VN Ren'Py Abandoned The City of Promise [Ch.1 Remake Bugfix] [TGO Entertainment]

[Osamabeenfappin]

You don't need to accept their morals - just understand why theirs might be different.
Put yourself in someone else's shoes.

That would be a lot easier if it was a logically consistent world,and it wasn't full of rampant dumbassery,and douchebag-ery

 

[clowns234]

That would be a lot easier if it was a logically consistent world,and it wasn't full of rampant dumbassery,and douchebag-ery

What logic would a messed up futuristic society that has genetically bimbo-fide women follow?

BTW, I was one of the first people to trash the original because I did find it illogical (I compared it to being waterboarded). But the dev has changed some stuff and has explained a lot more of what he is going for - so I'm sticking around.

 

[myself]

Why dont we all wait for the next release the dev cleary said he heard evrybody their opnions so im sure he will keep improving. But im sure some people will keep not liking the game cause its not for evrybody. I replayed the game a couple of times and i told the dev my opnion aswell of evrything i tought was wrong or weird will see what he does but i have my hope in him he is a good person and the game is only just starting the mc is going to have allot more fun i can tell you that.

Also im cerious who is you guys favorite girl for the mc guy ? for me its the mom im a guy who plays these games for the mom and son incest always.

Me too specially if the "landlady" is a Busty curvy milf, the only thing missing here in this game (but i kinda understand lore wise why), is the typcial inner moral struggle that she normaly has to undergo starting with initial self justifications of her action in her own mind as she slowly looses to her lust..

 

[v1900]

Why dont we all wait for the next release the dev cleary said he heard evrybody their opnions so im sure he will keep improving. But im sure some people will keep not liking the game cause its not for evrybody. I replayed the game a couple of times and i told the dev my opnion aswell of evrything i tought was wrong or weird will see what he does but i have my hope in him he is a good person and the game is only just starting the mc is going to have allot more fun i can tell you that.

Also im cerious who is you guys favorite girl for the mc guy ? for me its the mom im a guy who plays these games for the mom and son incest always.

I would have to say paradoxically that no one and all at the same time. I quite like the aesthetic quality of the 4 women as just meat for the porn grinder but loath all of them (at least the 4 that we know). If you are familiar with Huxley's "Brave New World", it is something like the relation between John and Lenina. I actually suspect that the dev may have read that book.

I will have to wait to see if we get more depth to the characters to make them more relatable, as it stands they are a bunch of self-centered hedonists (it appears that is the norm in their society). If going for looks alone I am between the sister and the aunt.

 

[v1900]

Hey evrybody has a certain taste for witch girls they like the most for now i can say the dev intends to do better moving forward for the characters but its only been 1 chapter and a little of 6 chapters will see more of the mom and the family and some other girls im gonna asume female school friends ?maybe a teacher ? A mother of the friends ? The main bad guy who is probs a woman ? There could be 12 girls in this game but will see i tought that was allot smaller cast is better but ohwel i would not have mind if the game was only about the mom and family.

Yes I suspect that the one I will like is MC's best friend if only because she may not be just looking for sex and be in the same situation as the MC.

 

[Demoness_Kiss]

Personally i didn't want to share my opinion on the matter because i didn't want to XD(but changed my mind)

Susan: Meh, usually i'm all for the "sweet adorable caring woman who is basically a housewife" but the drugging and how it gets shrugged off easily...don't allow me to really enjoy her

Samantha: if only her ego wasn't so bloody big...when you answer wrong to her yoga mini-game(when you ask about her past) she can't stop from teasing and mocking MC...it's frustrating because MC still didn't begin to experiment with sex and lust and all that stuff, but Samantha(not much older than MC...apparently) brags like a pornstar or a sex-guru...while WE know that she simply fucked around...her ego is so big that probably has its own house(under the actual house) and lives there XD

Nancy: the Submissive of the family, i guess...i mean edging? That's something you do to your sub, to tease them and make them beg for the sweet release of the orgasm...i'm neutral about her(because she didn't have enough screen time so far)

Alison: Nancy's daughter...she is the hacker... but my opinion is the same i have for her mother, i'm neutral about her for the same reasons...so yeah i've no opinions about her and Nancy...

 

[myself]

I think in this world incest and inbreeding might not be that uncommen i mean she already had a orgy with the rest of her familey so on that part there doesnt seem struggle but i do get what your saying.

I do remember from talking to the dev and without spoiling anything that the relationship with his mom will delevop more leading to some fun conclusions.

I also look forward to the impregnation and vaginal pregnant sex with the mom and more. Pregnancy should happen if your into that.

Also looking forward to finding out what happend to the mc son dad and the other men.

i mean the ultimate goal to me in this sort of game is a final full all out incestual harem of preggy breast expanded lactating bisexual older female family members (mom, aunts, older cousins, older sisters and other busty preggy milfs/oneasans) orgy where they climax all simultaneously in a climatic squirting mindbreaking ahegao orgasm on our solo Male in all this: "The MC", and with the afterglow where they feverishly completly fallen, corrupted and addicted to ou hero's Holy Spear, they swear their complete love and devotion for ou MC and to each other... the end

 

[myself]

There will be some harem stuff and some solo options if you want to ignore girls atleast thats how i heard it there is 1 overal ending but in the later chapters there will be choices to shape up how the ending will look.

I do like what you said overal nice.

we got some completed game examples close to that (which are my favourites) like: Lust Epidemic, Dreams of Desire, Lab Rats, Sisterly Lust or Man of the House, not all of them tik all criterea but they got close

 

[Norman Knight]

Also im cerious who is you guys favorite girl for the mc guy ? for me its the mom im a guy who plays these games for the mom and son incest always

Im with v1900 on this, i dont like any of them but at the same time i want them all.

Susan; I love milfs, she has the looks I like, she's horny, she WILL get pregnant by me, and she has just enough of a "Nice" feel to her, unfortunately the whole thing with the drug and how she prioritizes Samantha over the MC did leave me with a sour taste, I still want to get her pregnant 12 times if possible but I don't see a real relationship here until she shows some real affection not just lust for the D.

Samantha: oh, you broken child, you, the source of 70% of the drama, I like her design, she's good looking, that I won't deny, but she's responsible for most of this mess, she convinced Susan to have the orgy and to drug the MC, dick move Sam, dick move, to be fair she could be an interesting mother of 8 children, If her ego doesn't get in the way and she shows some actual love that doesn't come with unprovoked teasing, at some point the "Cute Bully" isn't cute anymore.

Nancy: I dint like her at the beginning and I don't like her after playing her content, she has a detached personality that I don't really like, I get the feeling that if you tell her that you don't feel comfortable with all this grooming stuff, she will say "Stop being a pussy and get that dick inside me, I don't have the whole day", she's hot but I don't think she deserves more than 5 kids.

Alison: this one I sort of like, she's the only one that seems to think with her head, sure she WAS part of the whole drugging and lets have and orgy at the living room stuff, but she's working to know more about the society the live in, and at the end of her content in this update I felt some actual affection for a change, keep it up girl, you may have 13 kids if you keep showing me affection.

 

[Norman Knight]

Im honestly happy to see that allot of people stil love the game and its characters.

As for the mom susan you might think she prioritizes the sister but that not acualy true yes she is concernd about her and yes she should have been worried about her son but moving forward as you might already have seen she will do more stuff with the mc and if you want you dont have to share the mom with anybody she will be yours alone she loves cock more then pussy its just that the mc his dad is been gone we dont know what happend to him but the mom is single so we can romance her marry her impregnate her fuck her pussy pregnant and more the dev has some fun plans for susan the mom that i can conferm.

Not sure if you can impregnate her 12 times but maybe 1 or 2 times will see.

I dont have mutch to say about the other girls but they will all bend to the mc his dick.

Yeah the impregnation was more of a running joke but Susan WILL get pregnant, even if it's the last thing I do, that busty Milf will give me daughters

I don't think people actually hated the story, they hated the way it was presented and how the characters just seem to roll with it, from the not so concerned family to the passive and "Trojan horse dildo" MC, I think we all want to have some answers and hopefully bang some busty ladies in more equal terms, so far the MC its the dildo of the family and that I think its what people really "Hate" about this story.

 

[M'95]

I wish my mother had drugged me reguraly when I was younger, it would have saved me a lot of cash...

 

[PeggyBlackett]

Shirley Jackson called - she wants her universe back.

 

[Sarkasmus]

Hey guys i have another question for you what do you think is going to happen next in the game ? Let me hear what you think.

Honestly... I don't know.

A week ago I would have said this:
The training with Susan and Samantha took two weeks, so I'm going to assume the same goes for the training with Nancy and Alison. So by the end of that it's already time for the Ceremony, which (let's be honest here) is not gonna be anything more than a giant orgy, you are finally allowed to partake in. The Ceremony's purpose will be two things...
1. The Arbiter will "sample" you, to make sure you have the qualities needed to be the submissive breeder you are destined to become
2. You will have a go at all your friends and family, to prove you are OK with how this society works.
After that they will send you into exile to get your former classmate(s) back.

But that was before the Dev actually took our discussions into consideration and announced his rewrite. So I got quite enthusiastic about future plot-developements. Can't really speculate where this might go, until that next update is out.

 

[Sarkasmus]

Im sure he is reworking more stuff after hearing all the feedback maybe its enough to replay the whole game again to check out all the new stuff. And there wil also be some new stuff for all the girls i think.

and also to be honest i have no idea what the ceremony is about but knowing this is a porn game im gonna gues sex stuff.

It most certainly will require you to start over.
He posted on Patreon that he's making some major changes to Chapter 1, to change the way the relationship between them is presented. And also introducing some form of Free-Roam Mechanic. If I understood it right, it would be available as soon as you arrive at Nancy's Place. That feature alone will probably require quite a few new variables that are not present in your current save-files.

 

[juan palote]

It most certainly will require you to start over.
He posted on Patreon that he's making some major changes to Chapter 1, to change the way the relationship between them is presented. And also introducing some form of Free-Roam Mechanic. If I understood it right, it would be available as soon as you arrive at Nancy's Place. That feature alone will probably require quite a few new variables that are not present in your current save-files.

You must be joking....

He is going to make the game even worse by adding free roam?

That wasnt the problem with the game at all, it was the MC personality and the story making no sense...

Well, this game is going down the drain pipe really fast.

If free roam is added im out of here. I dont get why Devs do this, every time a poll about it is made sandbox/free roam ALWAYS loses.

 

[juan palote]

He is not joking free roam will be a thing and i think its a good thing.

He will also address the other stuff we never said he would not do that.

Its not a good thing, it never is. No game that has changed to a sandbox/free roam has improved.

He will lose players like myself, that wasnt the issue with the game AT ALL.

But guess he will have to learn by making the mistakes instead of learning by others that did it before

There is a reason why every poll made about it always end the same, with sandbox/free roam losing and people choosing to keep the VN style.

Free roam makes no sense in a game like this one

 

[Sarkasmus]

Its not a good thing, it never is. No game that has changed to a sandbox/free roam has improved.

He will lose players like myself, that wasnt the issue with the game AT ALL.

But guess he will have to learn by making the mistakes instead of learning by others that did it before

There is a reason why every poll made about it always end the same, with sandbox/free roam losing and people choosing to keep the VN style.

Free roam makes no sense in a game like this one

Don't immediately loose it over that. Keep in mind, that "Free Roam" and "Sandbox" are two very different concepts.
According to his patreon-post he plans to use it as an In-Game alternative to Galeries. So if you want to relive the scenes with Susan or Samantha, you would first have to go back to their place. That's not neccessarily a bad thing.

And as I wrote before: He is in the middle of making major changes to Chapter 1, regarding the way these characters behave. I think that sounds quite promising. We will have to see how far he goes with that.

 

[juan palote]

I dont see the problem with free roam i think it makes the game more fun to be able to walk around click on the girls have talk options and i also think you will be able to replay scenes by clicking on them so there is that. I also dont think it will slow down the game there is nothing to worry about he is gonna adress the stuff peopel keep saying over and over he wants the characters to be good.

Whats the fun in pointless clicking? You want to know what it has wrong with it? It completely ruins immersion, that is what is wrong.

Replay scenes are easily done with a simple gallery, which is what most games do because its the better way to do it.

Sandbox/Free roam is a big no for many players, it will hurt the game more than you and the Dev realize.

I think he should collect more feedback, because he is clearly being wrongly advised if he thinks free roam would help his game

 

[juan palote]

Don't immediately loose it over that. Keep in mind, that "Free Roam" and "Sandbox" are two very different concepts.
According to his patreon-post he plans to use it as an In-Game alternative to Galeries. So if you want to relive the scenes with Susan or Samantha, you would first have to go back to their place. That's not neccessarily a bad thing.

And as I wrote before: He is in the middle of making major changes to Chapter 1, regarding the way these characters behave. I think that sounds quite promising. We will have to see how far he goes with that.

Again, if you want replay scenes, you add a Gallery. There is no sense in adding Free Roam. Free Roam is as bad as sandbox because it completely ruins the immersion on the story. You are stupidly clicking a door for no reason. And for what? It doesnt fix any of the issues the game has. The Dev should focus on the game problems instead of adding even more bad things

Its something that will make him lose players, and something that every time a Dev asks about feedback, ALWAYS loses, and for a reason.

For me it would be an instant leave. I have put up with enough sandbox/free roam games over the years on this site, its a big no.

 

[juan palote]

He doesnt know how to make a gallery yet and honestly this not a big issue it changes nothing about the game and story itself its shame if you leave over this but nothing is stopping you. I hope evrybody stays and plays the game.

Changing the gameplay is an even bigger change than changing the story.

And making a Gallery is easy, hell, there are Devs here that asked for help and other Devs gave them the code for it.

I can 100% assure you that everyone will not stay, because many of us that have been around here long enough have been already put up with Free roam/sandbox and avoid those games.

Its a really bad idea that again, solves absolutely none of the issues the game has.

The Dev should really ask for feedback before changing the gameplay so much