VN Ren'Py Abandoned The City of Promise [Ch.1 Remake Bugfix] [TGO Entertainment]

[clowns234]

Heya,

... Heya, heya, heya.... pff, I really don't know.

I played for the first time just here, so I'm not aware of a previous version of the game.

I would like to tell what I think, but it's not easy. It's obvious that the Dev makes efforts for the story, so... For once, I will try to be " nice ".

First, most of my point of view is the one of a pure NTR-hater.
Before you starting to yell " there is no NTR in this game ", well... it's true, and it's not true at the same time.

First, I really didn't like the fact that the MC is getting over all of it so "easily".
- He discovered his whole family drugged him just to have sex, like a bunch of sluts, just for not to be bothered.
- His own mother, his own family agreed to drugged him.
- As he didn't eat the drugged cake, his own sister knocked him out.
- After KO the MC, the whole family just went to have a group sex and didn't gave a dam about the fact they hurted the MC to the point to make him unconscious.
- Tomorrow, they were just two women smilling at the MC like nothing happened.

My NTR point of view is because it was the same feeling. Not " jealousy ", because the dev made the women said that they can't wait to tell the MC about it, so, they wanted to tell him. But it was " betrayal ", " unfairness", " injustice" that I felt, because :
1) The MC didn't really do something about that.
2) How they dared to do that to him ? How horrible his family is ?

But I will explain my points more in details :

- He discovered his whole family drugged him just to have sex, like a bunch of sluts, just for not be bothered.
I want to say that if he didn't discovered it, how many times again his family would have drugged him after this one ?
The Dev made them said it was only " two time" (I don't know if the failure is counted as one of them), but you can feel that the Dev didn't want to make them too " sluts ". Unfortunately, it didn't work, because... well must I say it ? They drugged him, they did it. They admit it themselves that it was just to be " not bothered " by him. Not bothered ? Seriously ? It's your own son/brother/nephew/cousin! Come on!
There is absolutely no excuse for that.
Why they need this drug ? Why they don't go at the hotel or whatever ?
In a society where you can have sex with the first stranger you accros in the streets, the hotels are not something "important"?

- His own mother, his own family agreed to drug him.
That's just awful ! How can the dev decided to go with that story ?
The " remorses " they show after that is not convincing at all ! It remembers me " My new Family " when the mother said she was soooo saaad for abandoning her own son. But I didn't feel anything. I didn't feel any remorse, I didn't feel any one of these traitors feeling like shit. The empathy for the MC is just non-existent.
Nowhere in the game I read " Yeah, in fact, we didn't have a lot of sex because we weren't in the mood because we felt bad about you...". No, nothing like that. ZERO. They didn't give a dam about it.
That " drug " part is really toxic for the story. It clearly didn't need it. It make it soooo much worse.

- As he didn't eat the drugged cake, his own sister knocked him out.
Worst. Sister. Ever.
How can the MC even think about forgiving her ? Just that scene should have made the MC choose to go in exile. Just because of that.
What if she actually hurted him really bad ? Or maybe kill him by accident ? How even she dared to think about just doing it ?
And again, no remorse.
No, no... it doesn't work. At all. That part needs to be removed.

- After KO the MC, the whole family just went to have a group sex and didn't gave a dam about the fact they hurted the MC to the point to make him unconscious.
That's why I said they are a bunch of sluts. Nobody cares about the MC, and all of them went into a lesbian orgy.
WORSE OF THAT, the mother just admit it with a fucking smile on her face!
" Oh yeah the night you found about us, we all went in the room to have sex together ". Just die already, you fake mom!
DEV ! How is that even possible ? How can you valid that story in your mind ?
Honestly, why the MC didn't destroyed everything around him ? How can he feels okay after he heard that shoking truth ?
The family should have been devasted ! The only person they have to hide the secret from has discovered them! How will he react after seeing his family having sex together ? What consequences it would have for them for not telling him earlier ? How betrayed he would feel ? So much important questions that should have passed trough their head. Their " calm " an " cool " sex-world just blow up to their face in an instant. How can even they in the mood to having sex like nothing happened ?
MC's only reaction should have been " So, if I understand it clearly, you whore, after KO me, you just put me in my bed and went into an orgy and forgot about me ? "
The mom : "... eh.... well... you know... "
First, you slap the mother's face. And not lighty please. After that : " You, my mother, and them, my sister, my aunt, my cousin, you are the worst family ever. I will choose the exile and nobody will be able to stop me ". END.

- Tomorrow, they were just two women smilling at the MC like nothing happened.
No sadness (make the mom looks the ground is clearly not enough), no "real" excuses, no fucking "good" explanation, no... nothing. The MC even wondered if it wasn't a dream.
I say it again, the family should have been devasted.
Devasted for the betrayal, devasted for hurting him (a very important person, as a rare male in this society), devasted by everything he discovered. The aunt and the cousin weren't even here to support! What the hell is that?! Seriously!

That's all fror theses point.

Now, I would like to explain something again, with the NTR-point of view :
The women of this game are reaaaally a bunch of sluts. You can't just reveal the truth of the biggest secret of the society and just after that, saying that you fucked your son's principal, coach, family, etc...
If you want to said that, you must have a " family reunion ", something who gave the player a feeling of " something important will be said, so stay focused !" And there is nothing like that in the game.
We understand, as players, that if the sex is " so free " (to the point to accepting incest), well, they will have sex ! No shit, Sherlock !
What didn't make me yell like a giant grizzly was the fact that the dev tried to minimize the dammages. That was something "good". It was not enough, but I felt the intention.
Exemple : the mother said she only met five men in her life (or something like that), it was " good"
she said she had sex with all of them, it was " bad" (and speaking of that, they were all the five with her ? It was a gangbang ? I hope not, or the mother's image will be completely destroyed for me...)
Another exemple : The sister only have " one " real boyfriend. And now she hates him. Good.
She says a little too much how much she carred about him (bad)( I felt most love for her boyfriend than for the MC who was drugged and KO)
Another thing is : they are speaking too much about their past sex-life. Too much. I know it's just for showing some lesbian scenes (always appreciated, and again, I applaud the dev for no showing scene with another man than the MC), but take the place of the MC just one second :
You think your family is normal, and tomorrow, you hear that they are having sex with half of the city, behind your back. Your mother at her work (the excuse of "I have needs" doesn't work, it failed), and with your teachers, principal, etc...
And your whole family is like that.
Honestly, you really don't think that your family is just trying to make you jealous and they are not a bunch of sluts ? What family is happy to tell you how much of used good they are and you will never be able to experiment something new with them ?
That's the NTR-vibe of the game : your family has " too much " experience and show it off, and it's unfair for you who have " nothing". More of that, your first experience is with your family, and not with someone who have " nothing" either. The sex in this society is " too free" and not well " managed " to prevent the player from feeling this unfairness.
Of course, and again, good job dev for making the mother saying : " I won't try to make you jealous " (or something like that), but again, it failed. What's important is how the player (who hate NTR of course) is feeling, so you have to choose the best words when you give an explanation and not letting any "hole" in it.


And now, something that I really didn't understand is : why the incest subject is not asked ?
Well, I know, for the patreon rules, they are landlady, roommate, and shit, but seriously... we all know there are family, so...
I mean, it can work if you made the MC asking something like " : But how... Samantha is your "tenant"/"daughter" how can you have sex with her " etc.
That is, in my opinion, the very first question the MC should have asked. But again, nothing about that. How the new society introduced the " legal incest " ? How the family felt when they understood that they can have sex with each other ? And most importantly, how could they have sex with each other ?
It not because the society is telling you that you can fuck your family that it's means you will be able to do it. How they passed through the moral barrier ? I had the feeling that the women had been "convinced" too easily.
That's the thing that should have been discussed in the story, in priority.

Well, I guess we will know about that in the next update, " the ceremony " where all the secrets will be revealed. But it's when the mom and sister agreed to help the MC that it was the moment to explain it. It a very important subject.

So yeah, there are things who are inconsistant in the family's behavior, about the society and how it works.

And finaly : the MC.
Too " beta ", too " forviging " while it's pretty obvious that it's should be so much better for him to leave this shitty family forever.
I really have a hard time to follow that MC because he is too " unreal ".
The first time he sees his mother and sister making out and more, the first reaction is almost : " Ohhhh. I didn't expect that. But my tv show is about to start, so... I have no time to think about the biggest secret of this family and how I should suddently feel uneasy".
He was like : " I wonder what they will show me next ". Just that ?! Dam, dude, are you sure you are not in a cancer's terminal stage ?
It's really hard. And inconsistant. It's not good. He doesn't ask the right questions, he " adapts " too easily. And when he has the sense to ask a good question, the others are just telling " we can't answer you ". Why ? It's just talk. Are you not here to help him ? Just explain to him already ! Proove to the player that your are a little usefull, you slut.
And what about the drug ? Seriously, you will make the MC uses it ? For what ? Some " sleep sex " ? You want to make him a rapist ? Please, no...

Of course, I get the idea of the dev : jump as soon as possible at sex scenes. It's normal, everyone does that. But... sigh


So, in the end, what about the game ?
I don't like to said it when you see the efforts of the dev, but that rewrite was not enough. I don't know how was the game before but, it has to be redone again.
I really don't want to demotivate the dev, but the story is already collapsing. Clearly, he didn't think enough about it.
The new society that legalize incest and let people have sex freely when and where they want is the key point of the game. It has to be solid as a rock and it can"t left the player " unsatisfied " with its managment. After all, they are number of people who thought and adjust that system as things progressed.

About the story, if the dev want to keep it like that, there is only the exile for the MC. It's his last chance to show us that his family doesn't deserve him, in any case.
When the ceremony his over and when his family is watching him and waiting for some sentense like " I accept the society's rules ", let the MC said " No, that's sucks like hell, I choose to join Dawn in exile !!" and when he is going, make him do a middle finger to his family members and said " Now you don't need the drugs anymore, you filthy traitors. I hope you will die soon."
Let the MC go in exile. Blow up everyone expectations, and make the family live hell and feel real remorse. Make them feel so bad that they would start to think that it would be better for all of them to commit suicide. Make them really realise how shity they were with the MC and make them cry for months. Make them lift mountains, do the impossible just for having a chance to talk with the MC. Make them feeling so bad that they can't have sex anymore ! They deserve nothing else than that !
Maybe the mother will start thinking about how it was not that necessary to have sex with all mc's acquintances. (Sorry but I can't pass the principal and coach and all...)
Maybe the sister will realise that KO the MC was the biggest mistake of her life.
Maybe the whole family will fiiiiinaly start to think how unworthy of the MC they are.


I really want to like the game. I'm not even joking, I really want it.
For now it's impossible, it's too scattered. The whole family is dispicable, and the free sex thing is just making things worse, that's ironic.
We all realize that society can't exist, even with all the good will, because it has too many holes int it.


TGO Entertainment

Do you need any help with your story ? I'm seriously asking. If it's the case, feel free to ask me in PM. Because I want to see this game working.
You are creating a new " world " with a new society and all, I like that, count me in anytime ! I will be glad to help.


And for others who will quote my post to give their opinion, I won't answer to " big debate ", because it takes all my energy to make this comment, and I don't have the heart to answer (and because it's already 5:15 AM in my country)

Good night to you all. Love you.

I also had initial problems with this game, especially the original. I have made several comments about that.
One 'rational' explanation I can see is that the women have been genetically modified. As for the drugging, I can accept that their post-apocalyptic morality is not what we have today. The fact that they showed some regret (even though after the fact) shows that there is still some internal conflict. We'll see where the Dev takes it from here.
I do love the concept and I do look forward to seeing where it goes from here.

 

[Arassei]

Your comment is so long dude but the point of your message is the same complaint that other people have brought up before again and again the drugging issue. To be honest in this new rewrite the son does get upset about the whole drugging thing and the mom and sister are sorry but its part of the culture of this world the plot explains it. The mom and sister will go on to make up for the stuff that has happend so far.

He already got allot of help and feedback from people like me. As far as i know there will be minor things fixed but for the most part the game is moving forward to the next chapter. I had some talks with the dev and all i can say is the game is good just wait and play more of it when the next chapter drops. This is coming from a guy myself that doesnt like ntr or sharing i play it for the mom incest stuff so see what happens.

Ehehe, yeah it was pretty long. Maybe the longest comment I ever wrote on this forum, but it's just a proof that I'm concerned about this game. I really want it to work. It takes me 3 hours to make it, because I had to remember a lot of things and tried to make my points clear enough, but it was worth it.

The players are complaining about the drug thing, well they are right, they noticed that it brings nothing else than bad thing.

I see, so it's the difference with the last version.
Well, again, it doesn't work. How can a family accept to drug one of this family's member without starting a revolution against the society ? That's too unreal... The drug thing didn't work at all.

That is something I wanted to talk about yesterday but, my review was already this long : the dev needs to be careful about the cliffhanger and the things that he want us to " wait " in the next update.
After all, none of us want a new Chasing Sunset disaster again.

If the dev is really planning to move on from that point, well there is only the exile for the MC. If not, the game will become unbereable in the long term.

this is a porn game some people espect evrything to make sense

Well, yeah... otherwise, why bother to make a game ? And why we would have to bother to read it ? Wouldn't it be easier just to watch porn on internet, then ? It doesn't need a story there.
A game needs a story, a good one. It's not because it's for porn that you can just be lazy about it.
I don't know for others but in my case, if I clear a porn game with a good story, I will play it again. And when the dev will start to make a new game, I will pay attention to it.

I'm glad someone think like me, i play the 2 versions but quit after dinner, because that forgiveness was so unreal, i feel rage only to think about again

I know, right ? Just remember it makes me upset too. It's just... wrong.

One 'rational' explanation I can see is that the women have been genetically modified. As for the drugging, I can accept that their post-apocalyptic morality is not what we have today.

If you try to say that being genetically modified make them agreed to drug the MC or KO him... I'm pretty sure the dev didn't thing that far. And it still doesn't work. There would have manifestations on the streets and the new society would be crushed to death...
But if you want to say that being genetically modified make them accept "incest" in an easier way... hm... it's open to discussion, but again, I'm sure the dev didn't think that far. It would be just a happy coincidence, for me.

i mean Arassei is not wrong, and i'm happy that he wrote that text-wall because it's the good kind of feedback, the kind that you can learn something from it.

And that's why I said earlier that the long comment was worth it !
Demoness_Kiss... The man (or woman) who always facepalm me on other topics.
Not only, for the first time today, you liked one of them, but you even said something nice about it.
Is it my birthday or something ?

THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is my big achievement of the day !

Demoness_Kiss in the pocket ! HA !

 

[Demoness_Kiss]

And that's why I said earlier that the long comment was worth it !
Demoness_Kiss... The man (or woman) who always facepalm me on other topics.
Not only, for the first time today, you liked one of them, but you even said something nice about it.
Is it my birthday or something ?

THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is my big achievement of the day !

Demoness_Kiss in the pocket ! HA !

Long post again, so i'll keep only the part about me in the quote(otherwise my mouse-wheel will break very soon XD)

I'm making a compliment because that post, can be used for feedbacks, the dev can read it and learn and improve his content. It's a well-written post that explains pretty much everything that may need a change or a total rewrite.

I shared some thoughts in private with the dev, (he didn't tell me to keep our chat a secret so i will share some of those thoughts XD), but he is still thinking about chapter 1 a lot...he wants to move to chapter 2, but the chapter 1 is still tormenting him...with doubts

We shared some ideas and in the end...whatever he will do, it's his choice.

 

[Demoness_Kiss]

Yeah those doubts are here beceause some people cant move on about even the tought a drug being in a game this not a big deal and can be further fixed and explained later in the game.

The dev is a chill guy he doesnt need this he already rewrote it and he cant keep doing that. If he stil wants to change it then im fine with that but i think what we have now can work even you agreed to that before cause his other ideas to replace the drug thing with werent better so far you know that.

FIne, we shared our thoughts BUT not every body did...i'll bet Susan's boobs that when this game will be more popular, new players will also share their thoughts on the drug-thing...so you wanna stop them from sharing their opinions? as far as laws can go, there is still freedom of speech and expression. Let them speak

I made a compliment for Arassei 's post because it's complete, it has everything we all said so far(on the things we think are negative and need improvement)

i gave the dev ideas to improve that thing, you what did you propose? We both know what you asked...and i won't be the one that will say it...

You wanna talk about something else? give us an argument...at least we're sharing thoughts so far....some are helpful, some are so bloody stupid that even a saint like me(trust me, i'm being an asshole in this thread but because i reached my limit very fast, which is a record) is facepalming

Ehy, let's talk about why MC's cake didn't have a strawberry on top! XD or why MC's room doesn't have a poster of Jotaro Kujo and Star Platinum! that's an outrage! XD

 

[Demoness_Kiss]

People can do as they please i never said they cant speak but i can respond to their complaints cant i ? Just hearing the same thing so many times was just a little annoying to me. Also im not gonna do it for evry comment and at this point im done on the issue of drugs im not gonna respond to it anymore for now. I just dont want to dev to feel bad and give up on the game.

Also i just wish people read a little back and see how many people already talked about it but ohwel.

Also then what dith i ask then ? I prefer full solo routes i talked more to the dev about it and eventualy accepted it how he is gonna do it. You complain yourself about more things than me. Also my convos with him are private.

But sure talk about anything els that would be nice.

you asked for 12 different endings, one for each girl, just to have your MCxSusan's ending...then add the harem ending...you're asking an inexperienced dev to make 13 endings...while even a good developer can barely handle like 5 endings in a reasonable amount of time

 

[Arassei]

Demoness_Kiss
Welbord

It's pretty obvious there are some issues between your group. It's not of my business so I won't ask, but if you want to share with me, feel free to do so.

For me, the game needs to be rewrited. Again.
And trust me, if I would be glad that some other Devs could just stop their shitty games, it's really not the case here.
It's really not my wish to see this dev stops this game.

But the game, the story, needs rewrite.
The drug part is a complete no-no. Whatever the explanation you will give later, it won't work. It will never works.
The drug part is one of the things that cause the family to betray the MC. You can't just call that " no big deal ".

And again, I'm totally okay to help the dev, if he wants it.
- keeping the society with the free sex and incest
- strengthening the society's rules, and make them clear like cristal in this first chapter.
- explaning how the incest part came in the society.
- changing the inconsistant and dispicable family's behavior into a family who deserves the MC.
- Making the women of the family a little less " sluts" to avoid NTR-vibes.
- Keeping the majority of the lesbian scenes
- Bringing justice to MC, if needed, and making him having balls.


Well, after that, maybe I'm just too late on this topic ?
You two already shared your thought with the dev, and he already changed the story once.

Oh yeah ! There is something I didn't understand in the game.
Samantha was not in home for a long time, because she was in college, right ?
So, the first time we see her in the game, is it the first time she returns home ?
If its the case, it didn't bother anyone on how it was easy for the mom and daughter to make out and more ? It wasn't their first time, then ? Like the mom who already know the story of Samantha and her boyfriend.
My memory is a little blurry, so... I prefer to ask for confirmation.

 

[vall6269]

Tried out because I like the engine but I kind of regret. The story feels forced, being drugged while your relatives just go to have sex, this is really NTR-like. Only leaving a bittersweet taste when you play, and as mentioned by someone earlier, they're just all mindless crazy sluts

It could really use a rewrite (once more), so we'll see in the future, but good luck to the devs.

 

[Larry2000]

I mean they dont fuck other guys ? its just them girls eventho im not a fan of that either its part of their society they need some way to get off you know before the start of the game the mc was to young to join. Now that mc is in the world fucking them they will be loyal to him this game has game has no ntr unless you feel like that girls doing stuff with eachother is ntr .

I do think some small things will be fixed but the dev is moving foward for the most part its his game and his world. I like this game allot.

I'm just scrolling, trying to figure out why I opened a tab to this game. It's interesting for sure. I respect a dev that can see mistakes in their work and make (like Michael Jackson) that change. However, I'll point out one thing that didn't make sense from what you said:

its just them girls eventho im not a fan of that either its part of their society they need some way to get off you know before the start of the game the mc was to young to join.

???? I don't know about you, but if I'm in a post apocalyptic civilization with my mother and sister, I won't go "whelp, I'm not getting any, better fuck my mom and sister!" It's porn logic, but you said it like it was a no brainer. haha!
Also, there are other ways than fucking your own family. Masturbation is a thing and most people don't have to resort to raping others or fucking their family when not getting "some." But then again, maybe this world is different.

 

[clowns234]

I'm just scrolling, trying to figure out why I opened a tab to this game. It's interesting for sure. I respect a dev that can see mistakes in their work and make (like Michael Jackson) that change. However, I'll point out one thing that didn't make sense from what you said:


???? I don't know about you, but if I'm in a post apocalyptic civilization with my mother and sister, I won't go "whelp, I'm not getting any, better fuck my mom and sister!" It's porn logic, but you said it like it was a no brainer. haha!
Also, there are other ways than fucking your own family. Masturbation is a thing and most people don't have to resort to raping others or fucking their family when not getting "some." But then again, maybe this world is different.

I think most guys would fuck their mom or sister *IF* they were raised in a society where that was 'normal'. But that's just my opinion.
But in this game, it appears that the MC was raised where that was not the case. They routinely drug those not old enough to keep them from finding out that wild orgies are the norm.
Other things you learn early on: People have been and continue to be modified genetically to make them more 'sexual' beings. And those who don't want to live this 'orgy' lifestyle can choose to be exiled. So we might find out that they are all just guinea pigs in some wild scientific experiment.

 

[vall6269]

I mean they dont fuck other guys ? its just them girls

...why wouldn't NTR be possible with female-female action? This still gives a NTR-vibe, no matter what sex they are, my opinion is still valid on that
Maybe I am just not sensitive enough but a society where you're drugged so your relatives go on huge orgies just isn't for me

 

[Osamabeenfappin]

Yo they stuck needle full of drugs into the MC's neck,while he was running upstairs,so they could fuck.

If i was the MC,id be like Exile please.

 

[Demoness_Kiss]

Yo they stuck needle full of drugs into the MC's neck,while he was running upstairs,so they could fuck.

If i was the MC,id be like Exile please.

things are changing tho...so please let's wait until the next update...but honestly? something fucked up MUST happen, either we like it or not...without drama there will be no story

let's take my favourite VN: My New Family, MC goes back to his mother, discovers that he has sisters, and there is the initial drama of MC trying to deal with his emotional problems, or trying to get along with Lucy and connect with his aunt and cousin and reconnect with his own mother, then we'll have some random events like Sandra's bestfriend or the otakus from the store, then we've little Alice and her issues then MC's father's death(and everything related to that), after that there is the funny drama of the girls wanting kids and Lucy's cat's powers XD

 

[Osamabeenfappin]

things are changing tho...so please let's wait until the next update...but honestly? something fucked up MUST happen, either we like it or not...without drama there will be no story

let's take my favourite VN: My New Family, MC goes back to his mother, discovers that he has sisters, and there is the initial drama of MC trying to deal with his emotional problems, or trying to get along with Lucy and connect with his aunt and cousin and reconnect with his own mother, then we'll have some random events like Sandra's bestfriend or the otakus from the store, then we've little Alice and her issues then MC's father's death(and everything related to that), after that there is the funny drama of the girls wanting kids and Lucy's cat's powers XD

Im just saying thats some shitty self absorbed hoe like behaviour from the MC's family.

Also this is shaping up to be a lesbian fuck fest,so i doubt its for me.

I'll probably peep chapter 2,because of curiousity. But i dont have super high hopes.

 

[Demoness_Kiss]

Im just saying thats some shitty self absorbed hoe like behaviour from the MC's family.

Also this is shaping up to be a lesbian fuck fest,so i doubt its for me.

I'll probably peep chapter 2,because of curiousity. But i dont have super high hopes.

I underlined the sentence i'm about to answer: i mean...harems are about one guy surrounded by many women craving for his affection and love(and sex ofc)...and usually a harem-master likes when his women get along which it means that some lesbian-scenes will happen anyway...unless MC develops like 12 dicks and learns to use them all at the same time XD

 

[Osamabeenfappin]

I underlined the sentence i'm about to answer: i mean...harems are about one guy surrounded by many women craving for his affection and love(and sex ofc)...and usually a harem-master likes when his women get along which it means that some lesbian-scenes will happen anyway...unless MC develops nlike 12 dicks and learns to use them all at the same time XD

I personally despise lesbianism in games,its boring AF. These are pixels,not the Ortega twins.

 

[clowns234]

To be honest guys another update or not i already know that some people will just not like how the game is set up or will have complaints about other stuff they dont like. There are so many games i dont play on this site and there are so many games i do play if you dont like this game then dont play it but if you are stil interested then wait until the next update some things will be fixed and other things will be added after talking allot with the dev i feel like its going to be good. Lets stay postive here for the dev he does listen he already dith a whole rewrite for people.

Side note there will be solo scenes for the girls with the mc that i know for sure almost so no lesbian stuff will be forced moving forward.

I hope the Dev doesn't start cutting out scenes simply because some people don't like them. With such a high ratio of women to men, it would seem strange to the story if they suddenly stopped altogether. Let's be honest, one guy would never be able to satisfy that many women.

 

[Warhawk1]

I'm usually all for incest/Harem stories..But this just doesn't do it for me.Sister being a bitch because some guy left her ,she drugs mc so she can fuck somebody etc etc.GL to the dev tho

 

[Demoness_Kiss]

I'm usually all for incest/Harem stories..But this just doesn't do it for me.Sister being a bitch because some guy left her ,she drugs mc so she can fuck somebody etc etc.GL to the dev tho

although, the dev is changing some stuff while we speak...so GL to you

 

[Warhawk1]

although, the dev is changing some stuff while we speak...so GL to you

That's good then..I thought this'll be it since the current version is a re-write.

 

[Demoness_Kiss]

That's good then..I thought this'll be it since the current version is a re-write.

yeah but the dev has some doubts and trying stuff...so something may change...