Ren'Py Abandoned The DeLuca Family [Season 1] [HopesGaming]

[evildead]

you all know the next update will be a let down .we all hope its going to be good but its never is...we always want more

 

[Badjourasmix]

you all know the next update will be a let down .we all hope its going to be good but its never is...we always want more

That is very debatable, I've enjoyed the updates so far.

 

[JJJ84]

you all know the next update will be a let down .we all hope its going to be good but its never is...we always want more

I don't know about that. I've enjoyed all the updates until now, and wasn't let down by any of them. As a matter of fact, with each update, it just makes me more hyped for things to come.

 

[Cartageno]

There is of course the risk of introducing more gameplay, as it seems, which may increase the number of people crying "too grindy".

 

[PinkGoddess]

There is of course the risk of introducing more gameplay, as it seems, which may increase the number of people crying "too grindy".

Grindy? the game has cheats ingame, I doubt anyone complain about the grindy part xdd my only complain is the wait for each update but because for me is one of the best, if not the best plot in this site by far and I must to say, italian mafias is one of my fetishes (il padrinoooo <3333 ! )

 

[Cartageno]

I doubt anyone complain about the grindy part

I am pretty positive I won't. However, some people will start complaining from roughly the second mouseclick between two scenes that a game is "too grindy". Any game that is even remotely sandboxy will be called that, if it isn't, you're probably looking at a kinetic novel without a story.

 

[PinkGoddess]

I am pretty positive I won't. However, some people will start complaining from roughly the second mouseclick between two scenes that a game is "too grindy". Any game that is even remotely sandboxy will be called that, if it isn't, you're probably looking at a kinetic novel without a story.

Well, I prefer linear VN too, but because in sandbox games I never know when the updates ends and if I lost any content.. is so frustrating this thing (in this game no because u have the changelog missions ingame, but Im talking about another sandbox games) and tbh there are sandbox games too bad worked with the grind part, then when u play these games u go with the alarms on hahaha. At least in this game, the sandbox part is not an argument for complain imho, and for these things I love this game

 

[Zirael Q]

I miss Luna hoping to play it soon

 

[JJJ84]

I am pretty positive I won't. However, some people will start complaining from roughly the second mouseclick between two scenes that a game is "too grindy". Any game that is even remotely sandboxy will be called that, if it isn't, you're probably looking at a kinetic novel without a story.

I won't either. In fact, I'm welcoming the new gameplay (with Contracts and others), and don't really mind the grind (even if it does exist).

It's gonna be really ironic if those people who complain saying it's too grindy are the same ones who complained before that "Contracts are boring." or "Contract gameplay needs to change." etc (I wasn't one of them, but I do remember reading one or two saying something along those lines before lol).

I don't know about others, but when the next update gets released, I'm just gonna play the game through as if it's my first time, and not use Control skip to skip over the previous events quickly. Will the temptation be there (to quickly skip to get to the update content)? Sure, I won't deny that (otherwise I'd be lying to myself).
But I feel that's the best way to enjoy this game, at least for me (even though some of these events I did view them more than once through gallery).

 

[Master of Puppets]

Grindy? the game has cheats ingame, I doubt anyone complain about the grindy part xdd my only complain is the wait for each update but because for me is one of the best, if not the best plot in this site by far and I must to say, italian mafias is one of my fetishes (il padrinoooo <3333 ! )

"There are cheats you can use to skip the grind" does not excuse a game from having grind.

 

[Cartageno]

I don't know about others, but when the next update gets released, I'm just gonna play the game through as if it's my first time, and not use Control skip to skip over the previous events quickly. Will the temptation be there (to quickly skip to get to the update content)? Sure, I won't deny that (otherwise I'd be lying to myself).
But I feel that's the best way to enjoy this game, at least for me (even though some of these events I did view them more than once through gallery).

For me it usually depends on when my last start was. With DeLuca it certainly has been long enough to warrant a new introduction.

Also, many stories (be they movies or books, and the same can of course happen here) need a second run with the knowledge of what will happen later to check out foreshadowing which flew right over your head the first time, and other scenes which are now in a completely different light anyway.

"There are cheats you can use to skip the grind" does not excuse a game from having grind.

Though I do think personally that a well measured amount of grind in a game is like a well measured amount of spice in your food and does not need any excuse at all.

 

[Jimayo]

Though I do think personally that a well measured amount of grind in a game is like a well measured amount of spice in your food and does not need any excuse at all.

I think the people complaining about the grind in this game should have to play foot of the mountains.

 

[Master of Puppets]

I think the people complaining about the grind in this game should have to play foot of the mountains.

We're talking about the possibility of the game becoming grindy when the gameplay update comes out, not how much there is now. It's always a worry that when a dev decides to add 'more gameplay' that that actually means 'more grind', definitely hope that isn't going to be the case here.

 

[Aleks Mark]

Gorgeous game. The plot, characters, graphics. Thanks to the author and the site. Just Mario Puzo in the light version.

 

[SexiestManAlive]

Wow, I haven't played this in over a year and there's still no sex?

 

[Sony12345]

Wow, I haven't played this in over a year and there's still no sex?

there is oral sex scene.....

Well theres like 1-2 updates a year what did you expect and even when theres an update we get like 2-3 new scenes tops and thats it

Correction 2-3 updates a year....

 

[HopesGaming]

Wow, I haven't played this in over a year and there's still no sex?

So? I remember seing your name clicking like on many of the negative reviews, which is fine and no problem wih that. But that shows you don't like the game. So, why would you care if a game you don't like will have sex or not?
Even if the game get's sex scene it will still focus on the story part and still be like it is.
So, without sounding offensive - this place ain't for ya.
Go to a game thread that is more for your style.

Well theres like 1-2 updates a year what did you expect and even when theres an update we get like 2-3 new scenes tops and thats it

Meh. Whenever I see your name I instantly know you going to complain. (Search this guys name and you see literally all this guys post here are complaining.)

I'm not going to bother with you. My game is out when is out and only one text and one image. Deal with it or bye bye.

 

[HopesGaming]

We're talking about the possibility of the game becoming grindy when the gameplay update comes out, not how much there is now. It's always a worry that when a dev decides to add 'more gameplay' that that actually means 'more grind', definitely hope that isn't going to be the case here.

I agree with you that it can be the case. That is a very big thing that can happen in games that go on this path.
But I can promise that the new gameplay won't have such problems.
The reason for that is that the cost to advance the story/quest will always be low. As your increase in rank and missions your money gain increases. But buying items for the girls won't.
Secondly, there will be an option to turn off the gameplay.

There have been many who streamed the game and I've learned that
1.
not everyone is a gamer. Some people are older while others simply enjoy adult games but never really played any games besides that. So they lack common gamer sense and even what seems mundane will be hard for them.
2.
Gameplay is fun when you are alone and have time. Gameplay stuff may not be that fun if you are a streamer that has viewers.

That's why the new gameplay can be turned off.

 

[HopesGaming]

Im giving fair criticism tho... In the beginning the updates were more frequent,better and longer. Now its 4+ month wait for a new update that doesent offer much enjoyment. Personally i think this is the game with the biggest potential on here. But me and others are seemingly getting quite fed up with the lack of development. I pulled my patreon subscription to it a while back because it just didnt seem worth it. And its always the same... Heres some images i made of luna to shut you up in the meantime and never an eta on when the update is coming. I dont think you yourself are that kind of person but lots of people might soon see it as you being one of those shitty devs that just milk people for money.

The updates weren't long at the start. They were shorter and they were shorter because I released fast.
An update like Luna's background story couldn't be done in one month's time.

Now about the time. Here is a snippet from my main Patreon page;

Q. How long does an update take?
A.
Sadly, it is an impossible thing to give an estimation on. This is my hobby and real-life can tend to take priority when needed. Under 3-4 months is what would be realistic. 3 is the goal.
But I have had updates taken a lot more. That I want to improve, but alas, it can tend to happen. Hopefully, in the future I am in a comfortable enough spot to go full time on this project! But for now- there is no guarantee for monthly or even bi-monthly releases.

Again, this is the front page. Not hidden anywhere. This is the place patrons see before they pledge.

I have never been dishonest with the way I do things. If it takes longer I tell everyone that it takes longer. Patrons can decide to unpledge or not. What is important is that I tell it as it is.

But your problem is different.
"new update that doesn't offer much enjoyment."
This has nothing to do with time or anything else. You're just not happy with the content which is fine. But don't go around saying it's because this and that then.

Of course, I am planning to improve the time for a release because as a dev I want to give it out as fast as possible. I also don't like the current time between updates. But this update is a gameplay add and change which complete changes framework and requires a new save game.
I am not going to rush this out. This one will take the time it needs as it is a really essential part.

Now, you can choose to accept that or not.
That is totally up to you.
Either way is fine and I respect your decision. What I don't respect is constant attacks when I have been transparent about it all.
Again, I am not deceiving anyone by giving false pretenses, I tell it straight up that it can take 3-4 months, and always communicate in the forums and answer questions.

 

[leaf22]

WOW nice!!! fantastic game