Ren'Py The Headmaster [v0.15.3.1 Public] [Altos and Herdone]

[Grordan]

I'm probably not the first person to ask this question but hey, it must be asked.

Is the psychological stuff behind the punishments true? Will mixing pain, humiliation, and sexual pleasure in punishments make young women behave themselves in real life?

And this one may have been answered in the game but: how would this be implemented to male students?

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[GamerDaddy]

Is the psychological stuff behind the punishments true? Will mixing pain, humiliation, and sexual pleasure in punishments make young women behave themselves in real life?

some private schools did this back in the day, none do it today that i know of

 

[Cartageno]

some private schools did this back in the day, none do it today that i know of

Including sexual pleasure? I mean, officially, not what the monks did with the pupils in their off time ...

 

[Perniciousducks]

Including sexual pleasure? I mean, officially, not what the monks did with the pupils in their off time ...

based on everything we’ve found out about that church over the last 20 years, I would not be so sure.

also, I can’t believe someone asked this question… man, leave it to the internet to lower the bar even more.

 

[Komahina2]

If it's the whole premise for a game I'd like to know if it's made up or not.

 

[CuteLilNori]

I'm probably not the first person to ask this question but hey, it must be asked.

Is the psychological stuff behind the punishments true? Will mixing pain, humiliation, and sexual pleasure in punishments make young women behave themselves in real life?

And this one may have been answered in the game but: how would this be implemented to male students?

Have you ever thought that most of every game we played every year is usually not very realistics?

If you somehow thought it's real, why not try it now and see it work IRL?

 

[telgalad]

If it's the whole premise for a game I'd like to know if it's made up or not.

TLDR: It has a rough basis in science, but with no real world test confirming or denying the results when it comes to later teens or adults.


Ok, so first off I have very limited experience with actual psychology. While I have a wide array of curiosities, including psychology and government experiments involving it, I do not have a degree or personal experience with this.

The basis for this idea can be summed up in Sigmund Freud's philosophy " that people make choices to avoid or decrease pain or make choices that create or increase pleasure. The pain pleasure principle is the core of all the decisions we make. Beliefs, values, actions and decisions are built upon this principle."

This is now called " psychological hedonism", "in philosophical psychology, the view that all human action is ultimately motivated by desires for pleasure and the avoidance of pain. "

That being said, a lot of psychologists and governments have done experiments with this in the past. The problem is no matter how effective (Or ineffective) it is, modern first world governments consider it immoral. That being said, government uses for such a thing would be a bit more... extreme. (see experiments where they gave LSD to soldiers to see if it could make them more loyal and increase pain tolerance...) There were some CIA experiments done in the 60's concerning this idea. They basically were trying to purposefully induce Stockholm syndrome, where the subject would be artificially driven to "love" the doctor or captor. These tests ultimately ended in failure for wartime/military uses.

A good quick read on the topic when linked to spanking can be found here:

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I think the largest difference between most studies done on spanking specifically is that it is usually targeted towards children. There has been a large amount of research done on that, and I would strongly discourage using spanking in any serious way with children. The findings showed that spanked children exhibited greater brain response in a bad way, and suggests that spanking can alter children’s brain function in similar ways to severe forms of maltreatment. Extreme forms of anxiety and depression, and life long trust issues follow in more sever cases. Simply seeing some facial expressions tend to trigger a subconscious fight or flight response that the subject might not even be aware of.

However, on the other end, almost zero research has been done with spankings on later teenagers and adults who are better mentally equipped to understand what is going on and why.

A more recent movement that you may find interesting is "Domestic Discipline". Where a fully consenting spouse accepts physical discipline when they violate a preset agreed set of rules. This is a very mutual agreement though, both the rules and following punishments are discussed and agreed upon in advance, very different that the discipline found in this game. Though the movement has its roots from "Catholic Domestic Discipline" that often had a patriarchal abuse element...

 

[Komahina2]

Thanks for the info!

On an unrelated note, I picture Paul Mykock's voice being like Tim Curry. And does anyone else think the MC looks like Keima Kasuragi from The World God Only Knows? (Or an Asian version of Austin Powers?)

 

[marcomemmey]

I'm probably not the first person to ask this question but hey, it must be asked.

Is the psychological stuff behind the punishments true? Will mixing pain, humiliation, and sexual pleasure in punishments make young women behave themselves in real life?

And this one may have been answered in the game but: how would this be implemented to male students?

We should try it, do you think Elon Musk would fund this experiment?

 

[Komahina2]

The game takes place in the UK, we need a British billionaire to do it.

 

[Grordan]

I'm confused. My irony detector does not deliver clear results.

 

[marcomemmey]

The game takes place in the UK, we need a British billionaire to do it.

We could try it somewhere else though, Musk could very well buy a random island in the Pacific and make his own country with its own laws.

Anyway, sorry for the slightly off topic joke. I'll stop here.

 

[Komahina2]

I was joking too, just playing along.

Anyway, right now I've been familiar with this game for a while but haven't been caught up to it and forgot about a few things. Right now I'm finding ways to ship the girls with each other. Here's some (bad) ship names, for ships I like, dislike, and have no opinion on:

Tsundere Tsupreme- Debbie x Lucy or Cassandra x Faye
Bully Love - Any combination of Debbie, Cassandra, and Donna
Co-Assistance - Rachel x Lucy
Goku and Vegeta - April x Charlotte (Goku and Vegeta are the classic pair of rivals who secretly want to have sex with each other. Who's to say April and Charlotte don't?)
Shower Shy - Ada x Rachel
Campus Re-shoot - Ada x Amy, Olivia, or Jasmine
Prank Show - Ada x Louise and/or Mary
Stupid Questions - Alice x April
Extremes - Alice x Rachel
Prefect Love - jasmine x Debbie
Bedroom Gang - Any combination of Liz, Harriet, or Emily
My Turn Now! - Cassandra x Rachel or Nina
Rumorshipping - Emily x Nina
Asians! - Faye x Priti
Innocent and Guilty - Priti x Amy
Healing Pain - Faye x Amy
Uptown Girls - Donna x Lucy
Homage to Poseidon - Amy x Lucy


Among the faculty, I have Mind Matter (Susan Chang x Sally Newman), Role Resume (Headmaster x Ruth), and my personal favorite, Jimmy x drinks.

 

[Vlakom]

Tsundere Tsupreme- Debbie x Lucy or Cassandra x Faye
Bully Love - Any combination of Debbie, Cassandra, and Donna
Co-Assistance - Rachel x Lucy
Goku and Vegeta - April x Charlotte (Goku and Vegeta are the classic pair of rivals who secretly want to have sex with each other. Who's to say April and Charlotte don't?)
Shower Shy - Ada x Rachel
Campus Re-shoot - Ada x Amy, Olivia, or Jasmine
Prank Show - Ada x Louise and/or Mary
Stupid Questions - Alice x April
Extremes - Alice x Rachel
Prefect Love - jasmine x Debbie
Bedroom Gang - Any combination of Liz, Harriet, or Emily
My Turn Now! - Cassandra x Rachel or Nina
Rumorshipping - Emily x Nina
Asians! - Faye x Priti
Innocent and Guilty - Priti x Amy
Healing Pain - Faye x Amy
Uptown Girls - Donna x Lucy
Homage to Poseidon - Amy x Lucy

WTF? First, Faye is of Slavic heritage, the Balkans are not in Asia. Second, are you serious about that Dragon Ball reference? If you are looking for yaoi, I'm afraid you are in the wrong thread pal. Third... Nah, let's just leave it at that. Too many wrongs in here for only one user to revise.

 

[Komahina2]

I'm not looking for yaoi, I'm just stating that Goku and Vegeta are the classic case of rivals that secretly want to have sex with each other, and that April and Charlotte could possibly be the same.

Also I thought Faye was Russian. My Bad.

 

[General Weebus]

Hey, I got the same problem. Did you got it fixed or does somebody else some way to fix it?

Have anyone trouble with Amy ? I've seen her tuesday morning, she spoke of her abs and her porn shoot, I can touch them.
But I didn't get the option to search for porn mag in web search.
A bug maybe ?

 

[marcomemmey]

Hey, I got the same problem. Did you got it fixed or does somebody else some way to fix it?

You might be too early in the story or didn't level up Amy's punishment level.

 

[General Weebus]

You might be too early in the story or didn't level up Amy's punishment level.

Alrighty, thank you!

 

[zerodead]

AltosandHerdone I am redoing the old translation into Portuguese, and I started the translation from scratch, as I use the SDK program to generate the translation, there are some texts that the program does not accept and does not take, so I separated all the texts that do not generate translation

 

[zxsszx]

how 100% save thanks