I wouldn't count past relationships as NTR as well, untill they are remaining past) thank you for reply.
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That's the one thing I didn't like in the new version. The changes Dev introduced make me now feel like these women actually love MC, instead of just using him for their pleasure.
BUT! I played the romance-route. And when my MC finally got to have Sex with them, the FIRST THING they BOTH did afterwards (while still lying next to MC in bed), was to list off all the other people they are now planning on sleeping with. While showing me imagery that does not involve MC anywhere. That was... a bold move.
So yeah. Susan still acts like the towns mattress on occasion. And it actually felt quite weird. But let's see where dev is planning to go from here
BUT! I played the romance-route. And when my MC finally got to have Sex with them, the FIRST THING they BOTH did afterwards (while still lying next to MC in bed), was to list off all the other people they are now planning on sleeping with. While showing me imagery that does not involve MC anywhere. That was... a bold move.
So yeah. Susan still acts like the towns mattress on occasion. And it actually felt quite weird. But let's see where dev is planning to go from here
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are you talking about the other main girls? yeah i coulda gone without seeing that.That's the one thing I didn't like in the new version. The changes Dev introduced make me now feel like these women actually love MC, instead of just using him for their pleasure.
BUT! I played the romance-route. And when my MC finally got to have Sex with them, the FIRST THING they BOTH did afterwards (while still lying next to MC in bed), was to list off all the other people they are now planning on sleeping with. While showing me imagery that does not involve MC anywhere. That was... a bold move.
So yeah. Susan still acts like the towns mattress on occasion. And it actually felt quite weird. But let's see where dev is planning to go from here
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Other Main girls? I'm talking about Susan and Sam. The ones you start out with, before going to the "Neighbors".
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sorry i shoulda made it clearer.
i meant were you talking about when they were talking about sleeping with the neighbors?
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So lets hope this is the last change to the game
And that we can finally progress the game
All these changes are getting annoying lol we need some progress already
Now even the aunt and cousin stuff is not there anymore
We going backwards in progress instead of forwards
But at least we gotten a bit more info and backstory for the mom and sister
Just hoping this changing things up thing has ended with this and we get some actual much needed new story progress the next update
And that we can finally progress the game
All these changes are getting annoying lol we need some progress already
Now even the aunt and cousin stuff is not there anymore
We going backwards in progress instead of forwards
But at least we gotten a bit more info and backstory for the mom and sister
Just hoping this changing things up thing has ended with this and we get some actual much needed new story progress the next update
Yeah, although the whole "Now that you finally forgave me, I'll just go back to banging everything with a pulse" is extremely romantic... I think this will be the first game I played and I won't touch it's "romance" route ever again...That's the one thing I didn't like in the new version. The changes Dev introduced make me now feel like these women actually love MC, instead of just using him for their pleasure.
BUT! I played the romance-route. And when my MC finally got to have Sex with them, the FIRST THING they BOTH did afterwards (while still lying next to MC in bed), was to list off all the other people they are now planning on sleeping with. While showing me imagery that does not involve MC anywhere. That was... a bold move.
So yeah. Susan still acts like the towns mattress on occasion. And it actually felt quite weird. But let's see where dev is planning to go from here
I really don't get why those two scenes (4 images) were there to be honest. The only thing they did for me, was to... undo what the whole rewrite accomplished, to see them as actual romantic interests. If it wasn't for the visuals, I probably wouldn't have thought they're actually talking about banging other people at that very moment.
"Do you believe they regret what they did? Do you think you should forgive them and be with them? Great! Now let them tell you how they want to fuck other people... right after they had sex with you... to... show you how much they care about you?"
The dev must have a really strong fetish for lesbians, I can't find another explanation.
- May 6, 2017
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I don't think that the problem is the romantic route because If we chose to go for the corruption route instead we still have to hear and see how they will screw around with the rest of the family.
Really? Well, shit... I didn't try that yet. I just wanted to see if the "romance" route got any better after the rewrite and was planning on playing the corruption route tomorrow. That's really disappointing.
- May 6, 2017
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The problem that this new update had been that the dev did not change all the scenes and that is why we still see and hear how both the mother and the sister are going to have sex without the participation of the MC in both routes (romantic and corruption)
To be completely honest with you, I don't think the developer is going to put more scenes of the family fucking each other without the participation of the MC, since there were and there are several criticisms in that regard.
You're probably right (I've been keeping an eye on this thread since the original release), but those two scenes still have the same effect on me. They just make me dislike them both... again. Which is kind of counterintuitive after the dev went over a whole rewrite... or two of them. And what makes it even worse is when they take place. Right after you decide to forgive them!
So, played again. I still feel the same way about the whole drugging thing. Actually, this update made it even stronger. It's highly confusing, because the whole thing is just super inconsistent.
It's not that "oh no drugging so bad can't handle" but that it just doesn't make sense. It's one thing if we're just in a different world with very different morals. If anything, this update pressed that button so hard it cracked the fourth wall. But. But then it does an immediate 180 and suddenly the people in your family - the same ones who just acted in accordance with the fictional society - start going on and on about how horrible it was.
If they think it was horrible, why did they do it? In this update, this also got worse. They drugged you because society says that's okay if they want to get their orgy on, but then immediately called off the orgy. So they just drugged you... for no reason. They drugged you, then talked to you in the morning about what you saw that night. They could have had the discussion the night before, if they hadn't drugged you. It did literally nothing.
Pick something, and stick with it. If they think it's terrible, then don't do it. If they don't think it's terrible, then continue with the orgy, and don't beat yourself for doing something terrible. Treat it like you're dealing with somebody who finds the idea of lunch extremely offensive. If they saw you eating lunch and felt you'd utterly violated their basic human rights, you'd probably feel kinda bad for making them feel so bad. But mostly you'd be confused and not actually sorry for eating lunch, because ya know... it's lunch.
But trying to split this difference is just so hideously inconsistent it makes everything feel fake as fuck. You can't willingly do a thing for little to no reason, and then *immediately* start gushing about what a terrible thing you've done and expect it to feel real. If you see some dude walking down the street having a grand old time, and out of nowhere he just kicks a passing dog as hard as he can, and then a few steps later he suddenly drops to his knees and starts bawling about what an awful person he is... would you take him seriously? At best you'd think he has a serious mental condition and is probably not safe to be around, and at worse you'd think he's a sadistic fuck who is trolling you.
Pick a side. And commit.
Note that you can make this decision per character. If you really want to keeping the drugging thing (seems like it, though considering the whole goal is just let an orgy happen, I'm not entirely sure why), you can make different characters fall on different sides. The character who does the drugging needs to do the whole "it's just lunch tho..." thing. If you want the mom to continue to be against the drugging, she also needs to have not done it even the once before, and also needs to be upset with whoever does the drugging.
But yeah. As is, it feels even faker than the first time. Figure out what you're doing, and *do* it.
It's not that "oh no drugging so bad can't handle" but that it just doesn't make sense. It's one thing if we're just in a different world with very different morals. If anything, this update pressed that button so hard it cracked the fourth wall. But. But then it does an immediate 180 and suddenly the people in your family - the same ones who just acted in accordance with the fictional society - start going on and on about how horrible it was.
If they think it was horrible, why did they do it? In this update, this also got worse. They drugged you because society says that's okay if they want to get their orgy on, but then immediately called off the orgy. So they just drugged you... for no reason. They drugged you, then talked to you in the morning about what you saw that night. They could have had the discussion the night before, if they hadn't drugged you. It did literally nothing.
Pick something, and stick with it. If they think it's terrible, then don't do it. If they don't think it's terrible, then continue with the orgy, and don't beat yourself for doing something terrible. Treat it like you're dealing with somebody who finds the idea of lunch extremely offensive. If they saw you eating lunch and felt you'd utterly violated their basic human rights, you'd probably feel kinda bad for making them feel so bad. But mostly you'd be confused and not actually sorry for eating lunch, because ya know... it's lunch.
But trying to split this difference is just so hideously inconsistent it makes everything feel fake as fuck. You can't willingly do a thing for little to no reason, and then *immediately* start gushing about what a terrible thing you've done and expect it to feel real. If you see some dude walking down the street having a grand old time, and out of nowhere he just kicks a passing dog as hard as he can, and then a few steps later he suddenly drops to his knees and starts bawling about what an awful person he is... would you take him seriously? At best you'd think he has a serious mental condition and is probably not safe to be around, and at worse you'd think he's a sadistic fuck who is trolling you.
Pick a side. And commit.
Note that you can make this decision per character. If you really want to keeping the drugging thing (seems like it, though considering the whole goal is just let an orgy happen, I'm not entirely sure why), you can make different characters fall on different sides. The character who does the drugging needs to do the whole "it's just lunch tho..." thing. If you want the mom to continue to be against the drugging, she also needs to have not done it even the once before, and also needs to be upset with whoever does the drugging.
But yeah. As is, it feels even faker than the first time. Figure out what you're doing, and *do* it.
- Dec 9, 2017
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Yeah i didnt forgive the sister .. Since she was the one who insited on the drug for the mc
But yeah neither the mom figure or the sister figure will make my Love interest cut
Since the sister is clearly still in love with that other guy plus she instigated the drug thing so yeah she gone
And the mom keeps going on and on about the father figure ... While in a older version it was just some random dude
And she even allowed the whole drug thing to happen
Plus the aunt and niece figures .. Dont even see anything wrong with it .. sure they say it was a little bad ... But they didnt really care much about it
At this point its like waiting for that exile girl or maybe one or two classmates since they went through the same bs as the MC
I agree with everyone else saying the changing up the script to serve both sides of fans has just made the story go even weirder
But imo he should just stick with this version and just create new stuff caus we been sitting on this first part for a long time
But yeah neither the mom figure or the sister figure will make my Love interest cut
Since the sister is clearly still in love with that other guy plus she instigated the drug thing so yeah she gone
And the mom keeps going on and on about the father figure ... While in a older version it was just some random dude
And she even allowed the whole drug thing to happen
Plus the aunt and niece figures .. Dont even see anything wrong with it .. sure they say it was a little bad ... But they didnt really care much about it
At this point its like waiting for that exile girl or maybe one or two classmates since they went through the same bs as the MC
I agree with everyone else saying the changing up the script to serve both sides of fans has just made the story go even weirder
But imo he should just stick with this version and just create new stuff caus we been sitting on this first part for a long time
I get that, but I don't think I agree. This is gonna be one of those big sticking points for every single new player. Just look how much of this thread it has dominated. It's just going to constantly be this. I think it's worth taking a little more time to get this to a more consistent place. It doesn't need to make everybody happy, but right now it only seems to make every unhappy in multiple ways.
As you yourself mentioned, this has such a big impact you're basically intent on cutting out all the major LIs because of it. It's not a minor thing.
Though, seeing the way the dev cut the minigames... great idea, but poor execution. He left all the highly gamey dialogue that was supposed to be the introduction/tutorial for the game. Now you're just having a normal talk with somebody, and all the sudden they pop off about quizzing you about shit they said. It's super weird.
Hopefully the dev would put more care into reworking the drugging thing than they did cutting the minigames... (but again, A+ idea on cutting them).
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Didn't forgive mom nor the sister, now people are doing experiments on me, the end. 10/10 game
But to be fair I said before I wasn't even gonna continue playing this cause I really can't stand every single female character in this game, when I heard you will be able to choose the exile, I got interested again and it was kind of disappointing. I understand tho that it would require to essentially make 2 separate games to continue that route and that's not really doable so no biggie.
And for the dev, you need to start moving the story forward now and stop remaking it over and over. I still can't stand being around the LIs in this game even after third remake, you can't please everyone.
But to be fair I said before I wasn't even gonna continue playing this cause I really can't stand every single female character in this game, when I heard you will be able to choose the exile, I got interested again and it was kind of disappointing. I understand tho that it would require to essentially make 2 separate games to continue that route and that's not really doable so no biggie.
And for the dev, you need to start moving the story forward now and stop remaking it over and over. I still can't stand being around the LIs in this game even after third remake, you can't please everyone.
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I agree with what ur saying ... But the dev has been remaking this first part like what 2 or 3 times by now
Its getting to a point that we need some progress tho...
And yes the story is getting more clouded ...Caus the dev is trying to appease everyone... And all it did was even making it worse imo
I could at least forgive the mom in a small way ... But the sister i have zero forgiveness for
But then again if we keep doing remake after remake .. Its gonna take ages to see some actual progress into whats coming next
At this point its like stick with the story or make one last remake
But there comes a point were the dev needs to stick with the path he chosen for his game and progress
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Its not about remaking or not remaking it, its about remaking it and keep the same mistakes.Didn't forgive mom nor the sister, now people are doing experiments on me, the end. 10/10 game
But to be fair I said before I wasn't even gonna continue playing this cause I really can't stand every single female character in this game, when I heard you will be able to choose the exile, I got interested again and it was kind of disappointing. I understand tho that it would require to essentially make 2 separate games to continue that route and that's not really doable so no biggie.
And for the dev, you need to start moving the story forward now and stop remaking it over and over. I still can't stand being around the LIs in this game even after third remake, you can't please everyone.
It doesnt make sense that if you are so valuable in this society, they treat you like they do.
It doesnt make sense that if they can move to places where you cant, they drug you to have an orgy, when they can just have it somewhere else where you cant go
And why even after you know about the situation and they can have sex with you, all they can think about is having sex with someone else? Nothing makes sense
And it doesnt make sense the way the MC acts in general
But i already gave up on the story in this game, i will just play for the renders, probably even skipping unseen text in next releases. I just cant stand this MC, and no, the corruption option isnt enough, because it isnt about corrupting anyone, its about behaving like a normal person even without making everyone corrupted, but the Developer clearly doesnt like an MC with personality.
This game made with HS 2, right?
it's better to make the MC show his face though. the game is hot and if we can see MC making out with the landlady not by MC's view of point, it will be hotter and perfect
it's better to make the MC show his face though. the game is hot and if we can see MC making out with the landlady not by MC's view of point, it will be hotter and perfect
Yeah, true. I think it's the dilemma of the web serial striking again. Creators basically have two audiences when they do it - people playing/reading/whatever as they release and people starting from the very beginning. Making things better for one group tends to come at the expense of the other, so it's a constant balancing act to keep the up-to-date audience happy while also making sure to make the overall work as good as possible so new folks enjoy it more, and hopefully stick around.
Here, I think it's a big enough issue for too many people that it's worth redoing. It sucks, but so does driving away a large portion of your new players. But I dunno. They hopefully have greater insight into how big of a problem it is. The fact they redid it once already though seems telling.
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