Ayhsel

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I am praying that I get to Mary Luna in the end that is one of the reasons why I'm doing this getting all this powert doing whatever Mission HopesGamingwant me to do and if Cordia refuses to give me Lunas hand in marriage

I will ask HopesGaming permission to go straight up Darth Vader on their ass

Cordia give me Lunas hand or I will take Antonio's head and the head of anyone who gets in my way
hahah yeah I was expecting you to reply to me something like this!

But don't worry, I am confident that if there is something Cordia would be happy is with MC being with Luna. Definitely, the most easy thing Cordia would allow, out of the other options (herself, Gracie, Isabel). Well, that is assuming the current information. We have no idea what the story will lead up to.

But I would not worry too much. I am confident there will be a Luna's ending.
 

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Antonio going gay has already happened. It's just a question of if he is going to stop pretending, or at least get his immediate family to help cover for him.

And you can't kill a conflict that doesn't exist.

The characterization up to this point almost wholly lends itself to a scenario where all the official love interests(Luca, isabel, Gracie) are weird/psychologically damaged/co-dependent enough to be perfectly fine sharing a lover.

At least with each other. Again, with Isabel being the only real wild card in the bunch because alot of it comes down to whether or not Angelo just decides to be openly gay(it's already established he's being secretively gay) or at least agrees to let Isabel be happy as long as she keeps it lowkey to avoid damaging the family reputation, same as he's already doing with his male lovers.

Basically it comes down to whether or not Angelo will stop being a hypocrite, and whether or not Luna and Gracie truly accept Isabel as one of them.

Luna? Definitely.

Gracie? Who can tell for sure with that little sociopath...

Cordia could be a potential facilitator...and she certainly seems to have hinted to a similar relationship in the past with MC's dad...so it's not out of the realm of possibility.

At this point things are being so heavily steered towards a harem/open relationship with the main LI's i'd be stunned if a monogamous relationship was forcefully shoehorned in to the exclusion of what every sign up til now has pointed toward.

I can certainly see multiple endings, but any "one girl" endings would require the MC to actively choose one girl to the exclusion of the rest. But right now I see the official canon ending, assuming you successfully maximize affection points and maybe morality points too, as pushing the story toward a harem/sharing relationship and doing so in a way that will feel more "earned" than most harem games.

Granted, i use the word "earned" rather loosely since it's only made plausible by the fact the whole family is comedically fucked in the head.
 

Ayhsel

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Antonio going gay has already happened. It's just a question of if he is going to stop pretending, or at least get his immediate family to help cover for him.
Actually no. It was established he is bi. Isabel explicitly stated she would not have married a gay man, implying at most, he managed to fool her very well.
At this moment it is a discussion thing, but it has not been established he is gay. Only that he can potentially be. I personally doubt that is the case. You don't need to be gay to have your relationship with your wife break down after you lost a child, even if unborn.
And you can't kill a conflict that doesn't exist.
We cannot know that yet. They know he is flirting with them all, but that is different to require a formal relationship. So the conflict can be there as soon as any of them wants a real relationship. MC too.
At this point things are being so heavily steered towards a harem/open relationship with the main LI's i'd be stunned if a monogamous relationship was forcefully shoehorned in to the exclusion of what every sign up til now has pointed toward.
I'd say this is more your interpretation that was has been steered to. On the very least, it is not clear to me it has been Hopes' intent.
I can certainly see multiple endings, but any "one girl" endings would require the MC to actively choose one girl to the exclusion of the rest. But right now I see the official canon ending, assuming you successfully maximize affection points and maybe morality points too, as pushing the story toward a harem/sharing relationship and doing so in a way that will feel more "earned" than most harem games.
As I mentioned the setting allows it more than most other novels. But, in the end, there is soo much story yet to be done. For as much as we know, each of the main love interest may die in a fire in which you can only save one of them! :lepew:
Granted, i use the word "earned" rather loosely since it's only made plausible by the fact the whole family is comedically fucked in the head.
Yep, as I said, Delucas are portrayed as a bunch of weirdos. Even other families inside the novel regarded them as much. And clearly, absolutely all respect/fear Cordia. So her rule is what really matters here, in my opinion.
 

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This one actually would be nice to know. No an actual release date, but what is Hopes planning to. Two other releases this year now that the big part is done? That would be nice. We are in April, so say one in August, another one in December?

Ahh... an evil chocolate vampire lord can dream...
 
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hahah yeah I was expecting you to reply to me something like this!

But don't worry, I am confident that if there is something Cordia would be happy is with MC being with Luna. Definitely, the most easy thing Cordia would allow, out of the other options (herself, Gracie, Isabel). Well, that is assuming the current information. We have no idea what the story will lead up to.

But I would not worry too much. I am confident there will be a Luna's ending.
yes and if it comes down to a fightI will just let her know my older brother is an immortal heartless vampire that will kill everyone and everything in his path.
;)
 
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yes and if it comes down to a fightI will just let her know my older brother is an immortal heartless vampire that will kill everyone and everything in his path.
;)
Of course my brother! I have your back! let those bitches know I will come for them if you cannot marry Luna!

Mmmm it is best if you don't tell them I call them bitches. They kind of scare the shit out of me. Specially Gracie. Which is problematic, as she also turns me on so much when she is scary. It is like a no winning situation. One way or another, I am getting fucked!
 
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Of course my brother! I have your back! let those bitches know I will come for them if you cannot marry Luna!

Mmmm it is best if you don't tell them I call them bitches. They kind of scare the shit out of me. Specially Gracie. Which is problematic, as she also turns me on so much when she is scary. It is like a no winning situation. One way or another, I am getting fucked!
well I never played Gracie story so I don't know anything about that and
how many times do I have to remind you you can't die
besides what can that. nuttysquirrel/ mad scientistt Gracie really do to you anyway
 

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I just reached end of line. Story with great music, this plot line is great even for a movie. Great job, only down side is well .. updates are slow. But I guess quality take time.
 

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hahah yeah I was expecting you to reply to me something like this!

But don't worry, I am confident that if there is something Cordia would be happy is with MC being with Luna. Definitely, the most easy thing Cordia would allow, out of the other options (herself, Gracie, Isabel). Well, that is assuming the current information. We have no idea what the story will lead up to.

But I would not worry too much. I am confident there will be a Luna's ending.
I think if they give solo-endings to characters, Hopes will probably need to give solo endings for all 4 main girls (Luna, Gracie, Isabel, Cordia).
Luna and Cordia are of course my 2 favorite characters, but there are also those who heavily favor characters like Gracie or Isabel (and given Hopes has said he'll also make friend-only path for Luna and Gracie as well like he did for Isabel).

So if solo endings are an options, my hope is the following:

- Luna solo Ending
- Graie solo Ending
- Isabel solo Ending
- Cordia solo Ending
- Family Harem Ending (maybe in this one, characters like Amita, Amata, Siobhan, Leliana can join in the fun :LOL: )
 

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I think if they give solo-endings to characters, Hopes will probably need to give solo endings for all 4 main girls (Luna, Gracie, Isabel, Cordia).
Luna and Cordia are of course my 2 favorite characters, but there are also those who heavily favor characters like Gracie or Isabel (and given Hopes has said he'll also make friend-only path for Luna and Gracie as well like he did for Isabel).

So if solo endings are an options, my hope is the following:

- Luna solo Ending
- Graie solo Ending
- Isabel solo Ending
- Cordia solo Ending
- Family Harem Ending (maybe in this one, characters like Amita, Amata, Siobhan, Leliana can join in the fun :LOL: )
That'd be the dream. Having those options.

Don't forget Eiza in that Harem Ending, MC's "unofficial" soldier :LOL:.
 
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That'd be the dream. Having those options.

Don't forget Eiza in that Harem Ending, MC's "unofficial" soldier :LOL:.
Might always be an option to include all the Eizas and Onorinas, Elitas, Caterinas, Amitas and Amatas as "side dishes" in a harem ending. Okay, with this bunch it just might be a bit exhausting to satisfy them all, but hey ...
 

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I don't know. I am not expecting a harem here. While I think this is one of those few stories in which a kind of harem could work*, I am actually waiting for the moment in which we will have to pick.

*The reason why I comment I could see a harem working here is simply because the setting allows it. In some sense, the key element is Cordia and the hierarchical structure of the family, mixed with the fact that Deluca is a family of wierdos.

Let me explain myself better. We have first that everybody obeys Cordia and her word is law. We have then that it was suggested (maybe not, but it was what I understood) that Cordia has remained alone since the death of Lucan. Provided her kiss was not motherly, she could developed feelings for MC.
Now, I can see a situation in which she would allow her daughters to be romantically involved with MC (it is again hinted she is already allowing it, when Wilfred comment to MC they are letting him have his way with the girls, at least for now).
Only way in which I can see Cordia also allowing Isabel's to be involved with MC is if Antonio died. The reason is that which mother would want her son to be cheated and I don't think the whole "Antonio goes gay" will ever happened.

So, all in all a situation in which Cordia, Luna, Gracie and Isabel date MC is potentially possible. First, however, let me be explicit here. I don't see a harem in which MC goes a pick which girl he wants to fuck and all other are happy and might even join. I see a situation in which each girl is aware he is dating the others, but nothing else. Second, it is Cordia who would be the harem queen, not MC, but simply it would be MC the one benefitting from it. This last part again follows from the hierarchical structure.

In general, and even with these variations, I would be very against the idea, as everybody agreeing MC can fuck everybody is a terrible way to write an interesting novel, as it kills a lot of potential conflict. Luckily, Deluca's plot is not a pure love story. The driving story is not about getting the girls. That is one of the things going on, but more a consequence than the cause of the plot. So even if eventually all relationship conflict was potentially killed, I can see the novel having so much things going on that it would not be truly detrimental.

HAVING SAID ALL THAT, I am still not betting money on this being the case. We will most likely have to pick, eventually. Or it might end up being one of those novels where the relationships issues are never resolved, in which the novel finishes with MC unable to pick.. One way or the other, we'll see, but I suggest you lower your harem expectations, though.
The words of wisdom. (y) If there wont be any major changes your thoughts will become real, I think

I'd really like to see such route with different happy endings for each of the main girls. But I am kind of sorry for the people who wants Isabelle or harem route.

In this progression of story, a harem thought looks like a suicide for MC. If hopes thinks adding "premature" ending for such a route, I would support him with all my heart. Just thinking about Wilfred or one of serpents killing MC for his "mischievous" behaivor -most probably Wilfred- is a really good end for game. :ROFLMAO:

Isabelle's route requires Gracie missions already and I fell like there is no happy ending aganist Gracie. Especially after the "I will hurt you" scene in Blizzard Princess. Even whole family would back Isabelle, she would find a way and punish both Isabelle and MC like she did in the Warehouse mission.
 
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Can we please come back to the important questions?

1) Why my old save works not?
2) Almost three years, not enough fucky fucky!
3) When next update?
You forgotten:
The whole game is now shit with the new contract. Why fix something that wasn't broken?
This one actually would be nice to know. No an actual release date, but what is Hopes planning to. Two other releases this year now that the big part is done? That would be nice. We are in April, so say one in August, another one in December?

Ahh... an evil chocolate vampire lord can dream...
14:53, on Wednesday UTC. Now happy?:ROFLMAO:
So if solo endings are an options, my hope is the following:

- Luna solo Ending
- Graie solo Ending
- Isabel solo Ending
- Cordia solo Ending
- Family Harem Ending (maybe in this one, characters like Amita, Amata, Siobhan, Leliana can join in the fun :LOL: )
And the most important ending the Filius Canis Ending: Where you have a gangbang, on the receiving end, with Wilfred, Antonio, Gottardo and his flail, a unicorn, a male dragon and Floaty.

PS: With how I think hopes "ticked", I woudn't even be supprised, if the next release would be now on a Wednesday 14:53 UTC.
 
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well I never played Gracie story so I don't know anything about that and
how many times do I have to remind you you can't die
besides what can that. nuttysquirrel/ mad scientistt Gracie really do to you anyway
I would recommend playing it friend, there are really good scenes in both Isabelle and Gracie stories. While Isabelle melting your heart, Gracie could strike fear into it.

Of course none of them can surpass the effect lovely Luna created but give them chance of disappointment. :ROFLMAO:

- Family Harem Ending (maybe in this one, characters like Amita, Amata, Siobhan, Leliana can join in the fun :LOL: )
It would be interesting to see that but highly unlikely to have a harem ending, I think. More likely forest :ROFLMAO:
 
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