even went further!!!" It's completely unnecessary, and would only tear down the MC characteristic in order to make it acceptable, or just sets up some weak-ass "revenge" plot.

- The minigame section is wack right now as it is, especially with the rewrite. The quiz with Susan where she casually asks about you the drug comes off weird, not to mention where the MC have to reminds himself whom she fucked with, again. With the sister, there should be some sort of point system in that section, that allows you not to only give the "correct" answers but to mix them up but still progress. Right now she teaches you to pick up girls by licking their boots ultimately, not to pick them up but still keeping it within your own preferences.

Right now this three is the weakest point of the rewrite, that overall depicts the analogy I wrote about it before.

 

[clowns234]

do you want him to remake the first chapter....again?

for the sake of talking, make a list of what you would change XD

My biggest problem with the original was that the Dev went out of his way to show that Mom and the rest were these sex-crazed addicts willing to drug the MC to have their orgy but when me as a player choose the option "I want to see your tits", I am chastised as the player for slut shaming the suddenly wholesome Mom.

I think the Dev addressed those issues well enough in the rewrite. Time to move forward.

 

[gamenerd9000]

so, you talk how important the plot is important to you...but because of one minor poorly managed thing(in a prologue, call it, Chapter 1 doesn't change the fact that it's a prologue) you decide that you'll skip everything and focus only on the fapping without even knowing if the plot will improve?

i'm thinking about what you are...but considering that my last 5 posts(in other threads) got deleted because i spoke my mind about people whining over not getting what they want...i'll give you an extremely vague clue: you share a trait with the developer of Shenmue-saga(good luck finding which one and guessing it right)

i'll leave you with that ^_^

I mean you can pretend to be a middle man arbiter but it's clear you already have a strong bias. You took my last paragraph and completely ignored the rest which talks about the main subject of which many people have various issues with. I even explain that it's a clear bias on my part at least in my reaction to it, but the plot holes are still plot holes.

In addition, I don't understand why you think your opinions are more valid than others in respect to our collective critic of the writing, albeit from various perspectives. More than that, only a few people hate the whole drugging part; it's more of a "why" from what i've read. I've seen the dev's response but it's only in response to how much the drugging is part of the dialogue. That's not what interests me, and it's clear that is all that interests you. What does interest me is if the writing is actually going to get better because if the entire story is just going to plot hole after plot hole then what's the point of wasting time reading the dialogue? Would you continue watch a movie if the first 30mins bored you unless someone else told you it actually got good later on?

Again, since it seems you didn't read or understand clearly, I believe the overarching plot actually has something going for it. I played and saw the "ending preview" so it seems like there is more than meets the eye obviously. However, if people are going to read a story and be vested into characters there has to be more than just one-sided dialogue and events that just happen to just push the plot forward. The entire story right now is MC gets drugged then spends the next few days being a yes-man to his "landlady" and "roommate" because he essentially got horny. Why does he become a yes-man? Because he is both horny and loves both ladies. Why does he love them? Because they are his "landlady" and "roommate". That's literally all you can extract right now. No other reason other than, "well they're a family so they have to love each other". Again, sure it works because it's a porn-VN and no one is expecting a Nobel Prize script, but at the very least there are many people just like me who have absolutely 0 idea why the MC is a straight yes-man to people he found out just drugged him at least twice just to have sex in the same house as him. Clearly it must have been even worse before because the dev felt the need to rewrite ch 1.

Am I asking for another rewrite? No, and I never asked for it in my original post. All I asked for was a story that didn't have random plot holes like the example above.

 

[Demoness_Kiss]

1° I mean you can pretend to be a middle man arbiter but it's clear you already have a strong bias. You took my last paragraph and completely ignored the rest which talks about the main subject of which many people have various issues with. I even explain that it's a clear bias on my part at least in my reaction to it, but the plot holes are still plot holes.

2° In addition, I don't understand why you think your opinions are more valid than others in respect to our collective critic of the writing, albeit from various perspectives. More than that, only a few people hate the whole drugging part; it's more of a "why" from what i've read. I've seen the dev's response but it's only in response to how much the drugging is part of the dialogue. That's not what interests me, and it's clear that is all that interests you. What does interest me is if the writing is actually going to get better because if the entire story is just going to plot hole after plot hole then what's the point of wasting time reading the dialogue? Would you continue watch a movie if the first 30mins bored you unless someone else told you it actually got good later on?

3°Again, since it seems you didn't read or understand clearly, I believe the overarching plot actually has something going for it. I played and saw the "ending preview" so it seems like there is more than meets the eye obviously. However, if people are going to read a story and be vested into characters there has to be more than just one-sided dialogue and events that just happen to just push the plot forward. The entire story right now is MC gets drugged then spends the next few days being a yes-man to his "landlady" and "roommate" because he essentially got horny. Why does he become a yes-man? Because he is both horny and loves both ladies. Why does he love them? Because they are his "landlady" and "roommate". That's literally all you can extract right now. No other reason other than, "well they're a family so they have to love each other". Again, sure it works because it's a porn-VN and no one is expecting a Nobel Prize script, but at the very least there are many people just like me who have absolutely 0 idea why the MC is a straight yes-man to people he found out just drugged him at least twice just to have sex in the same house as him. Clearly it must have been even worse before because the dev felt the need to rewrite ch 1.

4° Am I asking for another rewrite? No, and I never asked for it in my original post. All I asked for was a story that didn't have random plot holes like the example above.

i'll leave the full quote now, so just you maybe notice the bloody text-wall that even in the "reply-box" it's already occupying like 90% of said reply-box, this is why i cut off the part of your post/quote that for me where okay-ish or that didn't need an answer in my opinion. To your quote, you'll notice that i numbered your paragraphs, so you'll know to which part i'm about to answer ^_^

1°: Actually i answered this in the premise of this post but no i'm not an arbiter or have a strong bias, but it looks like it. My attitude towards this thread(not the game itself, but rather the thread) is more like asking turn it down a notch, why? Because people are complaining and whining too much, and most of them don't offer a decent feedback, nothing that would help the dev in any way possible, i mean what kind of feedback is "the characters are ugly, i'm not playing this game" ?? How that will help the dev?

2°: My opinion are more valid than others, when the other opinions are full of nothing, in page 1 and 2, i criticized MC's lack of reaction(i wasn't the only one) and that brought a change, meaning that my opinion had some weight. Will my opinions have weight in the future? I don't know, maybe, or maybe not. The issue here like i told you in part 1°, is when people say "the game sucks" and they don't explain what they disliked of it, you're not helping the dev or offering some argument for a conversation, you just wrote a mean comment for the hell of it, or because that person is petty. You don't see me insulting clowns234 's opinion nor EZ8lt's post BECAUSE their points have some validity, they shared something interesting, they showed the flaws of the game without insulting it or acting like morons about it. You made a nice speech about the importance of a good plot...only to destroy yourself by saying (in short) "btw because of this single minor plot-point, i'm going to skip the whole plot of the game and go straight to the fapping-material" meaning that you already gave up with the game, and you don't care any more...but it's just the prologue…are you so that lacking in patience? So yeah: my opinions are more valid than other ONLY WHEN other's opinions are just petty hate that brings nothing to the conversation, otherwise, my opinions have the same validity of everybody else.

3° FINALLY an actual good answer, some decent feedback, i had to piss you off just to have this opinion? Because in this point You're right, this should be analysed and WE should talk about it, we should learn more about it, this is something that the dev needs to see and possibly explain to us, possibly in the next chapter or maybe chapter 2 will begin with the classic summary of the previous chapter, possibly from MC's point of view and drop the explanation about MC being a yes-man despite the drug issue, FOR ME even just "i was so confused that i simply agreed hoping that i would figure out the situation i'm in" will be a decent explanation for a porn-VN.

4° I asked what do you expect? But considering your 3° point, if you ever ask for a remake of the remake of the first chapter, i would happily agree with you

Conclusion: now that i posted your text-wall in quote(when you click "click to expand"), and wrote my text-wall to answer you...look what a bloody mess is this post XD that's why i removed parts of your quoted post in my previous answer and focused on what i wanted to answer.

 

[ropershy]

like the rest i'm not too happy about how the MC just caved in. But that said considering how the MC was raised by women. Have only been around females. Never ever saw another male except in movies, books and Magazines. We are lucky he got mad at all instead of just saying "Yes Mommy".
Like the rest I wish the Dev had done something besides the drugging. Secret sex room that MC can't get into. but this isn't my game. It is the Dev's. Keep bringing up the drugs and MC being such a pussy. Is like Kicking a Dead Horse. It is DEAD ALREADY!!! Leave it alone!

We keep complaining about this stuff and the DEV is going to say SCREW IT and ABANDON the game. I'm curious now as to what the Ceremony is and what the MC is going to learn from those on his computer.

in the end it is JUST A GAME!!!!!!!

 

[Demoness_Kiss]

like the rest i'm not too happy about how the MC just caved in. But that said considering how the MC was raised by women. Have only been around females. Never ever saw another male except in movies, books and Magazines. We are lucky he got mad at all instead of just saying "Yes Mommy".
Like the rest I wish the Dev had done something besides the drugging. Secret sex room that MC can't get into. but this isn't my game. It is the Dev's. Keep bringing up the drugs and MC being such a pussy. Is like Kicking a Dead Horse. It is DEAD ALREADY!!! Leave it alone!

We keep complaining about this stuff and the DEV is going to say SCREW IT and ABANDON the game. I'm curious now as to what the Ceremony is and what the MC is going to learn from those on his computer.

in the end it is JUST A GAME!!!!!!!

Finally someone said it loud and clear ^_^

 

[PAPTT]

I have a hard time when told to touch the sensitive part. I've done the first part, but got stuck in the second part. can someone tell me what i should do?

 

[clowns234]

I have a hard time when told to touch the sensitive part. I've done the first part, but got stuck in the second part. can someone tell me what i should do?

The easiest thing to do is just rollback and try again when you get a negative response.

 

[TGO Entertainment]

I have a hard time when told to touch the sensitive part. I've done the first part, but got stuck in the second part. can someone tell me what i should do?

Hey PAPTT. Thanks for trying the game. Correct clicks for the second part of the minigame are face, breasts, and crotch. You can only click on each area one time. Let me know if you have any issues.

 

[libertypics]

(Me seeing the breasts)
... good good good, right track, but can you make them lactate at some point?

 

[Demoness_Kiss]

(Me seeing the breasts)
... good good good, right track, but can you make them lactate at some point?

there is already the pregnancy tag...so...it's likely that will happen?

 

[Demoness_Kiss]

Im pretty sure its gonna happen but where dith you see that tag i dont see it.

i remember to see it...wait it's not there? O.O weird

 

[caxhub]

this is an unofficial android port The City of Promise [Ch. 1 - Rewrite] APK -

You must be registered to see the links

 

[PAPTT]

Hey PAPTT. Thanks for trying the game. Correct clicks for the second part of the minigame are face, breasts, and crotch. You can only click on each area one time. Let me know if you have any issues.

Thanks bruh. Its realy helped me...

 

[Arassei]

Heya,

... Heya, heya, heya.... pff, I really don't know.

I played for the first time just here, so I'm not aware of a previous version of the game.

I would like to tell what I think, but it's not easy. It's obvious that the Dev makes efforts for the story, so... For once, I will try to be " nice ".

First, most of my point of view is the one of a pure NTR-hater.
Before you starting to yell " there is no NTR in this game ", well... it's true, and it's not true at the same time.

First, I really didn't like the fact that the MC is getting over all of it so "easily".
- He discovered his whole family drugged him just to have sex, like a bunch of sluts, just for not to be bothered.
- His own mother, his own family agreed to drugged him.
- As he didn't eat the drugged cake, his own sister knocked him out.
- After KO the MC, the whole family just went to have a group sex and didn't gave a dam about the fact they hurted the MC to the point to make him unconscious.
- Tomorrow, they were just two women smilling at the MC like nothing happened.

My NTR point of view is because it was the same feeling. Not " jealousy ", because the dev made the women said that they can't wait to tell the MC about it, so, they wanted to tell him. But it was " betrayal ", " unfairness", " injustice" that I felt, because :
1) The MC didn't really do something about that.
2) How they dared to do that to him ? How horrible his family is ?

But I will explain my points more in details :

- He discovered his whole family drugged him just to have sex, like a bunch of sluts, just for not be bothered.
I want to say that if he didn't discovered it, how many times again his family would have drugged him after this one ?
The Dev made them said it was only " two time" (I don't know if the failure is counted as one of them), but you can feel that the Dev didn't want to make them too " sluts ". Unfortunately, it didn't work, because... well must I say it ? They drugged him, they did it. They admit it themselves that it was just to be " not bothered " by him. Not bothered ? Seriously ? It's your own son/brother/nephew/cousin! Come on!
There is absolutely no excuse for that.
Why they need this drug ? Why they don't go at the hotel or whatever ?
In a society where you can have sex with the first stranger you accros in the streets, the hotels are not something "important"?

- His own mother, his own family agreed to drug him.
That's just awful ! How can the dev decided to go with that story ?
The " remorses " they show after that is not convincing at all ! It remembers me " My new Family " when the mother said she was soooo saaad for abandoning her own son. But I didn't feel anything. I didn't feel any remorse, I didn't feel any one of these traitors feeling like shit. The empathy for the MC is just non-existent.
Nowhere in the game I read " Yeah, in fact, we didn't have a lot of sex because we weren't in the mood because we felt bad about you...". No, nothing like that. ZERO. They didn't give a dam about it.
That " drug " part is really toxic for the story. It clearly didn't need it. It make it soooo much worse.

- As he didn't eat the drugged cake, his own sister knocked him out.
Worst. Sister. Ever.
How can the MC even think about forgiving her ? Just that scene should have made the MC choose to go in exile. Just because of that.
What if she actually hurted him really bad ? Or maybe kill him by accident ? How even she dared to think about just doing it ?
And again, no remorse.
No, no... it doesn't work. At all. That part needs to be removed.

- After KO the MC, the whole family just went to have a group sex and didn't gave a dam about the fact they hurted the MC to the point to make him unconscious.
That's why I said they are a bunch of sluts. Nobody cares about the MC, and all of them went into a lesbian orgy.
WORSE OF THAT, the mother just admit it with a fucking smile on her face!
" Oh yeah the night you found about us, we all went in the room to have sex together ". Just die already, you fake mom!
DEV ! How is that even possible ? How can you valid that story in your mind ?
Honestly, why the MC didn't destroyed everything around him ? How can he feels okay after he heard that shoking truth ?
The family should have been devasted ! The only person they have to hide the secret from has discovered them! How will he react after seeing his family having sex together ? What consequences it would have for them for not telling him earlier ? How betrayed he would feel ? So much important questions that should have passed trough their head. Their " calm " an " cool " sex-world just blow up to their face in an instant. How can even they in the mood to having sex like nothing happened ?
MC's only reaction should have been " So, if I understand it clearly, you whore, after KO me, you just put me in my bed and went into an orgy and forgot about me ? "
The mom : "... eh.... well... you know... "
First, you slap the mother's face. And not lighty please. After that : " You, my mother, and them, my sister, my aunt, my cousin, you are the worst family ever. I will choose the exile and nobody will be able to stop me ". END.

- Tomorrow, they were just two women smilling at the MC like nothing happened.
No sadness (make the mom looks the ground is clearly not enough), no "real" excuses, no fucking "good" explanation, no... nothing. The MC even wondered if it wasn't a dream.
I say it again, the family should have been devasted.
Devasted for the betrayal, devasted for hurting him (a very important person, as a rare male in this society), devasted by everything he discovered. The aunt and the cousin weren't even here to support! What the hell is that?! Seriously!

That's all fror theses point.

Now, I would like to explain something again, with the NTR-point of view :
The women of this game are reaaaally a bunch of sluts. You can't just reveal the truth of the biggest secret of the society and just after that, saying that you fucked your son's principal, coach, family, etc...
If you want to said that, you must have a " family reunion ", something who gave the player a feeling of " something important will be said, so stay focused !" And there is nothing like that in the game.
We understand, as players, that if the sex is " so free " (to the point to accepting incest), well, they will have sex ! No shit, Sherlock !
What didn't make me yell like a giant grizzly was the fact that the dev tried to minimize the dammages. That was something "good". It was not enough, but I felt the intention.
Exemple : the mother said she only met five men in her life (or something like that), it was " good"
she said she had sex with all of them, it was " bad" (and speaking of that, they were all the five with her ? It was a gangbang ? I hope not, or the mother's image will be completely destroyed for me...)
Another exemple : The sister only have " one " real boyfriend. And now she hates him. Good.
She says a little too much how much she carred about him (bad)( I felt most love for her boyfriend than for the MC who was drugged and KO)
Another thing is : they are speaking too much about their past sex-life. Too much. I know it's just for showing some lesbian scenes (always appreciated, and again, I applaud the dev for no showing scene with another man than the MC), but take the place of the MC just one second :
You think your family is normal, and tomorrow, you hear that they are having sex with half of the city, behind your back. Your mother at her work (the excuse of "I have needs" doesn't work, it failed), and with your teachers, principal, etc...
And your whole family is like that.
Honestly, you really don't think that your family is just trying to make you jealous and they are not a bunch of sluts ? What family is happy to tell you how much of used good they are and you will never be able to experiment something new with them ?
That's the NTR-vibe of the game : your family has " too much " experience and show it off, and it's unfair for you who have " nothing". More of that, your first experience is with your family, and not with someone who have " nothing" either. The sex in this society is " too free" and not well " managed " to prevent the player from feeling this unfairness.
Of course, and again, good job dev for making the mother saying : " I won't try to make you jealous " (or something like that), but again, it failed. What's important is how the player (who hate NTR of course) is feeling, so you have to choose the best words when you give an explanation and not letting any "hole" in it.


And now, something that I really didn't understand is : why the incest subject is not asked ?
Well, I know, for the patreon rules, they are landlady, roommate, and shit, but seriously... we all know there are family, so...
I mean, it can work if you made the MC asking something like " : But how... Samantha is your "tenant"/"daughter" how can you have sex with her " etc.
That is, in my opinion, the very first question the MC should have asked. But again, nothing about that. How the new society introduced the " legal incest " ? How the family felt when they understood that they can have sex with each other ? And most importantly, how could they have sex with each other ?
It not because the society is telling you that you can fuck your family that it's means you will be able to do it. How they passed through the moral barrier ? I had the feeling that the women had been "convinced" too easily.
That's the thing that should have been discussed in the story, in priority.

Well, I guess we will know about that in the next update, " the ceremony " where all the secrets will be revealed. But it's when the mom and sister agreed to help the MC that it was the moment to explain it. It a very important subject.

So yeah, there are things who are inconsistant in the family's behavior, about the society and how it works.

And finaly : the MC.
Too " beta ", too " forviging " while it's pretty obvious that it's should be so much better for him to leave this shitty family forever.
I really have a hard time to follow that MC because he is too " unreal ".
The first time he sees his mother and sister making out and more, the first reaction is almost : " Ohhhh. I didn't expect that. But my tv show is about to start, so... I have no time to think about the biggest secret of this family and how I should suddently feel uneasy".
He was like : " I wonder what they will show me next ". Just that ?! Dam, dude, are you sure you are not in a cancer's terminal stage ?
It's really hard. And inconsistant. It's not good. He doesn't ask the right questions, he " adapts " too easily. And when he has the sense to ask a good question, the others are just telling " we can't answer you ". Why ? It's just talk. Are you not here to help him ? Just explain to him already ! Proove to the player that your are a little usefull, you slut.
And what about the drug ? Seriously, you will make the MC uses it ? For what ? Some " sleep sex " ? You want to make him a rapist ? Please, no...

Of course, I get the idea of the dev : jump as soon as possible at sex scenes. It's normal, everyone does that. But... sigh


So, in the end, what about the game ?
I don't like to said it when you see the efforts of the dev, but that rewrite was not enough. I don't know how was the game before but, it has to be redone again.
I really don't want to demotivate the dev, but the story is already collapsing. Clearly, he didn't think enough about it.
The new society that legalize incest and let people have sex freely when and where they want is the key point of the game. It has to be solid as a rock and it can"t left the player " unsatisfied " with its managment. After all, they are number of people who thought and adjust that system as things progressed.

About the story, if the dev want to keep it like that, there is only the exile for the MC. It's his last chance to show us that his family doesn't deserve him, in any case.
When the ceremony his over and when his family is watching him and waiting for some sentense like " I accept the society's rules ", let the MC said " No, that's sucks like hell, I choose to join Dawn in exile !!" and when he is going, make him do a middle finger to his family members and said " Now you don't need the drugs anymore, you filthy traitors. I hope you will die soon."
Let the MC go in exile. Blow up everyone expectations, and make the family live hell and feel real remorse. Make them feel so bad that they would start to think that it would be better for all of them to commit suicide. Make them really realise how shity they were with the MC and make them cry for months. Make them lift mountains, do the impossible just for having a chance to talk with the MC. Make them feeling so bad that they can't have sex anymore ! They deserve nothing else than that !
Maybe the mother will start thinking about how it was not that necessary to have sex with all mc's acquintances. (Sorry but I can't pass the principal and coach and all...)
Maybe the sister will realise that KO the MC was the biggest mistake of her life.
Maybe the whole family will fiiiiinaly start to think how unworthy of the MC they are.


I really want to like the game. I'm not even joking, I really want it.
For now it's impossible, it's too scattered. The whole family is dispicable, and the free sex thing is just making things worse, that's ironic.
We all realize that society can't exist, even with all the good will, because it has too many holes int it.


TGO Entertainment

Do you need any help with your story ? I'm seriously asking. If it's the case, feel free to ask me in PM. Because I want to see this game working.
You are creating a new " world " with a new society and all, I like that, count me in anytime ! I will be glad to help.


And for others who will quote my post to give their opinion, I won't answer to " big debate ", because it takes all my energy to make this comment, and I don't have the heart to answer (and because it's already 5:15 AM in my country)

Good night to you all. Love you.

 

[Scaffie]

Your comment is so long dude but the point of your message is the same complaint that other people have brought up before again and again the drugging issue. To be honest in this new rewrite the son does get upset about the whole drugging thing and the mom and sister are sorry but its part of the culture of this world the plot explains it. The mom and sister will go on to make up for the stuff that has happend so far.

He already got allot of help and feedback from people like me. As far as i know there will be minor things fixed but for the most part the game is moving forward to the next chapter. I had some talks with the dev and all i can say is the game is good just wait and play more of it when the next chapter drops. This is coming from a guy myself that doesnt like ntr or sharing i play it for the mom incest stuff so see what happens.

So, you don't play for the story and that move on so fast like flash...
Arassei
I'm glad someone think like me, i play the 2 versions but quit after dinner, because that forgiveness was so unreal, i feel rage only to think about again, ok if you have a option to forgive like that, but if this is a game of choices, i choose don't forgive for now, bring more to the game, more drama, more rage, like i said in my previous posts...

 

[Demoness_Kiss]

i mean Arassei is not wrong, and i'm happy that he wrote that text-wall because it's the good kind of feedback, the kind that you can learn something from it.