Lord Verminaard

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I wonder if we might compete with him for a place in the Frenetico?
For MC participate in the Frenetico tournament we need either a change of heart of MC or MC just enters tournament for deliberately lose or someone must force him to join -Maybe Wilfred or Cordia order or any of the girls use it as a prerequisite for a lewd scene-

Without any of it why someone who tries to show himself weak at every time enter the tournament to show his abilities?

Ah, got it now.
You gotta do it both ways.
For the guy harassing the girl, the second time I just stole his jacket.
Then fought the elite soldato by the museum, then stole the jewels at the houses using stealth then went to market place. Afterwards got the green.
You can stole guys jacket and fought him the at the same time, dont need the seperate them. First stole his jacket, then interact again
 
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For MC participate in the Frenetico tournament we need either a change of heart of MC or MC just enters tournament for deliberately lose or someone must force him to join -Maybe Wilfred or Cordia order or any of the girls use it as a prerequisite for a lewd scene-

Without any of it why someone who tries to show himself weak at every time enter the tournament to show his abilities?
I can't see him enter the tournament. As you said, they're really hammering home the plot point that the MC is less a hammer and more a scalpel. In the back. Less Luna and more.... calculating. Putting himself in (or simply participating by being forced) would ruin all that because certainly it seems even the MC knows his main strength is being under estimated. If you bring home the gold, no one's gonna wanna go up against you.

It's actually somewhat refreshing. He's a character who recognises his limits, and works within that to come out on top. It's not simply a game where you're left in command of a positive Deity amongst men (apart from his obvious big dick energy which makes the women love him but I suppose it's hard getting away from that)
 
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I can't see him enter the tournament. As you said, they're really hammering home the plot point that the MC is less a hammer and more a scalpel. In the back. Less Luna and more.... calculating. Putting himself in (or simply participating by being forced) would ruin all that because certainly it seems even the MC knows his main strength is being under estimated. If you bring home the gold, no one's gonna wanna go up against you.

It's actually somewhat refreshing. He's a character who recognises his limits, and works within that to come out on top. It's not simply a game where you're left in command of a positive Deity amongst men (apart from his obvious big dick energy which makes the women love him but I suppose it's hard getting away from that)
Yeah, I definitely love how the mc is basically the type that plays possum to make others think so little of him, where he overplays how useless he is just to make people underestimate him. This is what's gonna be extremely interesting in the future.
 
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Yeah, I definitely love how the mc is basically the type that plays possum to make others think so little of him, where he overplays how useless he is just to make people underestimate him. This is what's gonna be extremely interesting in the future.
It took me a while to get a handle on him at first. He's written like he's nothing "Why am I here, I'm no one special" etc but at the same time he's being incredibly forward with a lot of very powerful women and you're left thinking "you've got no right to be this brazen". Even things like speaking out when he was in that meeting with one of the Families. Self preservation alone would be such that you'd go "holy shit I'm out of my depth here, I'll just keep quiet until its over" but not only can you speak up, but you can be almost cheeky about it? Wilfred was right, if it was a higher up family then they could have asked for his head. the MC would surely have known (or at least suspect that), but he went ahead anyway.

Not to mention the continuous references to people "seeing things in him", so he's not all that great at hiding whatever he is packing under the hood.
 

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I can't see him enter the tournament. As you said, they're really hammering home the plot point that the MC is less a hammer and more a scalpel. In the back. Less Luna and more.... calculating. Putting himself in (or simply participating by being forced) would ruin all that because certainly it seems even the MC knows his main strength is being under estimated. If you bring home the gold, no one's gonna wanna go up against you.

It's actually somewhat refreshing. He's a character who recognises his limits, and works within that to come out on top. It's not simply a game where you're left in command of a positive Deity amongst men (apart from his obvious big dick energy which makes the women love him but I suppose it's hard getting away from that)
Well, Hopes (the dev) has said that the Frenetico Tournament will definitely be coming in the future.
The tournament has already been referenced twice now, once by Luna and Gracie during the beach prison event, and now by Eiza during the "Unofficial Boss" event.

So I actually do see him entering the tournament tbh (despite him saying "No thanks" in beach prison event lol).
The tournament itself is a huge sporting event that is very popular in the underworld (in the DeLucaVerse, according to Hopes), and it really wouldn't make sense for MC to play a passive role and remain as a spectator.
Participation, yes. No idea whether he wins the tournament or not, but I think he may actually surprise a lot of folks despite his intentions by doing better than what everyone expected of him.

Cause whether MC likes it or not, he's already getting to the point where he's close to getting promotion to another rank (i.e. Elite Soldato).

Also, entering the tournament gives opportunity for the MC to earn rare weapons/equipment and money etc as prizes/rewards as stated in the beach prison event, so it also makes sense gameplay-wise.
 

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It took me a while to get a handle on him at first. He's written like he's nothing "Why am I here, I'm no one special" etc but at the same time he's being incredibly forward with a lot of very powerful women and you're left thinking "you've got no right to be this brazen". Even things like speaking out when he was in that meeting with one of the Families. Self preservation alone would be such that you'd go "holy shit I'm out of my depth here, I'll just keep quiet until its over" but not only can you speak up, but you can be almost cheeky about it? Wilfred was right, if it was a higher up family then they could have asked for his head. the MC would surely have known (or at least suspect that), but he went ahead anyway.

Not to mention the continuous references to people "seeing things in him", so he's not all that great at hiding whatever he is packing under the hood.
For sure, but luckily, we got to see a hint of what he's truly capable of when the assassin snuck in to kill him and he pulled off one of the most kick ass things in the game when he was right behind her and had a gun to her head.
 

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and we must bear in mind that when he saw dominico fight he was not impressed I think he knows how to fight more than we have seen removing the Punishment mission where it was his first time in a fight where most people could die we would freeze no matter how much we knew peel so I'm very curious to know the true strength of our Mc hope that made it great not even the players know the strength and abilities of our Mc

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Has anyone reached the 2 new Main Missions events? They require a weapon, but after going through absolutely all story events and contracts by 100%, it is still not available. Bug or am I missing something?
Check the Journal > Events Log makes sure you didn't miss anything
Because I've had no issues getting the gun through 2 play throughs
 

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I'm pretty sure Hopes has been planning for him to enter the tournament for a long time now. So while he's hiding how good he is at first, he's either going to have a change of heart or get outed at some point.
 

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For sure, but luckily, we got to see a hint of what he's truly capable of when the assassin snuck in to kill him and he pulled off one of the most kick ass things in the game when he was right behind her and had a gun to her head.
Yeah totally that was pimp as hell. My only issue was he's been SO good at doing it that when something like that scene happened it felt out of character. But then I suppose going on about it too much would take away from the impact from scenes where he actually steps up
 

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I can't see him enter the tournament. As you said, they're really hammering home the plot point that the MC is less a hammer and more a scalpel. In the back. Less Luna and more.... calculating. Putting himself in (or simply participating by being forced) would ruin all that because certainly it seems even the MC knows his main strength is being under estimated. If you bring home the gold, no one's gonna wanna go up against you.
Agree about MC but, just a thought, entering the tournament is not the same as winning it.
The tournament probably wouldn't have been mentioned, if it wasn't going to be featured & MC entering is plausible under a few circumstances.
Could be as simple as Luna wants a chaperone.
Perhaps, when we get promoted, Cordia or Wilfred may choose to send us. Perhaps Wilfred sees it as a way for MC to recognise his physical abilities, as well as his plotting & scheming skills.
Either way, he's probably going to get "grumpy" & have a complaint about it. ;):LOL:

Also, where you say "if you bring home the gold, no-one's going to want to go against you", I'm not sure about that.
Maybe MC would quite enjoy not having anyone want to go against him?
Also, don't forget that being champion quite often puts a bigger target on your back and you may find that more people want to go against you.

IDK, but I don't think the Frenetico would have been mentioned as simply a throw away comment.
I fully expect it to feature in the game.
If it features in the game, MC will surely be there.
 
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Agree about MC but, just a thought, entering the tournament is not the same as winning it.
The tournament probably wouldn't have been mentioned, if it wasn't going to be featured & MC entering is plausible under a few circumstances.
Could be as simple as Luna wants a chaperone.
Perhaps, when we get promoted, Cordia or Wilfred may choose to send us. Perhaps Wilfred sees it as a way for MC to recognise his physical abilities, as well as his plotting & scheming skills.
Either way, he's probably going to get "grumpy" & have a complaint about it. ;):LOL:

Also, where you say "if you bring home the gold, no-one's going to want to go against you", I'm not sure about that.
Maybe MC would quite enjoy not having anyone want to go against him?
Also, don't forget that being champion quite often puts a bigger target on your back and you may find that more people want to go against you.

IDK, but I don't think the Frenetico would have been mentioned as simply a throw away comment.
I fully expect it to feature in the game.
If it features in the game, MC will surely be there.
Oh I agree it's definitely coming. It would be wasteful to reference it and then not expand upon it (especially as it's been mentioned... what? 3 times now) but my point about bringing home the gold and how the MC might want people to not go up against him is plausible however the MC's progression in the story so far seems to be more of something akin to him realsing his strength comes from being seen as a wolf in sheeps clothing, if you win that competition then you become more of a wolf in wolfs clothing like Luna or one of the Serpants. I believe he will become one of the Serpants along with Luna, but I believe that it'll be a big WOW, HOLY SHIT HIM? type reveal as opposed to the MC becoming a bad ass don't fuck with him type character.
 
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I like the idea of it being a surprise, like that.
Only thing is, if he's reached the position where he's in the top rank of the family's structure, prior to Serpent, it should not really come as a surprise to anyone, if/when he reaches Serpent.
I'd expect that you can't really rise to rank of Capo, without people noticing you.

Then you could get opposition saying:
"Who's this guy? Him? A Capo?? Don't make me laugh!"
"Hey man, he won the Frenetico, don't take him lightly."
"Pah, look at him, he ain't shit."
MC gains flawless victory because they'd still underestimate him, at first.

Thinking about it more, I can see MC making it to the final & ending up vs Luna!
There's a way for him to enter, gain experience and yet not win.
Problem solved?
I would assume the surprise would be him getting to such a high rank without people knowing (beyond the people who seem to know of his circumstance in the first place). That certainly plays into the mystery around the character. "Who is this guy? How'd he get to stay in the house? Why does Wilfred rate him so highly? Why does the Lady treat him with respect etc. How is he allowed to talk to the DeLuca daughters like that". No one knows why he's rising up the ranks, just that he is. If he goes into the tournament and bosses it then it stops being a mystery anymore and more "ah, that's why, he's the DeLuca's ringer".

The issue I have is, given what we know of the MC, he's better than what everyone thinks. Going into the tournament and intentionally losing to cement that opinion others may have of him being weak would help his case, but it would look bad on the DeLuca's as it would look like their champion ain't shit.

As you said, I can see him going but not taking part. It's certainly consistent with his character where he is sent to a place and everyone's asking "why is he here?" so him being Luna's batsman would really play into that.
 

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Anyone else get Laggy, Fpsy?
I am 93.12% sure its my potato pc, but if not any advice?
ps cant wait for mc background, op moments!
 

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Either way, if he reaches high rank, then people will know about him.
The Family members will know of his exploits and why he's reached higher ranks.
Other Families will be aware.
He cannot reach Serpent level and have people not be aware of him being a bad ass.
As I said, I doubt if he could reach Capo level with no-one being aware.
He could potentially reach Serpent level without people knowing it's him, though. Like if he wore a mask or whatever. I don't know, just thinking aloud.
 
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Also, entering the tournament gives opportunity for the MC to earn rare weapons/equipment and money etc as prizes/rewards as stated in the beach prison event, so it also makes sense gameplay-wise.
It would be a horrible idea for him to enter the tournament unless he intends on performing poorly. The MC has thrived by being underestimated. If he were to somehow win, he would no longer be underestimated and would have an even bigger target on him than he does now.

He could potentially reach Serpent level without people knowing it's him, though. Like if he wore a mask or whatever. I don't know, just thinking aloud.
I like that idea. It seems that some of the Serpents thrive on anonymity. MC could be one of those.

MC has to walk a fine line between being completely underestimated and being known as being too powerful.
 

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He could potentially reach Serpent level without people knowing it's him, though. Like if he wore a mask or whatever. I don't know, just thinking aloud.
lol yeah, but if people are aware of him as a Capo, then he disappears and a new masked Serpent appears... :unsure:
Unless they were to spin a cover story, can certainly see there being some speculation, among many, that it's the MC.
Maybe he starts wearing the mask, at the Frenetico?
It would be a horrible idea for him to enter the tournament unless he intends on performing poorly. The MC has thrived by being underestimated. If he were to somehow win, he would no longer be underestimated and would have an even bigger target on him than he does now.
Thing is, that we do not know how the Frenetico plays out.
It's like we're expecting a gladiator arena & straight combat, in front of a crowd of mafioso.
They could be competing in a forest, or it might not even be in front of an audience.
There could be contests that present the opportunity to pit smarts against each other & out maneuver the opposition, or trap them/disable them, therefore gaining a win.
Remains to be seen.

Either way, MC can still be thought of as "lucky" to have made it to the final & he can lose to Luna there.
Only Luna, Wilfred & Cordia know he threw the contest.
Problem solved. (y)
Maybe MC saves Luna and she gets the win, he doesn't.
Otherwise there's a bigger new problem with Luna being pissed! :LOL:
 
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